Good morning, everybody. I am joy reid. That was Bernie Sanders explaining to our own Rachel Maddow why in his view, his cohort of voters are more powerful, more powerful voting bloc, than Hillary Clintons bloc of voters. Thats the case Bernie Sanders plans to make at the Democratic National convention in philadelphia. But so far, got to say, Bernie Sanders is not winning with his cohort of voters. His cohort is actually not helping him get the nomination. In fact, mathematically, sanders is basically eliminated at this point. Lets find out why. The reason comes down to one thing, race. More specifically, africanamerican voters. Lets go to my new friend the board here and take a look at the United States broken down by county and by race. These are the various counties in the United States and the concentration of africanamerican voters is indicated in purple. So the more intense the purple, the darker the purple color that you see, the higher the concentration of africanamerican voters. Not surprisingly, thats mostly in the south. In the states of the former confederacy, right . So you see high concentrations in places here, in the southern part of the United States, a little bit up here in new york and a little bit out here in the west, but in the vast middle of the country, not a lot of africanamerican voters. Now lets take a look at how Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton actually did with those voters in the primaries. You see a pattern here . Hillary clinton doing well in that same big swath of the country where you have high concentrations of black voters. Bernie sanders running up big margins, the intensity of the green and the blue indicating where each of these candidates did better. Bernie sanders running up big margins in places like kansas, minnesota and idaho. Hillary clinton with prohibitive margins in places like mississippi, alabama, georgia, south carolina. Some of these states Hillary Clinton actually won by 80 percentage points, huge wins. To make that even a little more clear for you, lets look at the 20 states with the highest concentrations of africanamerican voters. These are the 20 states where the percentage of africanamericans in the population is more than 10 . So again, we are back to the south again. Places like georgia, alabama, mississippi. Who won those states . We are going to give it a second. Who won those states . Hillary clinton. Hillary clinton winning 19 so far or 18 of the 19 of those states that have voted so far. The only state where Bernie Sanders managed to get a win, right here in michigan. We will talk a little about that later. So the question is why is this map the way it is . Why is Hillary Clinton doing better in the states that have these high black populations than Bernie Sanders . The reason may come down to the way Bernie Sanders explains himself and his issues. Lets go back to the interview he did with Rachel Maddow and listen to him explaining what Hillary Clinton needs to do to win over his voters. As we go into the democratic convention, the Democratic Party has got to open its doors to those young people, to those working people who now do not feel much allegiance to the Democratic Party. That means the Democratic Party has got to be very clear about which side it is on. Is it going to be on the side of wall street . Is it going to be on the side of the Drug Companies or is it prepared to stand with working families and low income people and demand a government that represents all of us and not just the 1 . When you do that, i believe, when you have that agenda you create excitement at the base. All right. Joining me at the table where i have reappeared having played with that little board, from the national memo, joe conason, msnbc contributor toure and joining us from austin is panil joseph from the university of texas at austin. Thank you for coming this morning. I want to start on the last point about the way Bernie Sanders talks about himself. You have been covering this campaign. You have been on the bus, speak to speak, with Bernie Sanders. You heard him speak a lot of times. When hes framing issues of economics, how much does he touch on race typically . He typically touches on race in every single speech he gives. He talks about the real Unemployment Rate being 10 and usually goes into the fact that youth unemployment for hispanics and africanamericans is extremely higher. He talks about this idea of raising the minimum wage and this idea that africanamericans are going to benefit, wholly women are going to benefit so much if you raise the wages. He has appeal, his message i think is the issue. The issue is in the south, they kind of gave up the south to Hillary Clinton. I was on this call once, Conference Call with his senior strategist where they basically said the reason we didnt win the south was because we didnt compete. I was thinking well, you didnt compete so what are you thinking about, why are you talking about it now. I think that was a big problem for him, this idea he didnt think about it. To that point, we pulled through the magic of our friends at nbc news, we pulled out the numbers on the actual spending, whether or not the Sanders Campaign actively competed for black voters. Take a look at that. This is the spending of the campaign so far. They have not wanted for money. In iowa they spent 8 million. In new hampshire, 10 million. You then get to the fourth primary, the most important primary if your plan is to woo africanamericans, 972,000. That spend is not big. You look at a state like new york which is a Massive Media market, they only spent 5. 