Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

There is no clear signal from mcconnell on what he thinks ought to be done about the crisis, let alone the strength of this deal thats being worked out without him. How do you read it . I read it as Mitch Mcconnell has no idea what to do. Like none. Zero. Wow. Totally lost. I believe you. Every once in awhile, its as simple as it looks. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, rachel. How much does it cost to get tested for coronavirus . Its the kind of thing you should know if youre an assistant secretary of health and Human Services but not the kind of thing that a trump assistant secretary of health and Human Services would know. A trump appointee. Katy porter demonstrated that today in one of her classic cross examinations. Katy porter exposing the humiliating ignorance of witnesses from the Trump Administration or from Corporate America but this time she accomplished so much more than mere humiliation. He relentless line of questioning forced the Trump Administration to agree on the spot in the hearing to make coronavirus testing free. You will want to see that classic katy porter video at the end of this hour and youll want to hear more from congressman porter when she joins us for tonights last word at the end of the hour. We begin tonight the way we will probably be beginning our dissuggestions fdi discussions with the coronavirus pandemic sweeping the world including the United States where 46 states and washington d. C. Have now reported cases. There are now over 1600 reported cases in the United States with 41 reported deaths. 21 states have declared states of emergency, and it should ever, ever be forgotten that just two weeks ago, two weeks ago, donald trump said this. When you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple of days will be down to close to zero, thats a pretty good job weve done. We would all agree if that were true, that would have been a pretty good job. That would have been a great job. But the most incompetent and uninformed president in history has led the federal government into the worst Emergency Response into a pandemic weve seen. Its one of the worst responses well be told by any government in the world today. More people are sick in america tonight because donald trump is president. More people are dead and dying in america tonight because donald trump is president. More people are losing more of their life savings and retirement accounts today because donald trump is president. As we will discuss later in this hour, the president s tenminute speech from the Oval Office Last night directly provoked more loss of stock market value, which is to say Retirement Funds than any other speech by any other president in history. If donald trump had just said nothing last night, where would we be today . In an interview with joe biden on monday, i asked the former Vice President if Donald Trumps comments were making the situation worse especially with the stock market to which joe biden said to me in his answer among other things, i wish he would just be quiet. Disneyland would probably be Still Closing if donald trump had remained quiet. The National Hockey league would probably still be cancelling the rest of its season. The National Basketball association would probably still be suspending its season. Major League Baseball would probably still be suspending spring training games and delaying the start of the regular season by at least two weeks. The ncaa would be cancelling its basketball tournament and broadway theaters would probably still be shutting down for at least a few weeks after the governor of new york ordered an end to all gatherings of more than 500 people. All of that might still be happening in this country as precautionary measures, even if we had a competent president but because donald trump kept lying relentlessly to america about what would happen and people who work for donald trump who knew better were afraid of saying things publicly that might get them fired, the federal governments Action Response to this crisis is nothing like what weve seen in countries that handled this pandemic the best. After joe biden said he wished donald trump would just be quiet and stay quiet, he said just let the experts speak. Dr. An nothony fauchi is one of those experts and spoke today to a House Committee and the reason he was testifying in the house today instead of the senate is because the senate is run by republicans, the same republicans presented with legal and constitutional reasons to remove donald trump as president said no and voted to keep him as our president. Senate republicans voted to keep him as our protector in chief in a Public Health crisis at a time when coronavirus was already quietly spreading across oceans on its way to this country, on its way to becoming the pandemic were living with tonight and trying to survive despite Donald Trumps incompetence and ignorance. The coronavirus was coming at us. While that impeachment trial was going on. And while those republicans were saying yes, despite those offenses against his oath of office, despite those offenses against the constitution, well keep donald trump in this position and now the lives of those republican senators are actually threatened by Donald Trumps incompetence after a Senate Staffer tested positive for coronavirus yesterday. And while senator Lindsey Graham now awaits the results of his own coronavirus test. Senator Lindsey Graham fought with every fiber of his being to remove bill clinton from the presidency in an impeachment trial and did exactly the opposite for donald trump and tonight Lindsey Graham is selfquarantining as he awaits the results of his coronavirus test because of something he did this weekend in the company of the most dangerous president in history. Now i stopped shaking hands early last week, and i dont have the Information Available to the president and senator graham but senator graham isnt sure whether he shook hands with weekend, this past weekend with a brazilian Government Official who has now tested positive for coronavirus. There are all together over the weekend in florida, the president , senator graham and the brazilian official and in that bubble of blissful ignorance that always surrounds donald trump, theyre not quite sure if they kept enough social distance. Here is what the expert who joe biden wants to hear from and america wants to hear from, dr. Anthony fauchi said today about americas capacity for testing for coronavirus, a test that has now been made available to senator Lindsey Graham. The system does not is not really geared to what we need right now. What you are asking for. That is a failing. A failing . Yes . It is a failing, lets admit it. The way the system was set up is that the Public Health component that dor. Redfield was talking about, a physician asks for it and you get it. The idea of anybody getting it easily the way people in other counsel tris are doing it, were not set up for