Interview with mr. Kushner when the committee decides that its time for us to set a date because we know exactly the scope of what needs to be asked. And the committedy leaders vowing to Work Together and let the facts lead the investigation. Having served as an advisor on the Trump Campaign, can you say hand over heart that you can oversee an impartial and serious absolutely. Ill do something ive never done. Ill admit that i voted for him. We always hide who we vote for, thats parted of the democratic process. But ive got a job in the United States senate, and i take that job extremely serious. It overrides any personal beliefs that i have or loyalties that i have. I have confidence in richard burr that we together with the members of our committee will get to the bottom of this. But the house investigation a tad bit different, real different. More scrutiny on chairman nunes, a topic the Senate Leaders punted on. Well answer anything about the Senate Intelligence committees investigation. We will not take questions on the House Intelligence Committee. We would refer those to the House Intelligence Committee. Now every single democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee is calling on the chairman nunes to step down today. He says no chance. No, they have done very little to even look through the documents that the intelligence agencies have provided. So i think at the end of the day here, were going to get to the truth and well finding out whos actually doing a real investigation and youll find out that we are very much doing an investigation and have been for a long time. Are you worried about being able to work with mr. Schiff . Were always concerned about this. We always wanting to keep the committee bipartisan, but at the end of the day, were going to do an investigation with or without them. And if they want to participate, thats fine. We dont even know who their witnesses is that they want to call, so i would encourage you guys to go and start to follow them around and figure out who they want to bring in and interview. And then theres this. Just moments ago reporters caught up with chairman nunes again. Who at the white house gave you access to the intel . Guys, theres nothing theres nothing here. Appreciate the attention, though. Thank you. Did the white house know did the white house know about the intel before you briefed them on it . Thank you, guys. Ive answered all the questions over and over again. Probably the following week. Were they involving Trump Associates . Were not going to get into the witness list at this point. It depends who wants to come freely. Some People Volunteer to come freely so obviously well do interviews with those folks. Yeah, were looking forward to getting the information. How are you doing this with the Committee Democrats calling for your recan you feel. How are you moving forward . Well continue to work through this. I think there will be active participants will be by guess. Thank you. With me congresswoman jackie spear, democrat from the great state of california who serves on the House Intelligence Committee. And she is calling for chairman nunes to resign as chairn of the committee. Nice to see you. Great to see you, greta. Some say thaert he should recuse himself as the chairman. You want him to step down from the committee. I think it is very hard when he has put in place all of those Staff Members of the committee and then were going to have a separate chair for the investigation into the russia connection and were going to have two chairs operating down there. I finding it really complex and i dont think it can happen. When you go to the substantive aspect of it, does it play into any of the events of the last week . The fact that he got this call and he goes to the white house. He wont tell the source and then he has a press conference the next day. Then he runs down and talks to the president , then he has another press conference and now he wont tell us any of this. So at first youve got to begin to wonder if the House Intelligence Committee is an oxymoron now. You saw what the senators did. They didnt even want to talk about it. I know. They were like house what . We dont know anybody on the house side. Who . You know, the crumbs were laid last week when the president said there will be something coming out in the committee next week. This in my mind was orchestrated by the white house and nunes was part of the deal from the beginning. Prior to two weeks ago, you worked with him, right . Yes. Thats whats so interesting. Whats he like . He was easy to work with. It was a bipartisan committee. Its like drz a dr. Jekyll mr. Hyde that has taken place here. He is different. He has become pugnacious and silent and surrepticis and all of a sudden were reading about it in the press. I dont get a sense that hes consulting with other republicans on the committee either. I see the divide between the republicans and democrats, but i dont have a sense talking to republican members that hes telling them any of this information. Well, the one thing we know is that after we had the hearing and the bombshell was let out by director comey. Which was . Which was not only were they investigating the relationship of russia and their intervention in our electoral process, they were looking at the coordination that might have been going on between the Trump Campaign operatives and the russians. That was a huge bombshell. And after that hearing when the democrats were all developing the links with russia within the trump orbit and all of the republicans were talking about leaks, they then, i think, decided at that point they were not going to have the next Committee Hearing that was supposed to be public. Are you saying all the republicans or nunes . No, the republicans met together. So you think theyre all in this secrecy kabal for lack of a better word . I think they have circled the wagons. Theyre all going to defend devin for the near term. Theyre hooked to his star right now, or lack thereof. Hes getting barbecued. Im sewery sympathetic to people getting barbecued, i feel sorry for the underdog, but he could ending this. This is selfinflicted wound. Hes the one thats put all this sinister, sneaky, mysteries, wrapped this all in this mystery. So he could end all of this and ju tell us. But he hasnt, and i dont think he intends to. And i think the republicans think that they can just weather the storm. Were going on recess