7 million. For a campaign that is saying it wants to win africanamericans, its in their mess age, they havent spent the money to do it. Clearly they have not, because they have internal polling they know what they can and cannot achieve in terms of the number of voters they can ramp up. Look, i disagree slightly, i think there is a problem with his message in that hes all about class, economy, wall street, inequality. Thats great. For a lot of black people that message doesnt resonate because we understand our problems are greater than class. Our problems are about dealing with White Supremacy and white privilege. Those things are not superseded by when you get a good job or get into the middle class or even the upper class. So hes not dealing with a central problem for us. We understand that this classbased argument is not it leaves us cold a bit because its not the entire story. Also, of course, the gun issue. Black people are more progun safety than white people were after newtown. That is where we live in a very high level of supporting gun safety. His position on that is just a total nonstarter. Especially in a place like new york where you have these issues, yet it is a state restrictive on guns. The way the Sanders Campaign talks about its inability to win over africanamerican voters. I want to start by playing Bernie Sanders talking about the south. This has become a big issue particularly for supporters of Hillary Clinton, the way Bernie Sanders talks about the south. Lets listen to Bernie Sanders. Secretary clinton cleaned our clock in the deep south. No question about it. We got murdered there. That is the most conservative part of this great country. Thats a fact. In my little presentation i did at the beginning, you look at that map of where africanamericans live and it is still so heavily concentrated in the south. How does a comment like that wind up landing with africanamericans, saying we didnt win the south because its so conservative . Yeah. I think he misspoke when he said that. I think that doesnt land very well with the black community. But i think in terms of sanders and race, it has to do with how hes framed his message. He has some great africanamerican surrogates, hes run an impressive campaign. Black lives matter activists sort of pushed him to the left on race. But hes been unable to braid his message of inequality about class inequality like toure was saying, with Racial Justice. That should be his mantra for every speech. I would add racial and gender justice. Bernies big problem is a problem of intersectionality. All the young voters and the young activists who are leading black lives matter chants care about intersectionality. They care about lgbt issues, they care about poverty, they care about race, they care about class and they realize we live all these identities simultaneously so i think his biggest flaw has been sort of conceding that, that Hillary Clinton is going to get these black voters because of bill clinton and because of this decadeslong association but like people like Michelle Alexander talked about when the black community, if you really investigate Hillary Clinton, the Public Policy implications of the clinton administration, you will see mass incarceration, a lot of negative policy impacts, but bernie has sort of conceded that and has had this inability to braid that message. We know hes talking about inequality but he doesnt braid it with Racial Justice and really gender justice, lgbt. He will talk about them in speeches, but its all segmented and siloed and its not together. To that very point, no one has covered the clinton sort of world more than you have, there is this concession that even though the point is made, particularly younger africanamericans are actually interested in sanders message because they do have this intersectional desire to have Something Like revolution politically, this is jane sanders, really conceding the africanamerican vote, all of it, young, old, all of it, to the clintons. Take a listen. She has a Good Relationship with the Africanamerican Community that goes back decades so that hurts us. It helps her. We are making inroads, especially among those under 45, we are winning across races among those under 45. So it takes awhile for them to get to know bernie. I should have said conceding the older part of the africanamerican cohort saying thats just hrelationship. Is that too simplistic, particularly when they didnt spend ad dollars . Its simplistic. Theres definitely a generational divide which i have observed. I went with bill clinton in philadelphia to see the leaders of the a. M. E. Church, bishops who were meeting there. It was like he was their best friend. They have known him for 30 years or more. They know what he did in arkansas as governor which is different than what he did as president. He broke segregation in arkansas, fought for many years. So