that. Do i think we should be . Yes. Were not. Leading off our discussion is ron clain, he served as the socalled ebola zar during the obama presidency. He is an advisory of joe bidens 2020 president ial campaign. Dr. Jarr is the director of harvards Global Health institute and dr. Sherry fink is a correspondent for the New York Times and executive producer of pandemic which you must see and an author for her reporting for Hurricane Katrina and the ebola crisis. How did it come to this we were not mobilized fast enough to be ready for the testing that we would need to be doing at this point . Well, lawrence, i think its failure stacked on failure stacked on failure. First of all, the cdc made bad decisions how to employ testing of the United States and got into a turf battled with fda and white house didnt take charge, didnt make the decisions, didnt force it. The president was distracted. He put no one in charge and put secretary aczar in charge and Vice President pence in charge. Its a failure of execution and leadership and focus. Ill tell you from coordinating a response, it is very hard to get the government bureaucracy to act quickly and effectively even with the president putting his foot on the accelerator and demanding action when President Trump put his foot on the brake and said no one bring me bad news, no one tell me the truth, dont let the scientists speak, that took a thing that was already going to be hard and made it impossible. Dr. Jarr, what are we seeing around the world and how does the american response compare to the best versions of response that weve seen from other governments . You know, so our response is among the very worst in the world. Certainly among all the major countries. Every major country has more testing than we do across europe, south korea, japan. Even vietnam and iran until recently have been doing a better job testing than we have. Its really mind boggling how badly we have done on testing and, you know, without testing, its really hard to get a grip on how many people actually have the infection, where the infections are, how wide spread it is and what we can do to respond to it. So i see this as just a catastrophic failure on the part of the federal government and the federal leadership. Sherry fink, how much time did the Trump Administration have to get ready . When did the Early Warning go off for them . I think it was early january when the reports came out of china there was this suspicious cluster of pneumonia cases and the likely culprit was a new coronavirus being the type of virus that has caused mers and sars, those other bad outbreaks in the past. We heard about it in january. We had that sequence of that virus. I think it was january 10th and thats when, you know, around the world there are efforts to make the diagnostics that were talking about. Lets listen to what the president said today about testing. And frankly, the testing has been going very smoothly. If you go to the right agency, if you go to the right area, you get the test. With that being said, as you know, millions are being produced. Ron, apparently was e tatalk about Lindsey Graham, if you go to the right area, you can get the test. First of all its unacceptable only connected people can get tests and its probably not true all the connected people can get tests. I think everyone that works in the field has got their email box filled with people who believe they have been in contact with someone and worried they may have it and symptoms and cannot get tests and lawrence, that just scratches the surface of what needs to be tested. Not just the people raising their hands begging to be tested and lying about that. Its equipping the state and local Health Departments to do surveillance to find where the virus is. Is it in nursing homes, senior centers, vulnerable populations . We need to not only be testing the people demanding to be tested and of course, we should. We need to be testing the people who we should be looking out for and protecting from this vie ru dr. Jarr, if you could ask the cdc or health and Human Services, mike pence, what would you want to know from whom . So i would like an honest answer of when are we going to get tests available to front line doctors and nurses . When are we going to finally be able to figure out how wide spread this disease is . By most assessments ive seen, there are likely many, many thousands of americans who are infected tonight but we cant figure out who they are. We cant identify them. We cant treat them. We cant isolate them and i want an honest answer and every week we hear from the Vice President and from others that millions of tests are being shipped out. But i talked to state Health Officials on an almost daily basis. They dont have the tests. They cant do the tests. Doctors cant do the tests. I want to know when are we finally going to be able to test patients who need the tests. Sherry fink, is there anything in your reporting that indicates geographically what areas of the United States might be more vulnerable than others . I mean, i think the im pompt thing to do, as we heard, there has not been wide spread testing so taking those measures that can protect your health and the health of your family and to help look out for society at this time is really the right way to go because we dont know. We have perhaps better testing in some areas than others. But its, you know, very hard to know. I think initially the government decided it would focus on five cities that had a lot of travelers coming in, those would be the Priority Areas for surveillance but we have the sense the virus is much more wide spread and has established itself in communities around the country. So doing those smart things, washing your hands, not touching your face, not going to work if you have symptoms that are common symptoms that can be symptoms of the flu or symptoms of this new coronavirus. Fever, a cough, those are really smart things that i think people should be thinking about and of course, paying attention to your local context really listening to those local Public Health authorities. Someone said listen to the scientists. Do that. Maybe forget about the sound bytes from the politicians because what matters right now is listening to the experts and they are speaking. Lets listen to what some republican senators had to say today because its quite striking now that they are faced with a matter of life and deaths and possibly their own lives and deaths, they found a way to actually disagree with donald trump when donald trump said everything is going good with testing. L lets listen to this. Were not the best nation in terms of testing. Thats obvious. We couldnt get a good clear answer on when were going to get commercial testing out there, labs that can get faster responses and when were going to allow every person that wants to be tested be able to be tested. Our system is not up to enough and people are frustrated by it. That is after they had a closed door briefing with