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MSNBCW The Rachel Maddow Show October 8, 2014

Also, tonight, weve got Elizabeth Warren here live for the interview. Thats coming up live in just a few minutes. Theres a big show. A lot going on. But were starting tonight with breaking news on a National Security issue. The f. B. I. Has taken the unusual step today of asking the American Public for help about isis. Specifically, the f. B. I. Is asking for help in trying to identify this man. That was a propaganda video released a couple weeks ago. The individual that youre looking at right here, hes wearing militarystyle camouflaged fatigues. This man is believed by u. S. Security officials to be north american. They think hes an american citizen, possibly a canadian citizen who traveled overseas to join the fight with isis and then appeared in this video. I should tell you as a general rule, we here at msnbc and nbc news, we do not typically play extended clips of isis pron began da visit owes, but in this case, theres a specific reason to. The government has taken the unusual step of reposting just under a twominute long section of that long video. Its a video thats almost an hour in length. The f. B. I. Has excerpted a portion thats just under two minutes long and posted it on the f. B. I. Web site and asked americans to watch it, specifically because theyre trying to gather tips from the American Public about who that masked man is. Yes, hes wearing a mask. But they believe that somebody may be able to figure out who he is. We are here in the 17th Division Military base just outside the city of oracka. And were here with the soldiers of bashad. You can see them now digging their own graves in the very place that they were stationed. Again, thats a portion of the isis video that was posted online at the f. B. I. Web site tonight. Later on in the portion that the f. B. I. Posted, they dont show it graphically, but they show enough to show that this man goes onto participate in this murder of some of those who are reported to be Syrian Government soldiers who you saw behind him introducing there in that clip. And, as you can hear in the clip, the gentleman speaking here, does appear to have an american accent, at least a north american accent. U. S. Officials tell nbc news it could be a canadian accent. At this point, they dont know who he is or where hes frm. But theres enough to identify him in this clip and theyre seeking any information that they can get from the public. The f. B. I. Also released this wanted poster. This weekend, the director of the f. B. I. , james comey, he addressed the threat posed by americans traveling overseas to join the fight with isis. He told them the f. B. I. Knows dozens oaf so that are fighting with syria. Tell the f. B. I. Any information they have about any american who is planning to travel to syria to fight with isis who may have traveled there already. Any information, they say no bit of information is too small. But, again, tonight, they have expanded on that specifically towards this one target. They apparently believe that this is one of those dozen or so americans or north americans who have joined the fight with isis. Hes seen killing people in this propaganda video. The f. B. I. Has been analyzing this piece of tape for weeks now. Its pat of the investigation. Theyve taken the remarkable step to reaching out to the American Public on their web site in this hopes that somebody can identify. Joining me now is justice oj how unusual is it for the f. B. I. To take a case like this to the public. Obviously, we all know about the ten most wanted lists. Specifically on a Counter Terrorism case, we have no con takts with at this point. Its not the first time theyve had help in identifying suspected help in f. B. I. Overseas. They posted pictures from the surveillance attack if you see any of the pictures there. The unfortunate fact is it can be done now. Its a way of taking the isis propaganda tool and now trying to use the tool against the terror group by rex newsing the voices. The f. B. I. Didnt feel there was much to be gained by simply playing the audio of the narrator. Nay do show extended excerpts from that video. They say were not only asking for tips on who this guy is, but were also asking for help from the public in identifying anyone else in america that people suspect might be planning to go over seas to commit jihad or have recently come back. Its a reflection of, i think, the fact that more of these videos are out there and isis produces all of its materials in english specifically to appeal to westerners and, especially americans. But its also a reflection of the fact that this is one of the f. B. I. s biggest concerns about people who go join up isis and then come back. In the f. B. I. Press release, they noted that an isis fighter with a british accent was seen in previous propaganda videos and they note that it has been reported that the identity of that britishaccented isis fight ere may be known to british authorities. That he may have been identified. Theres been some american officials that indicated that british accented fighter is, as well. Is there any indication that knowing who these guys are helps fight isis in any way . Or at least helps track down any risk that they may pose