for two weeks and by the time we return, hell be able to just resume his activities. I dont think its going away. Certainly the people that are calling my office are not pleased with whats going on. When was the last time you spoke to him . Well, at the hearing. And he is friendly, nice, everything . Yes. Congresswoman, nice to see you. Nice to see you. Thank you, greta. The house investigation into russia was once again a big part of the White House Press briefing. Spokesperson sean spicer faced a barrage of new questions about chairman devin nunes. One of the reasons theres this question about chairman nunes is he hasnt told his own Committee Members what he knows, how he learned about it and what the substantive importance of that is. So we are also curious about that. And among the things that might be or might shed light about that is how he got here, who he met with and what he learned. I understand. Those are questions for him. The members of the very committee themselves say they dont know. Fair enough. What was being skugsd. How is the process Going Forward . The answer to that question is thats a question for chairman nunes. How he conducts himself with his members, when and where he shares things, et cetera, are issues for him and the committee and the house of representatives, not for us. Eugene robinson is a columnist for the Washington Post and Howard Fineman from the huffington post. Nunes . What nunes . Hes the guy who was on the white house ground the other day looking at top secret information, courtesy of someone, we dont know who. Theyre treating him like a fence jumper. You cant jump the fence at this point. You have to be escorted in by somebody. You have to be validated by somebody to get into the white house. Even a congressman cant just waltz onto the white house grounds to go to a secret place to look at secret documents. So somewhere theres a record of who it was who asked the guy who come in. The problem that nunes has is the problem that gene and i have seen and you have seen in washington forever. Its probably not whatever the original russia story was about what Paul Manafort or the others were doing. I dont think looking at the evidence that its about Donald Trumps campaign directly coordinating with the russians. Its about what the white house and its fellow travelers do to slow down or try to stop an investigation. And you put nunes right in that narrative right now. Im telling you, its not fair to guess and to be suspicious, but hes put us in that position. When i looked when i dissected what he said, he said that someone was unmasked who was on the Transition Team. So the first thing i thought, well, guess who was on the Transition Team . He was, he was, he was. But was it something that he said and he doesnt want us to know about it . I dont know. Well, thats the question. One of 20 questions we could sit here and ask about this, right . But thats like one of the first questions. Is there going to be a house investigation or not basically . You saw what the senate thinks about the house. Exactly. At this point you have to say not, because whatever he does at this point has no credibility. Do you even want a house investigation at this point . Youve got the senate investigating it and we had two adults coming out today, right . They sounded like total adults. Total adults. And meanwhile you have the real investigation going on with the fbi, right, which as you know has you know, they have theyre a bit more serious about this. If you dont think they act adult, ask the people that theyre hauling in to question. I think the adults, if there are any in washington, and thats always an open question, have decided that the house investigation is hopelessly corrupted, because nunes going over to the white house looking at the stuff and then telling donald trump about it. Thats not an independent investigation. And not telling us. And not telling his own people. Not telling the committee. So its not bipartisan. So the senate, which may be in the process, by the way, of getting rid of the most characteristic Senate Procedure of all time, which is the filibuster which harry reid did. In all fairness totally. Which harry reid began the slippery slope of that, i agree. But the senate still wants to preserve the idea that the senate is the independent cooling saucer and deliberative body of american politics. And if they give up the filibuster, theyre going to say that burr and warner, two southern paragons of deliberativeness, are going to actually do a thorough investigation. And theres some competition between the house and the senate here. The house has been turned into a hopelessly parliamentary operation where nobody in the minority has any authority whatsoever. If youre going to reserve preserve any bipartisanship in washington, any independent assessment of the idea that facts exist, thats at least for now what burr and warner are saying and thats powerful. Eugene, its become so weird in this whole thing, this whole thing with nunes, and so its so its easy for me to roll my eyes, but this is fund mently extremely serious. Extremely serious we get to the bottom of all of this, and the world is watching. Exactly, the world is watching. Serious questions have been asked and they need to be answered. As howard said, theres no grievous underlying crime here well, its not necessarily related to the white house directly. But we dont know. We dont know, we dont know. We dont know. I think its you know what, i dont think this is fair to the American People that they played that they game us like this. I dont think thats fair. Its not fair to the American People. I hate making this comparison, but its actually apt in this occasion. Its the watergate comparison. It was about something that happened in the 1972 campaign. And ultimately it was about the coverup. It wasnt the crime. That is if youre going to ascribe greta, if youre going to inscribe in marble, its not the crime, but the coverup. The other thing i would say is this is not an Atlantic City gambling license hearing. Okay . This is big stuff involving the highest level of potential corruption of the american political system by a foreign country. Youve got to take it seriously. And to all of you watching from Atlantic City and you think its real important, Howard Fineman, ill give you his email address at the next break. Thank you, gentlemen. 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