Administration Officials and lets give mitt romney credit. Hes the only senator that said no, donald trump should not continue in this job at the end of the impeachment trial but here we are on at least a space where they are willing to doubt the president. Yeah, i think look, this has been such a failure of competence by the president but also confidence by the president. His speech last night, which as you said at the outset undermined markets and confidence, didnt address what people are krconcerned about. Didnt have clear answers. The republican senators have to go home this weekend and have to face constituents that cant get tested, who dont know if the virus is in their community and dont know how wide spread it is and dont know what will happen to their jobs and schools and kids. Trumps twitter feed cannot cover them from the reality of what is happening with this virus in this country. Thank youall for starting us off tonight. We really appreciate it. Thanks, lawrence. Thank you. When we come back, we will have more breaking news, House Speaker nancy pelosi and ways and means chairman as rachel told you at the end of her hour say they are close to a legislative deal on a coronavirus legislation. Speaker pelosi has been working with the treasury secretary on this, not the president. One of president obamas former economic advisors will join us next on his thoughts what the federal government should and do right now. T the doderal government should and right now. Needles. Essential for the sea urchin, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. Because there are options. Like an unjection™. Xeljanz xr, a oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. Xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. Xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb; dont start xeljanz if you have an infection. Taking a higher than recommended dose of xeljanz for ra can increase risk of death. Serious, sometimes fatal infections, cancers including lymphoma, and blood clots have happened. As have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, and changes in lab results. Tell your doctor if youve been somewhere fungal infections are common, or if youve had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Needles. Fine for some. But for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. Ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. An unjection™. Adds to the legendary capability of the strongest, most advanced silverados ever. With best in class Camera Technology and larger, more functional beds than any competitor. The only truck that can compare to a silverado is another silverado. Truck month is the right time to get behind the wheel of the chevy silverado. Now, get 0 financing for 72 months plus 500 dollars cash allowance on all silverado 1500 crew cab pickups. Find new roads at your local chevy dealer. I cant believe it. That chad really was raised by wolves . Which one is your mother . Thats her right there. Oh, gosh. No, i cant believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> has no idea what to do. Like none. Zero. Wow. Totally lost. I believe you. Every once in awhile, its as simple as it looks. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, rachel. How much does it cost to get tested for coronavirus . Its the kind of thing you should know if youre an assistant secretary of health and Human Services<\/a> but not the kind of thing that a trump assistant secretary of health and Human Services<\/a> would know. A trump appointee. Katy porter demonstrated that today in one of her classic cross examinations. Katy porter exposing the humiliating ignorance of witnesses from the Trump Administration<\/a> or from Corporate America<\/a> but this time she accomplished so much more than mere humiliation. He relentless line of questioning forced the Trump Administration<\/a> to agree on the spot in the hearing to make coronavirus testing free. You will want to see that classic katy porter video at the end of this hour and youll want to hear more from congressman porter when she joins us for tonights last word at the end of the hour. We begin tonight the way we will probably be beginning our dissuggestions fdi discussions with the coronavirus pandemic sweeping the world including the United States<\/a> where 46 states and washington d. C. Have now reported cases. There are now over 1600 reported cases in the United States<\/a> with 41 reported deaths. 21 states have declared states of emergency, and it should ever, ever be forgotten that just two weeks ago, two weeks ago, donald trump said this. When you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple of days will be down to close to zero, thats a pretty good job weve done. We would all agree if that were true, that would have been a pretty good job. That would have been a great job. But the most incompetent and uninformed president in history has led the federal government into the worst Emergency Response<\/a> into a pandemic weve seen. Its one of the worst responses well be told by any government in the world today. More people are sick in america tonight because donald trump is president. More people are dead and dying in america tonight because donald trump is president. More people are losing more of their life savings and retirement accounts today because donald trump is president. As we will discuss later in this hour, the president s tenminute speech from the Oval Office Last<\/a> night directly provoked more loss of stock market value, which is to say Retirement Funds<\/a> than any other speech by any other president in history. If donald trump had just said nothing last night, where would we be today . In an interview with joe biden on monday, i asked the former Vice President<\/a> if Donald Trumps<\/a> comments were making the situation worse especially with the stock market to which joe biden said to me in his answer among other things, i wish he would just be quiet. Disneyland would probably be Still Closing<\/a> if donald trump had remained quiet. The National Hockey<\/a> league would probably still be cancelling the rest of its season. The National Basketball<\/a> association would probably still be suspending its season. Major League Baseball<\/a> would probably still be suspending spring training games and delaying the start of the regular season by at least two weeks. The ncaa would be cancelling its basketball tournament and broadway theaters would probably still be shutting down for at least a few weeks after the governor of new york ordered an end to all gatherings of more than 500 people. All of that might still be happening in this country as precautionary measures, even if we had a competent president but because donald trump kept lying relentlessly to america about what would happen and people who work for donald trump who knew better were afraid of saying things publicly that might get them fired, the federal governments Action Response<\/a> to this crisis is nothing like what weve seen in countries