Jake reese, day to feel alive good morning, im joy reid at msnbc World Headquarters in new york. Todays headline in president ial politics comes courtesy of a new poll released just this morning. It shows in the democratic and republican races, the candidates polling highest in terms of popularity are not the candidates who are on top. Senator Bernie Sanders and Governor John Kasich are the only two president ial candidates with net positive ratings among register voters. Though no one in the poll manages to get to 50 . Senator sanders is rated at 45 positive to tlish negative. Compare that to frontrunner Hillary Clinton who has a 56 negative rating and just 32 positive. Clinton does fare better than donald trump, however. Heats gets a thumbs down from 65 of those polled. Senator ted cruz has rated negatively by 49 of registered voters while kasich is bobbing just above the waves at 31 up, 19 down, which also gives you an idea of how little known kasich still is. Vox. Com tracked which candidates have gotten the most negative and positive coverage. The new poll numbers come two days before the pivotal tuesday primary in the empire state where Hillary Clinton is leading Bernie Sanders 57 to 47 . Most dems are making the most of the time they have with new york voters. Bernie sanders will be rocking out with grizzly bear at a 4 00 p. M. Rally. Hillary clinton will be getting out the vote later this evening at a rally on long island. Meanwhile, in the republican race, the delegate fight is heating up. Yesterday, donald trump continued his attacks on the gop delegate selection rules. Making a play for new yorks 95 republican delegates with a Campaign Stop in Staten Island just over an hour from now. And hell wrap up his day later this afternoon with a rally in poughkeepsie. New york gop polls are forecasting a big win for trump here on tuesday. With the latest polls giving him a whopping 29point lead over his closest competitor, the aforementioned john kasich. This weekends big gop victory really does belong to ted cruz. The texas senator won in wyoming after collecting all 14 available delegates at the states Gop Convention yesterday. Hell add those delegates to the nine he had already swept up in wyomings county conventions to give him a grand total of 23. Nbcs Hallie Jackson has been there following all the convention this weekend and she joins me from casper, wyoming. Coming off that big delegate sweep in colorado for ted cruz, does the wyoming result sort of validate his strategy, and did trump actually even bother to compete in wyoming . Yes, lets take the first part of the question. This was not a surprising victory for ted cruz. The sense in the room at the state convention here over the weekend was that it was cruzs to lose, basically. There was a real indication he was going to sweep the 14 atlarge delegates and ultimately, he did. Does it validate his strategy . Its a sign of the campaign that theyre moving in the right direction. You saw cruz himself react to this, saying this is how elections are won in america. Thoughts what he said in a statement in an apparent shot at donald trump and the complaints you have been talking about from trump against the system which he calls rigged or corrupt. As for donald trump, did he compete here . Not particularly. You talk tofolks out and about. Trump picked up one delegate at the county conventions that will end up in cleveland, but this is cruz territory. I spoke with senator barrasso who said hey, we in our state want to support whoever the best nominee is to beat Hillary Clinton in the fall. He also talked about how the rules are the rules, pointing out hes been doing these kinds of conventions since the 80s in wyomi wyoming. This is how the process works in this state. Ted cruz was able to manage that and work that. He was the only candidate to come out and speak to the convention, and it looks like that paid off for him. Hallie jackson, casper, wyoming. Stay warm. Thank you. Yesterday at an event in syracuse, donald trump continued to rail against the gops delegate selection process. The system is rigged. Its a bad system. Its a dirty system. And were going to do something about it, and maybe that will take place the next time around, meaning in four years. But the system is a bad, bad system. And they gotta do something about it. The Republican National committee, they better get going. Because ill tell you what, youre going to have a rough july at that convention. Nbc News Campaign embed ali vitali has been covering the trump campaign. Shes in Staten Island today. We hear these attacks on the campaign rules, veiled threats for chaos at the convention. How is that message playing with the voters in Staten Island . So joy, its really nothing new that trump is railing against the rigged convention system. He doesnt like how hes been doing in delegates. Every weekend seems to bring a new bad headline for him and a good headline for ted cruz as we see him mop up the delegates at the state conventions like the one hallie was talking about. As fars the way the trump voters see this, this does play into their world view to a certain extent. Our poll shows that most people think whoever is winning the most amount of votes should be the nominee eventually, disregarding for the most part the 1237 magic number, and supporters see donald trump as their outsider candidate. Thats why they like him. When they see hes being disenfranchised by the party and he tells them theyre also disenfranchised because theyre not allowed to vote, they believe that and see it as something that is very much playing into the way they see the party going. I talk to people at rallies and ask them what about the