Any sense of inferiority, you know, i felt very respected and i think its going to be good. She was right. Shes an acute observer. It was good. The court ruled in her case. What do you think shes thinking right now . You did it, hon neil. Now when we were waiting for the ruling . Know. No. I prepared three speeches. I did not allow myself to assume wed win. Thats the truth. I thought we had every right to win. I thought our arguments were sound and everyone elses were insane, okay. That was june 26th last year, the day the Supreme Court ruled. One of the cases they considered was about one state having a statewide ban on gay marriage. Supreme court took that case and heard arguments on that case. But ultimately, they decided they wouldment rule on the merits of that california case. The issue was not properly before the court. And the second case they looked at for the same time was the case of phea and edie. They were a couple for 44 years. They were aged 75 and 77 when they finally got married in 2007. By that point, thea had advanced ms. She knew that she did not have a long time left. But she and edie wanted to be married. They were pretty sure of each other after 40 plus years. So even though they couldnt get married here, they flew to canada and got married there. And because of an antigay law that had been signed in the 1990s, federal law did not recognize her as having a surviving spouse. Under sfral law, that status was denied to them despite their legal marriage. The court sort of dodged the issue in the california case last summer. The case of edie and thea was very clearly decided. The court went their way. Good evening gay couples across the country. While the justices did not suddenly make gay marriage the law of the land, they did strike down whats being called the most important ruling ever on gay rights. The defechbsive marriage act known as doma. That law blocked the federal government from recognizing samesex marriages depriving those cups of more than a thousand federal benefits that other married couples have. That was last summer. Landmark Supreme Court ruling striking down the federal ban refusing legal recognition to samesex couples. The Obama Justice department had decided that that federal ban, in their eyes, was unconstitutional. When it came up in court, they decided if the Justice Department wont defend that law, they would. And then a really interesting thing happened. Sdrieking on the law with the banned recognition of it. Four justices voted against. Among them was chief justice john roberts. He argued that this was very teeny tiny little ruling. Very narrow ruling, he said. Didnt really mean much of anything. Really only applied to this one case. Wouldnt have wide implications. Justice skelea on the other hands, he said that was pull pucqey. He agreed with john roberts on the same side of that opinion. But justice skelea lamted in his allcaps exclamation points kind of way, that that ruling said that was going to mean gay marriage everywhere. The justice said that the majority ruling was nonsense. He said legalistic argle bargle. Legally, thats the word he ewesed. It turns out there is a hyphen between arguelebargle. So john roberts said i disagree with this ruling, but at least its not going to have any wider implications. Justice skelea said i disagree with this ruling and its going to be the end of the world. The justice was right, it turns out, if your world is held up by legalized discrimination against married gay couples. Since the edie windsor ruling last summer, what has followed is an almost enbroken streak of 40 straight rulings upholding equal marriage rights for samesex couples and striking down state laws which ban the recognition of those rights. Today, in a move that surprised basically everybody, the Supreme Court decided to let the edie windsor case keep blazing that trail. The Supreme Court denied appeals from gay marriage cases in virginia, indiana, wisconsin, oklahoma, utah. All of those appeals were all turned down at once today, which means that Lower Court Rulings in favor of samesex marriage rights in all of those five states, today, instantly became the law of the land. In those five states and over the course of the next few days in six other states where those courts have jurisdiction, as well, gay marriage will be legal. Once again, though, there is Something Weird on the losing side. According to the Supreme Court, you need five votes. You need five justices on your side. But it only takes four votes to decide to take the case. If they had the chance to over turn, they had the chance to take the case to do it. The antigay marriage side could have taken those cases if they wanted to. Why didnt they. Its a really consequential decision that they didnt. Instead of 19 states and the district of columbia recognizing gay marriage which is true before the open of business today, by this time next week, it another else problemly going to be 30 states. Now, they may not be able to win one of these cases today, but if the makeup of the court changes in the future, like said if a republican president is elected in 2016 and he or she gets to put someone new on the court, then maybe they could take up one of these gay marriage appeals, overturn it and stop the whole thing in its tracks. Yes, maybe theyre all mack ya vel lee. Maybe that is what theyre doing. But the number of states in which gay people can legally get married went from 19 yesterday to 24 today and it will be 34 next week. If you had to bet, and you say when the ninth circuit rules on a case like this, theyre going to add another five states. Arizona, montana, youre up next. Anybody hoping to run out the clock and get to a brighter, more antigay future on the Supreme Court, theyre going to have to content with a country in which not just thousands, but tens of thou sapds of cups are legally married. And undoing that through the courts, by some sweeping antigay Supreme Court ruling in the future, that is a prospect of such daunting radicalism. It is hard to imagine it as fiction. Today, they shook their county clerks hand and said it was a pleasure suing you. They shook hands, he signed their marriage license and timmy and tony will be married in norfolk county, virginia. The day after oklahoma passed its constitutional amendment gaining gay marriage, sued their state for the right to get married. It has been a tenyear battle to get married. They sued in 2004. Today, they got their marriage license in tulsa county, oklahoma. In oklahoma, utah, virginia, indiana wisconsin, it happened today. In north carolina, south carolina, west virginia, colorado, kansas, wyoming, it is about to happen em mentally. 