that handled this pandemic the best. After joe biden said he wished donald trump would just be quiet and stay quiet, he said just let the experts speak. Dr. An nothony fauchi is one of those experts and spoke today to a House Committee<\/a> and the reason he was testifying in the house today instead of the senate is because the senate is run by republicans, the same republicans presented with legal and constitutional reasons to remove donald trump as president said no and voted to keep him as our president. Senate republicans voted to keep him as our protector in chief in a Public Health<\/a> crisis at a time when coronavirus was already quietly spreading across oceans on its way to this country, on its way to becoming the pandemic were living with tonight and trying to survive despite Donald Trumps<\/a> incompetence and ignorance. The coronavirus was coming at us. While that impeachment trial was going on. And while those republicans were saying yes, despite those offenses against his oath of office, despite those offenses against the constitution, well keep donald trump in this position and now the lives of those republican senators are actually threatened by Donald Trumps<\/a> incompetence after a Senate Staffer<\/a> tested positive for coronavirus yesterday. And while senator Lindsey Graham<\/a> now awaits the results of his own coronavirus test. Senator Lindsey Graham<\/a> fought with every fiber of his being to remove bill clinton from the presidency in an impeachment trial and did exactly the opposite for donald trump and tonight Lindsey Graham<\/a> is selfquarantining as he awaits the results of his coronavirus test because of something he did this weekend in the company of the most dangerous president in history. Now i stopped shaking hands early last week, and i dont have the Information Available<\/a> to the president and senator graham but senator graham isnt sure whether he shook hands with weekend, this past weekend with a brazilian Government Official<\/a> who has now tested positive for coronavirus. There are all together over the weekend in florida, the president , senator graham and the brazilian official and in that bubble of blissful ignorance that always surrounds donald trump, theyre not quite sure if they kept enough social distance. Here is what the expert who joe biden wants to hear from and america wants to hear from, dr. Anthony fauchi said today about americas capacity for testing for coronavirus, a test that has now been made available to senator Lindsey Graham<\/a>. The system does not is not really geared to what we need right now. What you are asking for. That is a failing. A failing . Yes . It is a failing, lets admit it. The way the system was set up is that the Public Health<\/a> component that dor. Redfield was talking about, a physician asks for it and you get it. The idea of anybody getting it easily the way people in other counsel tris are doing it, were not set up for that. Do i think we should be . Yes. Were not. Leading off our discussion is ron clain, he served as the socalled ebola zar during the obama presidency. He is an advisory of joe bidens 2020 president ial campaign. Dr. Jarr is the director of harvards Global Health<\/a> institute and dr. Sherry fink is a correspondent for the New York Times<\/a> and executive producer of pandemic which you must see and an author for her reporting for Hurricane Katrina<\/a> and the ebola crisis. How did it come to this we were not mobilized fast enough to be ready for the testing that we would need to be doing at this point . Well, lawrence, i think its failure stacked on failure stacked on failure. First of all, the cdc made bad decisions how to employ testing of the United States<\/a> and got into a turf battled with fda and white house didnt take charge, didnt make the decisions, didnt force it. The president was distracted. He put no one in charge and put secretary aczar in charge and Vice President<\/a> pence in charge. Its a failure of execution and leadership and focus. Ill tell you from coordinating a response, it is very hard to get the government bureaucracy to act quickly and effectively even with the president putting his foot on the accelerator and demanding action when President Trump<\/a> put his foot on the brake and said no one bring me bad news, no one tell me the truth, dont let the scientists speak, that took a thing that was already going to be hard and made it impossible. Dr. Jarr, what are we seeing around the world and how does the american response compare to the best versions of response that weve seen from other governments . You know, so our response is among the very worst in the world. Certainly among all the major countries. Every major country has more testing than we do across europe, south korea, japan. Even vietnam and iran until recently have been doing a better job testing than we have. Its really mind boggling how badly we have done on testing and, you know, without testing, its really hard to get a grip on how many people actually have the infection, where the infections are, how wide spread it is and what we can do to respond to it. So i see this as just a catastrophic failure on the part of the federal government and the federal leadership. Sherry fink, how much time did the Trump Administration<\/a> have to get ready . When did the Early Warning<\/a> go off for them . I think it was early january when the reports came out of china there was this suspicious cluster of pneumonia cases and the likely culprit was a new coronavirus being the type of virus that has caused mers and sars, those other bad outbreaks in the past. We heard about it in january. We had that sequence of that virus. I think it was january 10th and thats when, you know, around the world there are efforts to make the diagnostics that were talking about. Lets listen to what the president said today about testing. And frankly, the testing has been going very smoothly. If you go to the right agency, if you go to the right area, you get the test. With that being said, as you know, millions are being produced. Ron, apparently was e tatalk about Lindsey Graham<\/a>, if you go to the right area, you can get the test. First of all its unacceptable only connected people can get tests and its probably not true all the connected people can get tests. I think everyone that works in the field has got their email box filled with people who believe they have been in contact with someone and worried they may have it and symptoms and cannot get tests and lawrence, that just scratches the surface of what needs to be tested. Not just the people raising their hands begging to be tested and lying about that. Its equipping the state and local Health Departments<\/a> to do surveillance to find where the virus is. Is it in nursing homes, senior centers, vulnerable populations . We need to not only be testing the people demanding to be tested and of course, we should. We need to be testing the people who we should be looking out for and protecting from this vie ru