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MSNBCW Up With David Gura September 14, 2019

Joined by 2020 democratic contender marian williamson. We begin with the president making policy decisions without a security advisor. The president says he fired john bolton, john bolton says he resigned. The president has been reaching out to another former security advisor, john boltons predecessor for advice. Guest of the show talks about trumps management style. There is a pattern, i disparage you, i shanked you, i need advice, i miss you. Picking up the phone in months, john bolton could be on the phone. Let me start with you and focus on this. The staffing of the white house and this president s reliance on advisors. What do we learn about this chapter in the story . We learn yet again that advisors are not really what hes looking for. Sycophants is what hes looking for. There is a lot of press around john boltons advisors and how he wants this emthem to behave. Only those who are going to play the devils advocate and think things through. In no way do i feel like a love for bolton. When this happens, you feel a strange you feel something about them. All of a sudden, im worried about what will happen to him. Hell be fine. Right. You do want someone in the room that would say, hey, bringing the taliban to camp david is a bad idea. A worse idea on the week of 9 11. Apparently, thats not what the president wants to hear. He wants people to love his ideas and be tortured in the press because of their unfailing support. If they make one mistake, he throws them under the puss in public. Something written about in white house staffing. Many of those who roll in and out of trumps business are like abused spouses. Trump has the unique ability to make unsympathetic people seem however briefly sympathetic. People who see this as a mission. They see this as a i president who is kind of plastic. John bolton with a long career as being a hawk look at him as an empty vessel. This instant teaches us that can backfire. It can. It is not a totally wrong discussion. He doesnt read his daily briefings or a lot of background on most things. They are not crazy but as weve played out time and time again. Unless the president is emotionally tied through demonstrating blind loyalty, he wont listen at all. I think bolton probably had significantly more influence on Decision Making when he was an onair commentator. Whenever there is an opening, a short list comes out. We know where that list is coming from. That is part of the reason even after they leave, they stay in that tore toured relationship. There is not a lot of jobs to be had after. Republicans who have lived and worked in washington for a long time really dont want to be hiring people from the Trump Administration because they do request their judgement. To that point, an aspect about who is advising the president. Someone on fox news by the way, i didnt know if we could say that network. Sooner or later, it will be shawn hannity. It was Tucker Carlson who took that stance months ago. That clearly influenced the president s thinking. It is scarey when we talk about the president not reading these briefings. We thought john bolton would be able to influence the president on iran, on venezuela. It turns out not. Hes the only one that makes the decision. Nobody else is able to influence. It is incredibly flightening to have john bolton and frightening to not have him. There is a host of International Issues developing where a president would want to have somebody in that capacity coalescing. Especially when we are outing spies that recently have left russia when brexit is unfolding and the uk is falling apart. The president is unable to understand these more difficult issues. He takes these overseas trips and is asked about the west issues and he thinks we are talking about california issues. We are going to come back go ahead. Remember, the president knows more than all his generals. 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He said he is fed up with the president s white superiority complex and has had enough of the denigrating of black people. Let me ask you how much you think about that moment back in 2016. What your reaction was at the time. At the time, we were having fun. I was being a heckler. A joke that turned into a sour joke. I made the statement and raised my hand to say i was here. Everyone around me was laughing that it was funny. It turned into a different story. What led to you change your mind. I know there were the comments about four freshman in congress. What was it about these reecent incidents that made you change your position . A series of events. If there was one more than another, it would be the kaepernick taking a knee incident. Where he called kaepernick and others an s. O. B. He wouldnt call putin or north Korean Leader an s. O. B. That was something i could not tolerate. Would you call him a racist . Is that a word you are comfortable using to describe this president . No. In my era. Racism and being a racist entailed a history of violence and hatred. I dont know that President Trump hates black people. With white superiority complex, there is the feeling of that. I dont see hatred in this administration. That is something fiercely debated. Your reaction to that. The distinction. I think the words of the president are leading us to a place where ricist is prevalent. I love the Colin Kaepernick situation. You have a talented athlete who chose to take a stand for equal rights. Im wandering if maybe gregory is surprised on the Chilling Effect this administration has had on activists and quality in america. I am more disappointed we are at this level today. We are in 2019 and race is a major issue with the president to be grandstanding the way he is, it is disconcerting and dispointing. I mentioned you are running for congress. Youve done that before. How do we begin to repair this . How does the rebuilding begin . How do you see this changing . I dont think the president is going to do anything to make a change. I think we the people have to come together and make a change. We have to get legislation and policies in order that will allow for a decrease in the wedge gap. We have to have homeowners and those with trump the white superiority complex. When you look at the sentencing of blacks, there is a great disparity. As it is right now, that spells a death note for black people in the criminal justice system. Gregory, you remember that moment. I would think the president would remember as well. There was a moment this week a reporter asked him about it. He professed not to know you. In the face of being accused of racist, he goes to unemployment numbers, the state of the icon my and how blacks and africanamericans are doing today . Your reaction to that . The president knows who i am. I corresponded with him. He sent me a letter. The whole thing with the way the president deals with reality is of concern. The black unemployment numbers. That is a perversion of data. We have more blacks unemployed today than ever. When you look at the incarceration of black folk, there are millions of black folk right now who cannot get a job or get benefits because of their record, whether it be drugs or whatever, because they were locked up. They cant have access. We have millions of black men and women who cannot get a job. Thats not taken into his number. Thank you for your time. Good luck. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Quickly here, i want to ask you about this. When you have somebody like gregory come out and say this. I dont think anything greg is saying is particularly new information. I have to say, for me, i still have the question of like, how did you support him for three years and be called my africanamerican as it was now called was playing around or heckling or whatever he said. I support his move and agree with a lot of what he was saying about like manipulation of unemployment. 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Telling the leader of national intelligence. Hes the winner of survivor. He said there are confidentially privileged information by persons outside the Intelligence Community. That was his reason for not handing over the information. That has no basis inlaw. The bigger story here is how influential is this administration in places it shouldnt be. We know the Justice Department has become incredibly politicised. If our Intelligence Community is becoming political, that is in many ways dangerous. A lot of people are looking at these reports saying why did they go to the Justice Department. The Justice Department is being regarded in a different way than it has in the past. The dni staff is worried enough to seek outside council. Straung that that outside council is from the Justice Department. Very strange. My first thought is, who is this going to in the Justice Department . We are seeing an erosion of trust in institutions we should have trust in because of this loyalty to this president. In my opinion, the Justice Department, Homeland Security has become so heavily political, it is hard to trust their judgement and who they are trusting, who they are seeking council from and who they will and will not prosecute. Trump keeps bringing back up clinton and obama saying he wants to go back after them. The deadline for this on the 17th. Here we are again. Your sense of where things go from here. It all goes back to the first question around bolton. The appointees are so obsessed with making it okay in their eyes that these loopholes do not exist. Theyll not follow the deadline or meet with the chairman that they want. You are afraid of the ig at all times. The fear of breaking federal law was overwhelming. 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There was a long conversation on health care, Foreign Policy, gun policy, what is the issue you would have been raising your hand high . A did a live stream of my own through my website afterwards in order to present my case and the things i would have said. The problem i had. This is not a fault of the candidates at all. The very fact that we are talking about what is happening in america at this critical time. In way that one person has a little time to talk. I have a problem with the entire nature of the debate system. I was glad to have an opportunity to give a bigger explanation about my feelings about a more just economy. I had a deeper conversation about war and peace, which was not on the stage. About children and traumatized children and Child Poverty and a deeper conversation about race, which was not on the stage. There is a deeper conversation about many in america that was not necessarily in that debate at all. How much does this next debate mart. We learned it will be in ohio about a month from today. There was an article written by a democratic in iowa. He said we dont need the dnc to come here and tell us who we need to consider. This is all artificial, really. The role of the democratic as well as republican political establishments is to facilitate, not dictate. What matters is the voters. I t i think voters need more time. I know youve said there are poles that say they want to narrow it. This is one of the most critical votes in our lifetimes and in the history of the United States. Look what you were talking about in the segment before. These are very, very serious issues. Democrats have to think in terms of not only where america wants to go but who would be best to beat donald trump, which is where i feel i have a lot to say. This is not time to shut this down. This is time to give the voters an opportunity to think deeply, reflectively and make wise choizs. What is your path Going Forward. You mention live streaming. What does the path forward look like to you . I imagine you have talked to skeptics but the system is what the system is and a matter of months before the primaries, maybe there isnt a way for to you get through that . Obviously. I wouldnt say im trying to get around the party apparatus. Lets think about the constitution. They dont even mention political parties. George washington warned us against all of that. Im talking to voters. Weve turned voters into spectators or poker chips. It is not that im trying to get around the party system but i am trying to have a deeper conversation that is more meaning 23u8 and real. I just the voters. I will get out when i feel i have made my case to the voters so they have an opportunity of the agenda im bauking talking about. Im in. Im having a conversation. As long as people are showing up and continue to go to marian 2020. Com and fund my campaign because i want a deeper conversation about the basics of our economy, about children, about war and peace, about race and about Climate Change and what we need to do to have a green century. As long as people say, you go, girl. Im going. Doesnt matter what the dnc says. Finally, ill ask you. W

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