process bothers them. They say they have always felt outside of. Trump is making them feel energized to be involved and this is the first time for many of them they feel excited about the political process. The party and the way trump is painting the rnc gives them more of a reason to say this is why i havent been involved to this point and thats why i want this candidate who is going to clean up this process. He even said on fox news the other day, maybe the reason im complaining is because im complaining for the voters. He feels, and the way hes branding it right now, is hes branding it to be on the part of the voter, the voice of the people. Thats exactly what his voters like about him. Thank you very much, ali vitali. I want to bring in my guest, abbey philip, for the washington post, and joining from austin, texas, ovick. Im going to start with you. Republican voters have been pretty definitive, very definitive on what they think should happen if trump does not get the nomination even though hes got the most votes going into the convention. Lets look at a couple of the numbers from the poll. Roppen voters on the process. 62 say the candidates with the most votes should be the nominee. Only 33 say that it should be up to the delegates. And lets go to the next one, which is what do gop voters think should happen if donald trump is denied the nomination . 45 say it would be acceptable for him to run third party as an independent if he didnt get it. Lets just go one more. This is on whether he loses the nomination. 54 say its unacceptable if donald trump has the most delegates but doesnt get the nomination. If your view, can the Republican Party in any way afford to deny donald trump the nomination if he has the most delegates, even if its not 1237 . Well, they have a difficult choice, joy. But i would say the opposite, that they cant afford for trump to be the nominee, because if trump is the nominee, then republicans down ballot in senate and congressional races are going to get crushed. Thats what the polling indication. Theyre basically hosed either way. What republicans should do if trump doesnt win on the first ballt, which looks likely, is if the second ballot goes to cruz, a lot of the voters will stay home. I think the republicans are in a very difficult place. They cant win either way. Its a heads, you win, tails i lose situation. The other thing floated by a lot of the d. C. Press, and im sure you hear it swirling around washington, the idea of parachuting in a savior. Paul ryan said he didnt want to be said savior. We did poll whether that would be acceptable to Republican Voters. 71 said a nominee who hasnt 1 in the primaries is unacceptable to the voters. Does that translate into Republican Voters staying home or would they in the end support the republican because theyre a republican and not Hillary Clinton . I think this is the key unknown here. I dont think anybody really knows what is happening. I think the poll is absolutely right. Republican voters are going to be really shocked to find some random person walking into a convention and taking the nomination. And thats one of the reasons why paul ryan said its not going to be me. He doesnt want to be the person to do that. I think ted cruz is going to be seizing on this message increasingly. Hes very weary of the white knight coming into the convention and taking this away from him. Hes going to be making something of a pr case over the next few months that not only is that unacceptable, but in some ways its against the rules, its undemocratic. You know, Republican Voters are going to have not very many options going into november. Yep. So their modes of protest are going to be fairly limited. And i think that there are some in the republican establishment who say that, who see that and say, you know what. Its worth the risk. Avik, there is this possibility that donald trump is floating out there of chaotic if not Violent Convention response if he doesnt get the nomination. Ted cruz, on the other hand, is doing the things you have to do to win the nomination. Hes going back to the caucus states, winning the state conventions. Doing it the right way. Why then doesnt the republican establishment want to coalesce behind him, get all of the antitrump energy to go behind ted cruz. He ism someone who ran, who won delegates and won states. Why isnt he getting the consolidation . Hes get smg of it. Many people have come out in support of ted cruz, but there are a lot of people who arent. Maybe its because of all the things he said about railing against the washington cartel. As time goes on and paul ryans statement was helpful in this regard. As the socalled establishment or the donor class realizes they really dont have an alternative that is democratic viable to ted cruz, i think they will come around to him as the best option. Lets move to the democrats. If its gotten crazy on the republican side with the chaos of trying to figure out who will be the nominee, its gotten nasty in the democratic side. Were in that phase where even supporters of the candidates are being viciously vilified. One, George Clooney, who threw a big fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. Some interesting things happened. Lets go to our third video, Bernie Sanders supporters throwing dollar bills at the motorcade of Hillary Clinton as she was going to the George Clooney fundraiser. Were going to roll that video in a second. Just the idea of that, and people went on twitter afterwards. You can see the video there. People throwing dollar bills as if in a strip club. This coming on the heels of a Bernie Sanders surrogate having to apologize for using the term democratic whores at