dr. Jarr, if you could ask the cdc or health and Human Services<\/a>, mike pence, what would you want to know from whom . So i would like an honest answer of when are we going to get tests available to front line doctors and nurses . When are we going to finally be able to figure out how wide spread this disease is . By most assessments ive seen, there are likely many, many thousands of americans who are infected tonight but we cant figure out who they are. We cant identify them. We cant treat them. We cant isolate them and i want an honest answer and every week we hear from the Vice President<\/a> and from others that millions of tests are being shipped out. But i talked to state Health Officials<\/a> on an almost daily basis. They dont have the tests. They cant do the tests. Doctors cant do the tests. I want to know when are we finally going to be able to test patients who need the tests. Sherry fink, is there anything in your reporting that indicates geographically what areas of the United States<\/a> might be more vulnerable than others . I mean, i think the im pompt thing to do, as we heard, there has not been wide spread testing so taking those measures that can protect your health and the health of your family and to help look out for society at this time is really the right way to go because we dont know. We have perhaps better testing in some areas than others. But its, you know, very hard to know. I think initially the government decided it would focus on five cities that had a lot of travelers coming in, those would be the Priority Areas<\/a> for surveillance but we have the sense the virus is much more wide spread and has established itself in communities around the country. So doing those smart things, washing your hands, not touching your face, not going to work if you have symptoms that are common symptoms that can be symptoms of the flu or symptoms of this new coronavirus. Fever, a cough, those are really smart things that i think people should be thinking about and of course, paying attention to your local context really listening to those local Public Health<\/a> authorities. Someone said listen to the scientists. Do that. Maybe forget about the sound bytes from the politicians because what matters right now is listening to the experts and they are speaking. Lets listen to what some republican senators had to say today because its quite striking now that they are faced with a matter of life and deaths and possibly their own lives and deaths, they found a way to actually disagree with donald trump when donald trump said everything is going good with testing. L lets listen to this. Were not the best nation in terms of testing. Thats obvious. We couldnt get a good clear answer on when were going to get commercial testing out there, labs that can get faster responses and when were going to allow every person that wants to be tested be able to be tested. Our system is not up to enough and people are frustrated by it. That is after they had a closed door briefing with Administration Officials<\/a> and lets give mitt romney credit. Hes the only senator that said no, donald trump should not continue in this job at the end of the impeachment trial but here we are on at least a space where they are willing to doubt the president. Yeah, i think look, this has been such a failure of competence by the president but also confidence by the president. His speech last night, which as you said at the outset undermined markets and confidence, didnt address what people are krconcerned about. Didnt have clear answers. The republican senators have to go home this weekend and have to face constituents that cant get tested, who dont know if the virus is in their community and dont know how wide spread it is and dont know what will happen to their jobs and schools and kids. Trumps twitter feed cannot cover them from the reality of what is happening with this virus in this country. Thank youall for starting us off tonight. We really appreciate it. Thanks, lawrence. Thank you. When we come back, we will have more breaking news, House Speaker<\/a> nancy pelosi and ways and means chairman as rachel told you at the end of her hour say they are close to a legislative deal on a coronavirus legislation. Speaker pelosi has been working with the treasury secretary on this, not the president. One of president obamas former economic advisors will join us next on his thoughts what the federal government should and do right now. T the doderal government should and right now. Needles. Essential for the sea urchin, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. Because there are options. Like an unjection\u2122. Xeljanz xr, a oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. Xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. Xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb; dont start xeljanz if you have an infection. Taking a higher than recommended dose of xeljanz for ra can increase risk of death. Serious, sometimes fatal infections, cancers including lymphoma, and blood clots have happened. As have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, and changes in lab results. Tell your doctor if youve been somewhere fungal infections are common, or if youve had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Needles. Fine for some. But for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. Ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. An unjection\u2122. 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This is of course, one way of looking at it. The other way of looking at it is donald trump humiliates himself when he opens his mouth as he did last night. While donald trump was addressing the nation last night for ten minutes from the oval office, stock market future trading started to drop dramatically. And then when the market opened today, it proceeded to crash by the largest amount since 1987 losing almost 10 of its value today. Harvard economics professor and treasury secretary Lawrence Summers<\/a> tweeted potus sets what i believe is a new world record for president ial market val value destruction. Joining me is the former chairman, professor of the practice of Economic Policy<\/a> at harvards academic school. Thank you for joining us, propossepr profess professor. What would you suggest the Government Action<\/a> that could be taken now, what action could be taken do deal with the economic effects of this crisis . Lawrence, this is the most serious economic crisis this country may have faced since the great depression, bigger than what we faced in 2008. 