back to their home countries . Two points about that. One is the f. B. I. Director himself has told us that both he and the u. S. Are confident that they know who that british man is. But, secondly, if they can figure out who these people are, even if they cant get at them in syria or iraq or where ever they are, a, it may help them track them down using all the methods that you can probably conjure up in your own mind that neednt be any further explained here. But, secondly, if they have some comforts in knowing who they are, they can try to figure out who they might be in contact with in the u. S. They can try to talk to their friends and relatives. What was it that radicalized them. Are they 234 touch . Do they tend to come back . Any information that they can get will be extremely valuable, they say. Pete williams, thank you for helping us understand this tonight. I really appreciate it. The breaking news tonight that the f. B. I. Has posted on its web site just under a twominute section. The overall video is about 55 minutes long. They show a shorter section that highlights a north american or a canadian accent. He sorts of transitions between fluent arabic and fluent edge learn. Theyre asking for the public at large to watch that tape, see if you see anything that you recognize or you might know who that is. They say no tip is too small. It is interesting the point that people made there, that there aid peer to be two american accents or at least north american accents on that. And then the other one is the clip that was focused on in the f. B. I. Web site where you can both see the person wearing the mask and hear his voice at the same time. The f. B. I. Choosing to focus on that second man, presumably because they believe something about the combination of hearing his voice and seeing him at the same time may make it possible for somebody to identify him. It does, given the technical sophistication of these isis propaganda videos, it does raise the question as to whether or not his voice has electronically altered in terms of the way we hear it on that video. The fact that the f. B. I. 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Watch how fast this is going. A as of this weekend, this is where samesex marriage was legal in this country. D. C. Plus these 19 states. Then, yesterday morning, when the Supreme Court turned down a whole bunch of appeals all at once, that decision instantly added five more states. So, yesterday, we went from those five initial states and add add oklahoma, i believed ya that, utah and wisconsin. Oh, but, wait, theres more. Because of the way that the Supreme Court decided yesterday, because they decided by letting Lower Court Rulings stand, those lowercourt rulings mean that samesex marriage is legal in all of the other states that those courts have jurisdiction in. So yesterday we started with 19 states and directly added five more. But now, these other six states, which are under the same jurisdictions of those lower courts, these six are now also in the process of legalizing samesex marriage at the same time. So you can also at colorado, kansas, north carolina, south carolina, West Virginia and wyoming. Oh, but, wait, theres mr. Today, another one of those courts ruled that state bans against samesex marriage was unconstitutional. Bcm so we put back up the score card there. Todays ruling, from the ninth circuit, directly overthrew the antigay marchage ban in two more states. So they directly legalized samesex marriage in idaho and nevada. But the ruling also applied to all the other states in that circuit as well which currently ban marriage. So in addition to idaho and nevada being added today, you can also add these three more. Montana, alaska, arizona. Unless the Supreme Court takes it up, which they wont, will also legalize samesex marriage in alaska, montana and arizona. In the course of 36 hours, we have gone from the same sex marriage being legal where theyre either legal or in the process of becoming legal in very short order in almost the whole country. 65 pbt of the population. Wow, that was fast. Its now easier to count the number of states where marriage rights were not equal. And then than it is to count it all the other way. And it all happened in 36 hours. Republicans like ted cruz and texas and mike lee and tom tillson in north carolina, theyre all mashing their teeth about this. But avenue foot fighting like this, were stimwaiting on it all at once. But, honestly, if youre waiting with baited breath for that result, its because youre not paying attention to the movement of higs ri right now. So on that issue, on that one part of the law about our rights in this country, the courts are just racing ahead right now. Its happening all over the country, even where you wouldnt expect it and its just happening now. Boom. The day before that, june 125th last year, the day before the big gay rights ruling, that same Supreme Court took a sledge hammer to Voting Rights in this countr country. They struck down the five appointed conservative justices in that case and argued that discrimination was a thing of the past. It was something we no longer needed federal protections against states discriminating in the way they let people vote. That was sort of a lovely, feel good fairy tale. The idea of a no