Now this perhaps once inevitable nominee looking more and more damaged. Cruz leading by ten. Count that up, obviously a reversal of 20 points total for trump over the month. Should trump lose the 42 delegates in the wisconsin primary, it would be his first real big set back since the secondplace showing in the iowa caucus in february and come after what has been by all accounts a rough week. Thats included charges filed against his Campaign Manager, cor corey for assaulting a woman, abortions, and today trump looking to close the polling gap. Three big events in wisconsin. Cruz has a stop in wisconsin later this evening. First, looking ahead, he was at the north dakota gop convention, where there are unbound delegates up for grabs. Kasich has a town hall scheduled to begin momentarily. One of three stops in wisconsin. And dont forget about the democrats. There is a tight race in the state. And the most recent poll, sanders edging Hillary Clinton out 4843 and she will be attending a get out the vote event this afternoon. Both she and sanders also headed to a democratic founders day dinner in milwaukee. We have all the candidates covered for you. Obviously, on what is another big politics day. And first we go right to nbcs Kerry Sanders with donald trump in wisconsin. Talk to us about what youre seeing on the ground and how this big story over abortion is playing out. Reporter well, lets take a look, first of all, at the sturnout. You can see folks lining up really before the sun came up. There is a long line all the way down here. But among the questions that you point out is how the abortion debate is playing. So were going to give sort of an opportunity for some folks here who are donald trump supporters, or at least interested in hearing donald trump speak. What their thoughts are. First of all, what do you think . He has this shifting stance on abortion. What are your thoughts . I dont mind that, because hes not a politician. So hes allowed to change his mind. Reporter it doesnt drive your vote either way. I voted for him already. I voted already. I did the early voting. Reporter okay. I like everything that he stands for. I believe that we need to build wall. I believe we need to not let these muslim refugees come in until they can be vetted better. We need our nation to be more secure. Reporter okay. Thank you very much. Now you had told me earlier that you do not believe in abortion. Now let me ask you. The question not so much about your position on abortion, but about Donald Trumps shifting positions on abortion. How does that impact your thoughts about him as candidate . I think that they were wishywashy. But i dont believe in abortion. A lot of things that i do not agree with donald trump, and im going to say this. Donald trump, hes going to get us all blowed up with his mass destruction, Nuclear Weapon mouth. Some things he says, he speaks too fast. And then he goes back and changes. He needs to think before he makes a remark. Reporter okay. So i do not agree with a lot of things that he is saying. I just came here to see history made, because hes coming to racine, wisconsin. No, i am not one of his supporters. Im on the lords side. But i dont believe in abortion. Reporter okay. Thank you so much. It will be probably with the crowds i see here probably standingroomonly. Its a pretty small space inside there. There you hear two different points of view. Of course, were not going to know until tuesday to see how this plays out specifically with women voters, i believe. Yeah. And kerry, interesting, because the point of view from someone who feels some allegiance to the idea that abortion should be illegal, which is what donald trump was ultimately trying to get at. But deep concern about the way hes also been talking about his approach to nuclear policy, which was another one of the big moments in that interview with chris matthews. Kerry sanders reporting from wisconsin. Thank you very much. We turn now back to political analyst, elise jordan, former aide to senator rand paul. I want to read something brandnew. Its just in the New York Times right now. You basically have Newt Gingrich saying, look, none of the mistakes by trump have been forced. Nobody forced him to react negatively. Its almost as though he is so full of himself he cant slow down and recognize that being president is a team sport that requires a stable personality. That allows other people to help him. I think Newt Gingrich, who has been positive about trump, says he has a real possibility of having surged amazingly to miss the golden ring. I think newt is right. I think that really this week did a lot of lasting damage to trump. And the zombie theory theyre talking about in this article, i think there is some truth to that. Even if trump gets the nomination, there is no way he can be successful in the general election. You think thats established. I think thats established. I just think there is no way that your unfavorables can be so high with literally three quarters of american women not going to vote for you, strongly disliking you. And beat Hillary Clinton. Theres no way. Did you already feel that way months ago when you were advising senator paul or are you more concerned as a republican now than you were . Oh, i mean, ive been concerned about trump since he entered the race. His announcement speech where hes calling mexicans rapists and all of these horrible generations about so many people who are so important to the fabric of our country. So no, i mean, my concern for trump isnt new. This last week, i think that the damage has really been solidified by donald trump being the narrative is that hes a miss original ma some inconsistent and thats not going away. You can see out of a distaste for him, or out of something that he seems to do a lot. Normalize the abnormal. Right . So if i would have told anyone six months ago that there would be three republicans left in the race, and all three of them would be refusing to commit to support the nominee, that would be a surprise and a concern. Because parties exist to advance the party nominee. Here is donald trump on that, speaking to fox news chris wallace. Are you ruling out running as a independent Third Party Candidate . Look its simple. No, its not that simple. Im by far the front runner as a republican. I want to run as a republican. I will beat Hillary Clinton. But if you dont get the nomination. Were going to have to see how i was treated. Im going to have to see how i was treated. Very simple. Now, youve got to be fair to donald trump. That is now essentially the position of cruz and kasich. Well, trump, though, is delusional in thinking he could run as a Third Party Candidate. Theres no way he could organize and get on the ballots. He wouldnt be able to get on the ballot in texas, probably. Because of the timing. Because of the timing and ballot access. And he just he is not proven that he has a Campaign Apparatus that has basic organization. And that is why what i think going into a contested convention, if that is what were going into, where trump will really struggle is because cruz has one of the best campaigns this country has seen in quite a while. Its really a topnotch organization. And the way that theyre using an littics is just really almost mindblowing within what we have seen traditional campaigns do. You know from working on something that isnt often seen in public. The Trump Campaign is one we know, refuses to spend any money on polling whatsoever, which is a risk. And the Cruz Campaign has spent over 6 million. Not only on polling, but as you say, on basically digital analytics, trying to figure out exactly who the supporters are. Its such a picture of contrast. Elise jordan, thank you very much for being here. Next, what happens when your Campaign Manager is accused of battery. There it is. This is where i met your grandpa. Right under this tree. man some things are Worth Holding onto. Theyre hugging the tree. man thats why we got a subaru. Or was it that tree . man the twentysixteen subaru outback. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. How do you think imen got a girl like this . If you strip, romance will follow. Crest whitestrips remove years of stains. Try whitestrips and see what. Stripping can do for you. Dont let dust and allergies get and lifes beautiful moments. With flonase allergy relief, they wont. 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Many have been calling on trump to discipline or fire his aide. But the candidate is standing by him, and insisting the entire incident is overblown. Trumps also given the term public defender new meaning by ad libbing a range of defenses for lewandowski. But we want to ask in this segment with some real experts are those defenses helping or hurting his top aides legal case . Is i want to bring in my guests, kenneth padwits and jasmine rand for rand law. Lets start with what donald trump has been saying, namely, well, this reporter might have been a threat, and thus corey is innocent. Right. I mean, i think its very clear from the Video Evidence she wasnt a threat. The real threat was trumps Campaign Manager. What is most problematic is that trump seems to be condoning violence against women by supporting his manager. And this isnt the first time we have seen an act of violence at a trump rally. Absolutely. Let me play what donald trump said in fairness, but also to get more analysis of it. Here he is talking about what she might have been holding and why that would be a threat. Are you going to sure. I dont know. Maybe i should. Right . Because, you know what . She was she was grabbing me. And just so you understand, she was off base. Because she went through the secret service. She had a pen in her hand, which secret service is not liking because they dont know what it is. Whether its a little bomb. Kenneth, is that claim an argument that a Florida Defense attorney would be likely to make on lewandowskis behalf . Thats a legal term for that defense and thats called silly and absurd. I mean, come on. Lets be real here. From a guy who says that hes for real when he talks to the american people. Thats not a valid legal defense. What we have to look at here is there say violation of criminal law by an intentional touching without consent. You dont even need an injury. And clearly, theres sufficient evidence in this case, more than ive seen in practically 30 years of prosecuting a defending cases in a Battery Charge in this case. Theres clearly why is it so much more evidence . You have worked as a prosecutor and defense attorney in florida. Youre saying its more evidence because usually a case like this wouldnt have so many video angles . Exactly. You have tremendous Video Evidence. You have a woman on audio, the victim, saying ouch. That was a lot of pressure. That was a lot of force. Immediately after. You have broken blood vessels d under the skin. You have a bruise and you dont need an injury. Here you have an injury. So its a very, very strong amount of evidence for a Battery Charge. That doesnt mean that if the prosecutor decides to go forward with this before the arraignment in one month, that there is going to be a conviction. There may very well not be a conviction in this case. Sure. It can go a lot of ways. Jasmine, what are we to make, though, of donald trump . Because is he trying to help himself in talking about something that affects his campaign . Is he trying to help lewandowski, if according to the analysis im hearing here, the arguments that trump made this week are not helpful to lewandowski. I mean, i think that this all very intentional strategy on behalf of the trump camp. And what were seeing is that theyre insighting and promoting violence in rallies. What should be most concerning to the american public, how is he going to behave when he has the ultimate bully pulpit, the american presidency. Do we want a man in charge of our country who behaves in this manner . Do we want him to make decisions about war and our Nuclear Capacity . And kenneth, on the legal path, if you were advising a client in this situation, and say there was touching shown on video, but some wider debate over what it meant. How would you advise that defendant to resolve this case . Well, one of the easy ways is to attempt to first convince the prosecutor not to take the Police Arrest and actually go forward with charges. Typically, a notice to appear, which is an arrest, done in this case, can be an information. Like a charging document like an indictment, can be filed by the prosecutor. So if i was a defense attorney, i would be trying to convince the prosecutor not to charge the defendant based on a wide range of defenses. Stand your ground is a possible defense and affirmative defense of defense of others, defending his boss, donald trump. So theres a number of defenses and a possibility here that there may be reasonable doubt and a jury would never convict him. Another opportunity is also to put him in a program. To put him in an anger management program. And have the state drop the charges. Well, and i think the defense argument you would usually see was actually more difficult in this environment where you have paid professional Government Security in the secret service who are officially tasked with defending the candidate. And a credentialed environment where basically people have to be screened to get to where they are. I think that makes it harder to argue that the Campaign Manager was the only person who had to step up and play a role of physical defense. Thats a fact pattern that could be debated but another piece to it. Interesting, and ive got to say covering law and politics, an unusual case. My thanks to kenneth pad owe wits. Stay right there. North dakota up next. 28 unbound republican delegates up for grabs. They matter big time, could help stop donald trump. Thats next. If you have moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis isnt it time to let the real you shine through . Introducing otezla, apremilast. Otezla is not an injection, or a cream. 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But it matters a whole lot if, as you certainly heard by now, there may be an open convention. Ted cruz knows it. Hes making a special detour to fargo, north dakota, today, to make a special appeal for those unbound delegates at the state republican convention. And now we go right to the source in fargo. We have Republican State Assembly majority leader, al carson and Democratic State senator and radio host, joel hidecamp. Good day to both of you. Al, whats different this year . Repeat that again, please. I said, al, whats different this year at that state convention . Well, the state convention is exciting because we have a contested governors race, which we havent had for 12 years that. Is taking front and center. Of course everybody is chatting about who is going to be the president ial nominee. Is ted cruz smart to be there and make a specific appeal .