2008 was terrible. It was devastating. But most people kept their jobs. Many people kept spending. Right now everyone is cutting their spending. Large swaths of the economy, peoples jobs are at risk and so once you start to think about that, the answer to your question of what we should do, the more we can do, the better. So, you know, my next question was going to be is this 1987 or is this 1929, which youve already answered that its closer to that. Maybe about six months ago, i reread johns book the great crash about the 1929 stock market crash and when you read the things people were saying as it was already underway, as the crash was happening, there are so many people who sounded like donald trump then saying it will bounce back as the president said today. The stock market will bounce back. Dont worry about it. Larry cud lkudlow said invest w its going down. Youll be happy. Its dropped so much since he said that. To set this from the audience perspective, you are comparing this now to the 1929 crash of the stock market . Absolutely. And, you know, the difference is it depends on what happens. If, you know, we get through this virus in the next two months, then, you know, maybe it bou bounces right back. If it takes us nine months, even at that point if we find a cure for the vaccine, a huge amount of damage will be done to companies, to workers, to unemployment of a type that would persist and, you know, could take a long time to recover from. So i you know, id love to have more reassuring things to say for you, lawrence, but i am worried right now. Youre confirming what ive been feeling in miay armature w. This is an enormous policy challenge because when you talk about payroll tax cut which the president mentioned a few days ago and died instantly when the Senate Finance<\/a> Committee Chairman<\/a> said he wouldnt consider it, that would come back. A payroll tax cut to a person no longer on a payroll doesnt work the way it might in the stimulative way you may have wanted it to while that person was still on a payroll. Yeah, thats absolutely right. What i think we should do is number one, everything we can do on health, free testing, which is in the house legislation, i think thats terrific. Were going to need a lot of hospital beds, a lot of ven ventilators, we need that fast. Number two, everything we can do to the people that need it. Paid leave. Unemployment insurance, assistance for states with Medicaid Programs<\/a> and nutritional assistance. Once youve done one and two, thats still not large enough. There are tens of millions of families you havent reached. Number three, i would send checks, cash, you get it whether youre working or not. A week ago i proposed 1,000 for an adult, 500 for a child. I would double it based on the events of the last week. This is a moment from a policy perspective, quite literally the last thing you can worry about is the deficit and debt but unfortunately, were at a high point in deficit and deb debt. It the last thing you want to worry about. The Interest Rate<\/a> adjusted for inflation now is negative. That means you can give somebody 1,000 today, the government can borrow that money and a decade from now you only need to repay 900 adjusted for inflation. So thats one thing. The second thing is lets say you really were concerned about the debt. You care about the debt relative to the economy. If the economy craters, the debt is actually larger relative to the economy. Right now, we cant afford from a fiscal perspective or Economic Perspective<\/a> not to do something, you know, as big as we possibly can. Professor jason firman, thank you for joining us. Im not sure how i feel about you agreeing with partially and partially supporting my worst fears about where we are economically. I wish you could have contradicted what i was suspecting but thank you very much for joining us and were going to need you on a daily basis. We appreciate your time. Happy to be back. When we come back, Donald Trumps<\/a> Oval Office Address<\/a> last night was full of wrong information and of course, caused panic for americans overseas trying to get back into this country when they suddenly felt they were being banned reentering their own country by this president. The head of the association of Flight Attendant<\/a>s calls the president s announcement irresponsible and said its sewing confusion and sarah nelson, one of the most eloquent labor leaders in america will join us next. Eloquent labor leaders inme arica will join us next sleep this amazing . Thats a zzzquil pure zzzs sleep. 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Thats why he said oh, it was made very clear last night. It was not made very clear last night. Here is exactly what the president read on his teleprompter last night and according to what you will hear him say, travel from ireland would be banned. We will be suspending all travel from europe to the United States<\/a> for the next 30 days. The new rules will go into effect friday at midnight. These restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground. There will be exceptions for americans who have undergone appropriate screenings and these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo but various other things as we get approval. Anything coming from europe to the United States<\/a> is what we are discussing. These restrictions will also not apply to the united kingdom. Trade and cargo . The white house later put out a correction saying that the ban would not apply to ireland and that it would not apply to cargo from any country. As the president s tell promepr said it would. The Prime Minister<\/a> of ireland was not satisfied with Donald Trumps<\/a> failure in the room today to clarify the situation with ireland in response to that report. So the Prime Minister<\/a> jumped in and said this. Just saying the president has excluded ireland from the travel ban. The president has excluded ireland from the travel ban as announced, of course, not be the president but by the Prime Minister<\/a> of ireland. At least one of the people in that room today knows how to speak clear and accurate english. Joining us now is sarah nelson who is president of the association of Flight Attendant<\/a>s and has been a Flight Attendant<\/a> for 24 years. Sarah, what does this travel ban, im not even sure what to call it now because im not sure how many exceptions there are to it or how it works. The president s announcement last night, what does this mean to the Airline Industry<\/a> generally and more broadly . Last night this created total chaos, lawrence. We had flights that were waiting to take off for europe and i got reports that passengers were getting updates from the president s speech saying that all travel was going to be ended for 30 days. The passengers started a, the crew thought they wouldnt be able to get back home to their families. It was pandemonium in the airports because there was no coordination with the airlines on the front end and later, we get different information that the airplanes can still fly but there will be all kinds of restrictions. Those restrictions also have an impact on the travel. The inconsistency in the way that the information is delivered leads to more panic on the ground and a reaction from travelers and people who are making Business Plans<\/a> and cancelling those plans. And so this is having a Ripple Effect<\/a> where we are not able to actually test, treat and isolate