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MSNBCW For The Record With Greta March 8, 2017

With their own version of a bill to gut obamacare. Whats the next move from President Trump and from the democrats . Plus, womens marches coast to coast calling for equality and many taking a stand against the new white house. Well have live coverage. Yes, demanding proof and its just not one party, now both republicans and democrats are demanding information, proof on President Trumps stunning claim that former president Obama Wiretapped him. The drum beat on capitol hill increasing. And just a short time ago, Senate Judiciary Committee Members senators graham and whitehouse firing off a letter to fbi director james comey requesting the kdepartment of justice provide copies of warrants, applications and court orders related to wiretaps of President Trump, the Trump Campaign or trump tower. And republicans on the house Judiciary Committee also calling on fbi director comey to investigate President Trumps wiretapping claim. So what if the department of justice and the fbi flatout refuse to answer . Our kasie hunt asked senator graham today. Reporter would you subpoena this information if you dont get it . Theres no reason for them not to give it to us, all were asking for is the warrant issued and if they dont give it to us, yes, ill subpoena it. Im not trying to compromise classified information. Not trying to compromise an investigation. The question is, has it ever been a warrant issued . This is a major deal for the country. I want to get to the bottom of it. Senate intelligence Committee Members went to cia headquarters today to look at the raw russia data. Kasie caught up with the vase chairman of the committee. Just came back from the cia, where there were four senators, we got a chance to look at some of the raw intel product. In many ways, we got even more questions now. Weve got more information weve got to get access to. I know as the committee gets into this next stage of listing who we want to have conversations with, but main thing is that, you know, were all committed, democrats and republicans there today to keeping this bipartisan. The American People deserve to hear all of the facts. With me, senator angus king, independent of maine, who serves on the senate Intelligence Committee. Good evening, sir. Hello, greta, how are you . Im very well. So, senator warner who went over to langley, cia, which i understand you were just over there, yourself, said after going over and looking at information, he has more questions. Do you have more questions after your trip to langley today . Well, i do have more questions but i also have more answer. I was there for most of the afternoon. Marco rubio and i were both there and i think its important that people realize that this is a bipartisan investigation and it has nothing to do with party. Were just trying to get to the facts. Yeah, there are certainly questions to be answered but, you know, one of the one of the factors here, which i think is really well established, is that the russians did interfere in our election in 2016. They intended to do so. The orders came from the very top and i think thats clearly established. The documents i saw today confirm whats already been released in a nonclassified manner. So so i think were very far along on that aspect of it. The other piece, greta, that hasnt gotten as much attention that i think is really important, was that there were russian attempts to get into state voting system. Registration rolls. Voting machines. Things like that. All the indications are it didnt work, that they werent successful, but they werent doing it for fun. And what worries me is they were practicing, they were probing, they were looking for vulnerabilities and im worried about the next couple of elections coming and what mischief they could be up to on that front which would really be a catastrophe. Imagine this election if we had found out a couple days later that voting tallies had been changed in one or the other of the states. It would have really been a blow to our democratic process. All right. Wou with some of the states so close like pennsylvania as one of them, it actually seems to me important, whether we knew of the russian meddling in our election, when we knew it. Did we know it last fall . Last summer . And what efforts were taken . Because, you know, that makes a difference to me or did we just learn recently . Did we just figure it out recently . No, there was a report, because it came out in sort of the middle of the campaign, it didnt get as much play, but october 7th, the Intelligence Community, the leaders of the Intelligence Community, issued a report which said the russians are trying to interfere with our elections, we know that theyre trying to get into our state election systems. That was in october. And what we need to learn from that is how do we protect the state election system, things like dont attach Voting Machines to the internet, always have paper backup for your ballots and those kinds of things but this is something we really need to be aware of, and of course, the good news is that they couldnt get in. The bad news is that our system is very decentralized and that helped them it helped to keep us safe, but weve got to have the states really have their guard up. All right. In the beginning, i think if am iorrect, sir, you said the ssians did interfere, so naturally im focusing on whether, you know, the integrity of the election was compromised with those very close states. Can you say