2016 its going to turn back this tide. Somewhere tonight, the justice is listening to opera really loud and saying its all arglebargle. The decision today does not legalize rights in all 50 states. Am i fairly describing what happened here . No, i believe its perfect. Let me ask you how you feel . Obviously, your case was last summer. And that decision, seeing it effectively become almost the law of the land today, how did you feel about todays ruling . Incredibly joyous. Just incredibly joyous. I feel like this gor yous accident of history. We get stopped on the street all of the time by young people saying, thank you or starting to cry. Okay. When you look at that decision today, does that undercut . Would you be happier if you have a 50 state ruling . You know, look. Im a practical lawyer and i believe in results. Soon, it will be 30 states and youre right about the ninth circuit. I think it will include the ninth circuit and i think it will include the sixth circuit, which will be another four. It will become inevitable, very, very soon. So whether its by a sweeping ruling which would have been great or by todays decision, which is also great, the reality the reality. And this country soon will know them as married people who just happen to be gay. When i was watching, i went back and looked at your comments. I was really struck. I didnt feel insulted. I didnt feel like it was essentially an undignified occasion. And i was struck by feeling that you were surprised by that. That you were surprised that your dignity had been protected in this proceeding. I disappointed everybody because they were saying what was the most important thing that happened that day . The most important thing was nan Nancy Pelossi was seated on the far right and she got up and came over and introduced herself. And i was thrilled. So in the moment, it could be anything. Robbie was incredible that day. And all the other thing, in previous things, i didnt really hear what robbies answer is. I guess, then, because i had read the bereariefs, okay, i gu thats what she was answering. With the Supreme Court, i had been hearing things and i heard every word she said. She was so cool and knowing. You know, i thought my heart would burst. This has been a really contested strategy. I mean, there wasnt you guys were not part of a gay rights master plan where you were picked as the perfect and you were picked as the perfect attorney and theres some great coming together. Theres a lot of contested ground over how this should be moved forward. Now that it is moving forward and were seeing the law change in the most unexpected places of all, literally, wyoming, do you feel like this is a resill gent way forward or do you feel like there could be back draking. Right now, the polling numbers have started to go down for the approval of samesex marriage. There were 49 in utah last week, which is incredible. I completely agree with you. I dont think its going backward. I think the decision toad virtually guarantees that it wont go backward. Were going to have the majority of americans in the majority of the United States living to be married. Just like eddie and theas marriage, that their marriage was the same as any couple who had been together for 40 years. Most americans will realize that about their friends and neighbors. The Supreme Court is not going to unmarry anyone. Once these people are married, theyre going to be married and this will be the reality for everyone. Gh that was the thing. Looking a t your relationship, more than 40 years together, had they been making a decision about whether or not you would be allowed to get married. But recognizing that you were, you were plainly mar i ared. 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But that gymnastic, snarming evasion was just the best effort to stop talking about what the republican State Government in texas just did. In the last year for which theres any data, which is 2011, there were 73,000 women in texas who had an abortion that year. These are the clinics in texas which a woman can get an abortion in 2011. Then, last summer, republican governor rick perry signed a new law to shut down abortion clinics all over the state. As of last week, about 2 is clinics in the state of texas. And then on thursday, a federal Appeals Court ruling closed in on 13 more. Next to the antiabortion legislation and signed by the republican texas governor, the 73,000 texas women who used to get abortions every year in that state now have roughly 80 fewer choice of where they can get that service. No clinics west or south of san anyone tone owe. Nowhere in the whole, huge rio grande valley. If the same number of women want to get abortions, which, after all, is their legal right to do so. The last few remaining clinics in the state would have to stay open 365 days a year doing more than 25 abortions a day seven days a week in order to keep up with the demand. Of course there wont be that kind of demand, though, right . Not if the nearest legal clinic is 300 miles away. Overnight, 13 clinics were forced to stop providing Abortion Services immediately. The owner tells us now that dozens of women came to the clinic on friday, the day after the ruling. But they had to be told that they could not get the care that they were looking for that day. And theres really nowhere else to go. Since the law has passed, that texas law has been expected to end up before the United StatesSupreme Court. Today, the senate for reproductive rights took steps to make that happen. They asked essentially toe put that on hold until the case can get a full hearing. Nantynancy, nice to see you. Thanks for being here. Well, texas is a big place. And this is a radical, radical change that has happened. Do we have any parallel in history for a state closing off so much access to so many people . No, what we saw last thursday with the decision of the United States court of appeals is unprecedented. In the 40 years since rowe, theres been a lot of litigation, a lot of attempts to shut down access to Abortion Services. But we have never seen the effect of the law where you lose 80 of the clinics in a state. If the texas law stands, do you think it will become a model for what red states do in the country . Its already become a model. We have laws like this in wisconsin and louisiana and alabama. Its been litigated in all of those states. They have nothing to do with hemt and safety. After a trial, they found that there is no medical necessity for these laws. Thats why weve gone to the Supreme Court to try to get these medics back open. And is that forgive my ignorance on this, is that the basis of the legal path forward and have found that these are too restrictive and they interfere in a constitutionally protected right. Therefore, the court should intervene. Is that the path . The path is that they should intervene. What the fifth circuit did was wrong. The facts here are clear. The impact is huge. In terms of what the impact is, 73,000 women in texas, in 2011, got an abortion in that state that year. What do you expect will happen materially to lose 80 of the clinics providing that service. Youre going to see women crossing the border into mexico to buy drugs on the black market. Youre going to see women decide that they cant get the abortion that they feel they they need to have. Theyre going to take the time off from wrork and the money to drive that 500 miles round trip. But what youre going to see for sure, the state of texas, unless the Supreme Court steps in, the state of texas has been allowed to let the politicians there for absolutely no good reason, cut off action to Abortion Services. In toermings of the courts response, youre obviously asking the court for emergency intervention here. When do you expect an answer . We dont know. But what we know is women are being hurt in texas right now. And we need the court to step in. Ahead on the interview tonight, weve got the dallas official who is charged with handling americas firstever ebola case. And hes doing so with remarkable personal involvement in the herb shoe. Hes here for the interview. Stay with us. Thats why we use fedex one rate. Their flat rate shipping. Exactly. It makes us look topnotch but we know its affordable. [ garage door opening ] [ sighs ] honey, havent i asked you