the virus, stop the spread and really get at that as americans. This is having a Ripple Effect<\/a> on our jobs on our experience at work and our entire industry and ultimately, for the entire economy. Lets listen to what the ceo of jetblue had to say about this. In the u. S. Industry, we saw about a 30 drop off in traffic around 9 11. This is probably even worse than that. Worse than 9 11 . What were seeing in terms of demand. Sarah, how can that be possible that this could be worse than 9 11 . Well, because there is not clear leadership. We know what its like when there is a loud bang on the plane or a noise thats unexpected or a jerking of the plane, passengers look to us. And we know that we have to provide calm, steady leadership and show them that its okay, explain what is going on explain the sounds and what were going to do about it. When you do that, people calm down and follow your lead and you can actually put forward a plan that works to keep people safe. That is not what is happened here. There has been no leadership. There is been no coordination. There has been no marshalling of resources listening to the experts and bringing the stake holders to the table and coordinate and again, identify where this exists, where the virus exists, treat it, isolate it and eradicate it as a threat to lives and our economy. This is what we need to have happen. Sarah, when you joined us last week, what would you tell the people who have to fly, were down to the point its essential flying. People are stopping optional flying, vacation flying. What has changed in the week since we talked about this for the flying public to consider . The problem here, lawrence, is that now were talking about a state of emergency in many states and we have the virus in the communities and so its not just necessarily what were doing on the planes and i should note this, you know, preparation matters. Having a plan matters. We are trained as Flight Attendant<\/a>s every single year in how to respond to commune disease and how to respond when we encounter symptoms with passengers and how to keep passengers around them safe and i should note just today for the first time we had a crew member test positive when crews, u. S. Crews have been dealing with this for two months and just today because we were able to take strict action with our airlines to have preparation to have the resources that we need to respond, we were able to keep our work space relatively safe and that of the passengers in our care but now, in just a weeks time, because we have not tested, because we have not been able to isolate, because we have not been able to treat where the virus exists, now we have the virus in the communities and so its not just a matter of getting on an airplane and whether or not youre going to be safe on an airplane, people are taking into consideration whether they should even be congregating together in our communicates in numbers greater than 100 or 500 whatever it may be in those states. Thats where we are in a weeks time because this is not handled in the way it should be. Sarah nelson, your experience and insights have been invaluable to us on this. We will want to hear from you again. Thank you for joining us. Appreciate it. Thank you, lawrence and travelers that are traveling, check flying with sarah. Yes, thats your twitter handle. I follow it. I learn a lot from it. Say it one more time because people really do want to get the latest information. Follow flying with sara, no h on sarah. When we come back, katy porters brilliant questioning on a House Committee<\/a> today reached a new high even for her because she did something weve never seen before. She forced a reluctant trump appointee to change trump policy on the spot under pressure from her questioning and decide to do the right thing for once. And katy porter did Something Else<\/a> we havent seen her do in a congressional hearing. She saved lives. Thats next. E saved lives. Thats next. Managing type 2 diabetes . Dimitris on it. Eating right. And getting those steps in . 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For someone without insurance, do you know the outofpocket cost of a complete blood count test . No, maam, not immediately. Do you have a ballpark . Out of with a copay, maam . No, the outofpocket, just the typical cost . I do not. Youve seen this movie before but this is the most important version of it yet. I first showed you this movie the first time i saw katie porter ask questions in a house hearing last year when she was a freshman congresswoman, first year in congress. Katie porter became an instant star last year in her first year in the house of remember siepre by asking the questions no one else was asking in a way no one else would ask them. Today she was questioning the conservative republicans donald trump has appointed to jobs in which our lives now depend, depend on how well they can do those jobs and what decisions they make. You just heard her asking a trump appointed assistant secretary of health and Human Services<\/a> if he knows how much it costs to get tested for coronavirus. He didnt. Katie porter added it up item by item and it came to 1,331. That was her consecutive estimate and then she turned to the conservative republican appointee who runs the centers for Disease Control<\/a> for donald trump and asked him to use the authority that is vested in him by law to instantly make testing free for everyone. You dont need legislation for this. This particular office is empowered to do it, to order it, to make it happen. This is one of those extraordinary powers that the law grants to the head of the cdc and when katie porter first mentioned that law to robert red field, the head of the cdc, he didnt know what she was talking about. She told staff last night that she was going to ask him about this specific law and he still didnt know what she was talking about and after explaining the law to him, katie porter zeroed in on his authority to make testing free right now for every american. Dr. Redfield will you commit to the cdc now using that kis g existing authority to pay for diagnostic testing to pay for it regardless of insurance. Well make sure not enough. Doctor, you have the existing authority, will you commit right now to using the authority that you have vested in you under law that provides in a Public Health<\/a> emergency for testing, treatment, exam, isolation without cost, yes or no . What im going to say is im going to review it in detail with cdc no. Dr. Redfield i wrote you this letter with my colleagues, congressman underwood and delora, we wrote you this letter one week ago. We quoted that existing authority to you and we laid out this problem. We asked for a response yesterday. The deadline and the time for delay has passed. Will you commit to invoking your existing authority under 42 cfr 71. 