categorically, can the cia say categorically that they have had no impact on the states that were so laser close, for instance, like pennsylvania . I can say now that you know, categorically, now, forever and always, but theres no indication at this point that they had any effect on vote tallies or Election Results in that sense. In the sense of messing around with Voting Machines or registration rolls. But what bothers me is, what worries me is, they tried or at least tried to figure out how they could do it and so im worried about worri worried about 2018, 2020, 2022. Lindsey graham sent a letter over to justice, to the fbi. They want all the information of any possible wiretaps by the administration of President Trump, his campaign or trump tower. Whats your thought about this . I think theyre doing exactly the right thing. It doesnt surprise me. Those are two senators who work well together on a bipartisan basis. I think our committee, the Intelligence Committee, is going to be looking into the same subject, but, you know, one way to verify this is for the president of the United States whos in charge of the entire executive branch to pick up the phone and call the fbi and say were there wiretaps at trump tower . That would be a short way to get the answers to these questions. Ive heard that, but then it occurred to me that when first of all, i dont think hed get an answer i dont know if hed get an answer in a criminal investigation, but when Reince Priebus tried to correct the record on a New York Times story that the fbi tipped him off was a story that yuused the term, bs on, we in the media jumped them that theyre trying to interfere with criminal investigations. I would actually if the president said to me, should i call the fbi and see whats up, id say you better leave that alone, let the fbi do its job. Well, and of course, if he called and the fbi said we cant discuss that, that would indicate that there was an investigation, but i think this is something we can look into. Its fairly easily verifiable whether the fbi was involved and it may be that there was some investigation that didnt involve mr. Trump, himself, but involved servers somewhere in the organization and i dont know about that. But i think it is something we should get to the bottom of but i do feel if the president is going to make a charge like that, he should put forward some evidence other than a story in a newspaper or a talk show host. Not just say people are saying the president bugged me. I think he owes the American People some further explanation and evidence. In any case, well get to the bottom of it here, im quite sure. You know the problem is, i trust wanting to get to the bottom of it. The Intelligence Committee, so much is done behind closed doors and with the temperature thin ts country right now, i dont think people are going to be happy with things done behind closed doors. Would not an independent commission, perhaps, be wiser . Just because theyre more likely to do it in open, can see more of the classified stuff. The American People right now are the temperature is up pretty high in terms of being poisoned and paised. Biased. I completely agree with you. Theres no rule that says the Intelligence Committee has to work behind closed doors. We do have public hearings. I think our first set of hearings should be open. I think we should have as much of our work as possible that doesnt compromise intelligence the mechanics of how we gain the information should be public. I absolutely agree. The problem with an independent commission, we may end up going there, is theyd have to start all over with clearances, who would be on it, how would they be appointed . You know, does the president get an appointment, the two parties . Would be six or eight months for them to get where we are now. And my view is were going to do everything we can to get to the bottom of it, to get all the facts to be straightforward, to follow the facts where they lead. If they doesnt work, if i sense that this is turning into either a witch hunt or a whitewash, im out and im going to say so publicly that this the Intelligence Committee isnt working. I dont believe thats going to be the case. So far, bipartisan, lots of good, strong members on the committee and i think were going to be able to do the work the American People trust us to do as openly, not behind closed doors, openly as absolutely possible while not compromising security. Thanks for being with us, sir. Thank you, greta, glad to be with you. This coming as fbi director comey making his first public speech since the president took to twitter accusing the former president of wiretapping him. Director comey carefully avoiding any mention of wiretapping. You can ask me about anything, im very slippery, ill avoid talking about things i dont want to talk about. He avoided talking about it today, can he a i vovoid it 12 from now . The first public hearing of the russian hack of our election. Guess who was invited to testify . Yep, you guessed right. Fbi director james comey. Hes not the only one. Nsa director mike rogers. Former ci ax direa director joh brennan. James clapper. General sally yates. What might we find out then . Matthew miller is former department of justice spokesperson under eric mold e. And david priest, author of th the president s book of secrets. Matt, first to you, what can we learn at this hearing . Think anyones going to talk, first of all . I think so. I think director comey will be reluctant to talk about the facts of the underlying investigation. I think the