the Washington Square park rally. That visual there, of throwing dollar bills at a woman as shes going by in her motorcade, has the democratic race gone over the edge . Its really striking. I dont co what it is that has caused this. Maybe its because were in new york, the media situation is intense. Theres a tabloid culture, but i think its also that sanders supporters are coming to realize this process is going to come to an end. And that its very difficult for him to have a path forward. Many of them are very frustrated by that. I think many of them really strongly dislike secretary clinton on a personal level. I think thats actually what youre seeing in some of the George Clooney fundraisers. Some of the people outside there. These are not necessarily democratic voters. Theyre people who support Bernie Sanders but would maybe never support secretary clinton. So she maybe has no opportunity to win these folks over. And theyre going to be the hardest to kind of bring across the finish line, if she in fact wins the nomination. I think if were bringing the image of harlotry into the campaign, aside from the fact this is a 60plusyearold woman, that imagery is really striking from liberals. Lets play a little built of George Clooney who has become vilified by a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters for raising lots and lots of money for Hillary Clinton and down ballot democrats. Lets listen to George Clooney on meet the press talking about the fundraiser Hillary Clinton was headed to. Let me start with dinner, you cohosted on friday night, a big fundraiser. I know you have planned for later tonight. Do you look at how much is being raised, and i think the cohost of the friday night dinner, 350,000 a couple to be a cochair, do you look at it yourself and think thats an obscene amount of money . Yes. I think its an obscene amount of money. I think, we had protesters last night when we pulled up in san francisco. And they are right to protest. Its an abseen amount of money. The Sanders Campaign when they talk about it, is absolutely right. Its ridiculous we should have this money in politics. Thats interesting, the striking agreement between George Clooney and protesters on it. Then he went on to describe why it is he was raising that obscene amount of money, that he agreed was obscene. This is George Clooney talking to chuck todd about what the purpose of the fundraiser was. The Clinton Campaign has not been very good at explaining is this. And this is the truth. The overwhelming amount of money that were raising, and it is a lot, but the overwhelming amount of the money that were raising is not going to hillary to run for president. Its going to the down ticket. Its going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back congress. The reason thats important, and the reason its important to me is because we need im a democrat, so if youre a republican, youre going to disagree, but we need to take the senate back. Because we need to confirm a Supreme Court justice. Because that fifth vote on the Supreme Court can overturn Citizens United and get this obscene, ridiculous amount of money out, so i never have to do a fundraiser again. What do you make of the fact that on the sanders side of the ledger here, that argument is not compelling. There is this idea that raising money in even way, even for down ballot, is de facto evil. Well, theres a lot going on here, first of all, i think the sanders supporters are very skeptical of the dnc and of the state parties who they believed from the very beginning have had the deck stacked against them and have tacitly been supporting secretary clinton. The arrangement George Clooney just explained is unusual to happen in a primary. Usually this is something you do in a general election because its assuming on a to a certain extent this money is going to be shared in a general election with the nomthy. So i think sanders supporters are skeptical of that. They dont see the benefit of pouring money into a state party that they think is against them. But at the same time, the Clinton Campaign has been able, luckily for them, to use this argument to justify these large sums of money. Which, you know, as George Clooney said, many people believe is obscene. 300,000 to cohost that event. And even though, as he said, the money is some of it going to state parties, actually, the vast majority of it is going to the Clinton Campaign. At least at this point. Maybe later on, well see quickly, does this hearten republicans to see that essentially it looks like almost an unbreachable gap between the sanders and clinton voters that could benefit your party in the fall . Well, its the other way around. I think a lot of republicans are saying, the democratic nominee is going to be the least Popular Democratic nominee in a long time and republicans probably wont be able to take advantage of it. By the way, i think George Clooney was doing these fundraisers before Citizens United came down. Im not sure if its overturned hes going to stop doing fundraiser for the democratic party. I appreciate you both being here. Well be right back. war drums beating fight heartburn fast. With tums chewy delights. The mouthwatering soft chew that goes to work in seconds to conquer heartburn fast. Tum tum tum tum. Chewy delights. Only from tums. Clear for take off. Roger that see ya we are outta here woo when youre living with diabetes. Steady is exciting. Oh this is living baby only glucerna has carbsteady, to help minimize blood sugar spikes. Thats what im talking about and try new glucerna hunger smart with 15 grams of protein to help you feel full. Glucerna. 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