30 to provide for coronavirus testing for every american regardless of Insurance Coverage<\/a> . What i was trying to say is that cdc is working with hhs now to see how we operationize that. Dr. Redfield i hope that answer weighs heavily on you because it will weigh heavily on me and on every american family. Our intent is to make sure every american gets the care and treatment they need at this time of this major epidemic and im currently working with hhs hhs see how to best operationalize it. Dr. Redfield, you dont need to do any work to operationalize. You need to make a commitment to the American People<\/a> so they come in to get tested. You can operationalize the payment structure tomorrow. I think youre an excellent questioner, so my answer is yes. Excellent. Everybody in america, hear that. You are eligible to go get tested for coronavirus and have that covered regardless of insurance. Please, if you believe you have the illness, follow precautions. Call first. Do everything the cdc and dr. Fauci, god bless you for guiding americans in this time. But do not let a lack of insurance worsen this crisis. And with that, katie porter saved lives today. Never seen anything like it. The honorable katie porter will join us next. Liberty biberty cut. Well dub it. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance<\/a> so you only pay for what you need. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Were finally back out in our yard, but so are they. Dandelions, lurking crabgrass and weak, thin grass. But scotts turf builder triple action changes everything. It kills weeds, prevents crabgrass for up to four months and feeds so grass can thrive, all guaranteed, only from scotts. Our backyard is back. This is a scotts yard. 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Xfinity xfi can because its. Simple, easy, awesome. [ barking ] the fear of these costs are going to keep people from being tested. We live in a world where 40 of americans cannot even afford a 400 unexpected expense. We live in a world where 33 of americans put off medical treatment last year. And we have a 1,331 expense conservatively just for testing for the coronavirus. Dr. Readfield, do you want to know who has the coronavirus and who doesnt . Yes. Not just rich people but everybody who might have the virus . All of america. Joining our discussion now is democratic congresswoman katie porter of california. Shes a member of the House Oversight<\/a> and reform committee, where she conducted that questioning today. Congresswoman porter, thank you very much for joining us tonight, and ill never forget the first time i saw you question anyone in a house hearing, and i wanted to get you on this program right away at that time because it was the kind of questioning ive always dreamed about seeing. And i started to wonder then, the washington lobbyists are going to have a lot of trouble trying to anticipate katie porter questions in hearings. But this time, this time you actually told them ahead of time what you wanted to ask about, and it still seemed as though they werent ready. No. Ive never tipped my hand like that before, but we wanted to get an answer, and so we gave the cdc every opportunity to think this through. My colleagues and i, rosa delauro and Lauren Underwood<\/a> sent a letter a week ago. We gave a deadline of yesterday. And then last night, working with the staff on the oversight committee, my staff and i let the cdc know that we wanted an answer to this question. Having given both the question and the answer in advance, something i certainly never did as a professor, it was stunning see someone to still struggle. Ill just say from my own experience in Senate Hearings<\/a> when i was working there, its often the case that you actually tell them, especially if its the administration, you tell them ahead of time what you want to ask about because youre really hoping to get an answer. Usually when you do that, you do get something thats clearly responsive because they knew this was the big question that was coming. So its a stunning thing to watch. But how do you make sure that theyre really going to deliver on this . We think you have to be prepared for exactly what we had happen here, which is an effort to delay, to dither, to obfuscate with words, and the stakes really here are life and death. And so he should have come prepared to give a clear answer. If he wasnt willing to use the existing law to save lives, then he should have had an alternate plan. And still what we heard was a bunch of mumbo jumbo about operationalize and intent and continuing conversations. We need testing for every american who is symptomatic of coronavirus without regard to insurance, and we frankly needed it several weeks ago. So im very glad that i was able to put the cdc director, get that answer out of him, hold his feet to the fire, and ill tell you i intend to continue doing that and hold him to that promise that he made today because it wasnt a promise to me. It was a promise to the meamerin people. Yes, and after you made it very clear, and said, okay, everybody, listen to what i just heard him say, you then got him to say it himself. And so youve got him right there on the record in that testimony saying, yes, were going to do this. Now, there is some information tonight about the package nancy pelosi is negotiating with the administration that indicates this might actually get free testing might get written into law over and above where its already, as youve pointed out, written into law for the cdc. So it might do you have any awareness of whether it will be in the legislative package released tomorrow . Were told that its likely to be in the package. We spent all day today, you know, waiting to hear and hoping to vote on that package. But i think its really important for americans to understand that the job here was done. A prior administration, the Obama Administration<\/a> finalized this regulation contemplating, learning from past Public Health<\/a> emergencies. So while its great that the house is going to take action and a package has more in it than just free testing. It has other supports to help people. But the reality is we could have been promising people free testing regardless of insurance status long ago, using the existing law if only the people, the officials in charge of enforcing the law did their jobs. The honorable katie porter gets tonights last word. Thank you very much for joining us again tonight. Thank you. The 11th hour with Brian Williams<\/a> starts now. Tonight, a nation unsettled over drastic measures and financial fallout amid a crisis of leadership and a lack of faith in the ability of anyone to reverse its course. The worst day at the markets since 1987. A crushing blow to americans Retirement Savings<\/a> while questions linger over the lag in testing. Plus a member of canadas first family tests positive for the virus. Disneyland will shut its doors for the first time in two decades. The College Basketball<\/a> tradition of march madness called off. Major League Baseball<\/a> and the nhl postponing their seasons. 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