questions about what the russians did, we know some of that from the Intelligence Community report that was released in january. I think well see more. I think well also see jim comey asked obviously is it true that the fbi illegally wiretapped, el l illegally is the important part, illegally wiretapped donald trump during the came papaign . If they havent done it by march 20th, when comey steps to the mike in that hearing, i suspect hell come out and defend the integrity of the fibl abi and t prosecutors who the president accused of breaking the law. David, if you were kdesignin the questions, draft the questions, youve been inside the cia, what would you ask of whom . Im fascinating by the senators comments about the open and closed hearings because its very hard to just say everything should be open except for the sensitive intelligence. Well, thats the whole nature of a closed hearing. The questions that need to get at the core of this may start in closed hearings, but theyll end up open one way or another. What would you ask of whom . I would want to find out what the Intelligence Community knew and when. And what they did about it at the time in terms of informing customers because you have to remember, theres the whole executive branch process through the president s daily brief and other sensitive intelligence that does not nesz lynecessaril the Intelligence Committees as such. That information can be made available to the Intelligence Committees through briefings and other materials. When were those products given . How were they given . What was known when . And how is it communicated to senior officials . Those are all crucial questions. Matt, are we going to learn anything at these hearings, do you think . Are we really going to learn anything . I think so. I dont think well learn much at all about the question of collusion between the Trump Campaign and russian intelligence. Just, i keep saying this because it was the dni clapper said it on meet the press and, you know, i hope hell come and talk to us, give us more information. He said there was no evidence of collusion. Which, you know, would have been, to me, would have been what i would have run with if i were the trump white house. Yes. Its one thing for clapper to say that, up to january 20th, the last day he was in office. The campaigns over at that point. Right. Its a different thing for the fbi director who is still apparently investigating that question. I dont think hell talk about that given that they still have an open and active investigation. One thing i think democrats will really be interested in asking, though, is not just about the underlying investigation but how the white house is responding to this investigation. You know, weve seen questions about Reince Priebus talking to director comey, talking to the Deputy Director of the fbi about that story. See, maybe i dont have all the facts but im somewhat sympathetic to Reince Priebus on the whole business of when he walked out of the meeting, the way its portrayed in the media. I have no personal information is the Deputy Director came up and said, hey, that story was bad and it wasnt like he was digging for information. But when the Deputy Director called back and said you know what, we cant make a public statement, priebus didnt let it drop at that. You know what, frankly, if that were said about me that i was doing that i was colluding with russian intelligence and that, it was false, a Deputy Director of the fbi told me that, he couldnt say anything, id get on the phone and make phone calls to ask for help. Not to knock it down but to correct the record. Not just that, there is also the report in the times this weekend that the white House Counsel was calling over to the Justice Department to try to find out if there was a fisa warrant into donald trump. Thats a different topic. A lot of those type of questions thats different. With the campaign. Lets not forget the closest historical parallel is 9 11 and the commission. The 9 11 commission started with investigations in congress with congressional committees then it was determined this really had to be an independent commission. Thats a similar road. Not an exact parallel. There are no such things. Its the closest one we have. We may be getting to a position where some of the thing comes out in the open testimony next week, some things revealed in the close the testimony make it clear to all involves there will have to be an independent six, seven, eight months to do it. I nomination Alan Dershowitz to do it in a week. You could get together a Commission Commission of people with clearances or people eminently clear, in a brief period of time and get this together in a couple weeks. Nobody is going to be satisfied with a behind closed doors investigation. I dont care what happens. 50 of the country is going to be mad. In they want a commission to happen, its going to happen fast. Thank you, both. Coming up, the new republican civil war. Conservatives rising up against party boss on obamacare. Were going to talk to congressman jim jordan, going rogue. Defied leaders with his own version of a bill to repeal obamacare. Women on the march. Coast to coast action from womens day rallies. And guess who is coming to dinner, President Trump, senator cruz and their wives sitting down together tonight. I wonder if theyll talk about this. Everybody hates cruz. Lyin ted cruz. Donald, youre a sniveling coward. Wow, to be a fly on the wall. Thats ahead. You totaled your brand new car. 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