people, older black people i think understand this about him. Despite differences over issues, plus Bernie Sanders voted for the crime bill. The crime bill was a different thing when it was voted than people have come to see it now, including the clintons. I think it is complicated. There are strata within the Africanamerican Community in terms of voting in this primary. He does have an appeal to younger voters. My view is if bernie had stayed in brooklyn he would be doing a lot better. He would have the Comfort Level in those communities that a guy who has lived in vermont as a politician for all these years, all white pretty much, its just not there for him. Whereas Hillary Clinton knows africanamerican people, she has them in every campaign, in leadership positions. This is not something new for them. They dont have to go and learn about it. One other point i want to make is that what any social group you are asked to join, you will consider who are the people in the group, not just the leaders, right, and you know, i actually lying beike bernie. If he became the nominee, i would be very happy to support him. But the bernie bros are very offputting. To ask me to join that group and stand shoulder to shoulder with them would be difficult for me to do. I think for some black people would feel the same way. They do not present a positive face for the Bernie Sanders movement. Its just something that makes it difficult to want to make that leap. When you have these other idealogical problems of were not together on guns or this or that, and i got to stand with those guys . I want to give this next question to you, as you have been on this campaign trail. I want to show video. This is not about africanamericans. This was a rally in los angeles that Hillary Clinton held on Cinco De Mayo that was met with bernie broism outside. Protesters were screaming at the people who were exiting that Hillary Clinton rally and just the vitriol and anger you are seeing from the base of Bernie Sanders supporters, do you see that on the campaign trail in real time . Im usually at the Bernie Sanders rallies, so its kind of like a party, very celebratory. When i ask people about Hillary Clinton, whether they will support her, the first time you ask, usually people, maybe half the people say no. When i say will you support her if shes running against donald trump, 90 of the people say yes. I think while these people might be protesting outside, as soon as you start asking about donald trump they run over to Hillary Clintons corner. I think some of this is also anger in the fact they are seeing their candidate go down. I was reporting all last week about how they were reassessing, cutting, laying off staff, pulling people. I think they are mad to see this movement they had so much invested in coming to an end. I think that toure makes a good point, we all experience in the media covering this campaign, we experience it in our social media feeds, the kind of rage really that you see among not all, but some supporters of Bernie Sanders. Does that hurt him in trying to build a Broader Movement that is at the end of the day based on being part of the Democratic Party . Well, i think rage hurts everyone. That never helps a candidate. One of the things that when we talk about things like bernie bros is the lack of sensitivity to again that word intersectionality, the fact we really are in this, all in this together. It goes back to bernie has said hes a socialist, a social democrat. When we go back to the 19th century, the key for that revolution was just going to be class. Race, gender, these other issues were really just side issues and we are bringing the margins to the center. Thats whats so exciting about the black lives matter movement. At its best, young bernie supporters of color really talk about intersectionality and some of them have transformed the bernie bros. At its worst, its just about class. It can turn people off. When we think about november, theres going to have to be some kind of united front if Hillary Clintons going to be elected. If young people decide not to vote, not to vote for hillary, if they cant get Bernie Sanders, they are going to be in for a really rough surprise with donald trump. Remember, this happened in 1968, too. We had hubert humphrey, richard nixon, George Wallace running for president. Eldridge cleaver ran as well. Young people did not go to humphrey and we got nixon. Some thought nixon would produce the revolution but he did not. He gave a lot of poor people, lot of black people, a lot of pain. Thank you so much. Up next, republicans had their reagan democrats. Antitrump sentiment is creating Hillary Clinton republicans. How many will dare to Cross Party Lines . Jake reese, day to feel alive jake reese, day to feel alive donald trump is the face of the gop. That makes us crony capitalists. It makes us wafflers. It makes us pretty racist. It makes us Big Government guys. I wont tolerate it. I dont want my children to look at that man and say yeah, hes my president. I wont have that. Glenn beck is not having it. Cracks in Gop Party Unity broke wide open when donald trump emerged as the last man standing and Presumptive Republican nominee. 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