longer contested territory is bull puckey. But since 2010, since the last big term election in which they won control of State Governments all across the country, 18 sdimpbt republicancontrolled states have changed the law to make it harder to vote. Conservatives on the Supreme Court explaped that we dont need to worry about Voting Rights being restricted anymore. That was all in the past. And they explained that at the exact moment that Voting Rights are being restricted more than at any other time in the last couple of generations. So gutting Voting Rights on a tuesday, and then the next day, wednesday, they had their big gay rights dgsz. It was a very confusing time. But, now, more than a year later, we are still reaping the whirlwind of that very confusing time in american rights. Because right now, as weve got this lightning progress from the Supreme Court and the lower federal courts on marriage rights, as thats just steaming across the country at the exact same time thats happening, wore now one month out from the elections. Thats the kind of voter fraud that would be put off by voter id. Once republicans got control of the state legislature, they passed a new law in 2011 that blocks you from voting in wisconsin unless you have an idea. Id. Unless you bring specific documentation which hundreds of thousands of residents do not have. Just to give you a sense of the scale of what theyre doing, he won by about 125,000 votes. The estimates prepared for the courts as to how many legal wisconsin voters dont have the id to show that you need to vote in wisconsin anymore. The range is, at the low end, 160,000. At the high end, about 370,0 0. He only won by 125,000 votes. You think i e it might make a difference . I mean, most of the people without id, lets be honest, are people who are poor, people who live relatively trans yents lives, people who are disproportionately from minority populations. You take somewhere between 160,00,370,00 of those voters, no democrat will ever win wisconsin again. At least not stay a while. So thats what Wisconsin Republicans passed in 2011. For obvious resumes, it was quickly blocked by the courts. All year this year, its been blocked by the courts sending out thousands and thousands and thousands of absentee bhal lots. For people planning on voting in wisconsin, theyve already sent their ballots. And theyve said nothing about this volter id requirement because it had been on hold for yores in the courts. And then things got totally nuts. Even though the ballots have already been sent out, people are already voting, a federal appealings court decided to jump in and say that they can start enforcing that law right now in the middle of the election after people have already started voting. So, now, in wisconsin, theyre traxing down all the absentee ballot votes to tell them actually, the rules for voting in this election are different than they ever been before. So theyre trying to track down all of those people. Their voting is done and their vote will count. Their civic duty has been discharged vm. That the voter may or may not have and they would not have to show their vote this time before they already voted. That chaos is underway right now in we will. The State Government has decided that no money will be directed to state agencies understand the new law, to help state workers comply with the new law or to let anybody know that this change has happened in the middle of the election. This sort of Good Government group inside wisconsin is called the Government Accountability board. They asked the ledge slayture if they could please have half a million tlars to run an ad campaign between now and november 4th, letting everybody know about these new rules that had never been used before. The republican controlled state legislature issued a hearing to say that they considered that request. That hearing was due to happen today. Bud then they cancelled it. Is theres no money to educate anybody in the state and no plans to let anybody know that anything has changed between now and election day. What could possibly go wrong . If youre starting to feel like this isnt going wrong and its going the way they want it to go, thats because youve been paying attention to recent history. Remember that the conservative group afp, in wisconsin that year, they sent out mailers with absentee ballot applications. In 2012, the hardfought president ial election in wisconsin, black and latino sections of milwaukee wisconsin mysteriously got 85 of these very scary billboards anonymously posted by some private family foundation. The billboards just in poor, minority neighborhoods threatening 3 1 2 years in prison and 10,000 in fine if you vote wrong in wisconsin. Are you sure its worth the risk . You could go to jail. And then this years elections chlts its the federal appeals court. For thousands of people, theyre changing the rules right in the middle of the election. And theres no state plan to even pretend to try to make it work. 5 00 p. M. Eastern time today was the deadline for the state of wisconsin to tell the Supreme Court of the United States why the Supreme Court should not weigh in here on this mess. The five judges who all voted to intervene and institute this new law and ch

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