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committee get it done. make sure it gets directed to the police commission office. it will be put in safe keeping point we had last time in terms of the confidentiality of the applicants. we have the aspiration of getting the final posting next week. more on that next wednesday night. if you establish a committee, you will have to me o on this. you should not establish a committee to work on it. you should appoint one person to be in charge of the process and that can work with less than a quorum. i think that that makes sense. we are ready to go. i will contact the commissioner. the goal is for the commissioner to get this to the department of human-resources. there is not a change in the dates and salary. public comment on this issue. land the director of san francisco open government. i think you know what mine opinion will be, how much is open and how much is put into this personnel. i would like to add on to the comment in the haste makes waste category. what it says to me is that if you put out of these time frames looking at a job that you have for only six or seven months, many of the top-qualified candidates would not apply. someone who is out there and is not qualified is in a position of trust and they will not want to take the chance of moving here. what this does is that it limits it primarily to officers in the san francisco police department. if they accept had positioned and the new mayor says that they are not satisfied, there is so low service protection without any real lack. at some point, that limits the candidate said he will get outside of the community. you just read a list of things that you looked at the last time the not for the public. we have no idea what you are reading. what i heard read sounded very vague and very nonspecific and most members of the public would have no idea when you save those things. i would like questions relating to issues that have been in the press and in the public eye for a while and how you will ask those questions. problems with a lack of disclosure to the defense council relating to officers that will testify in the previous testimony and so forth. there has been a number of issues that have come up and you see them in the paper. the best example i can think of is which went away for years. i don t think that anyone knows what happened. two of the officers said a lot of court. i don t know what the city ended up on the hook for that. to me, this whole process should be out in the open. the only things that really qualify as a personnel is a review of the resmae and application. you should have a clear objective before you go in. good evening, i am the new co-chair of the palace has been part of the community for nearly 40 years. one of the first things that you mentioned is community input and community perspective. i would like to personally say that i would appreciate the commissioners perspective as well as others on having some more public comment related. i recognize that you did a great amount of work a year and a half ago. a lot changes over that time. within the police department as well as without. a great many things have changed. we have a whole new world out there and new concerns and issues and new commissioners that we would love to have here. i hear a lot about the political in line but i am concerned about the community reality for this process and making sure that our community is heard. thank you very much. commissioners, good evening. i have been a resident of this county for 42 years. i have seen this before. i don t see what the rush is to get a new police chief. the last one was so incompetent that you made a big mistake. threw out any job as police chief anywhere and he came back to just get a paycheck. the longer it takes you to pick a police chief, the better off you ll be. i would not rely on some think tank, that is a big waste of time and money. my suggestion is to stick with your rank-and-file police officers and even then have them vote on the new police chief. i think you should think about what you are doing, not just for yourselves but for the public at large in the city because so far what i have seen is that the past spectrum of commissioners have been doing an inadequate job. that is not just my opinion. you have seen that it is pretty much stated. you see a lot of political theater going on rather than decision making. i would ask you to spend your time picking someone and let the rank and file click on this. i spoke here a year ago and i was very impressed at the compilation of the document request and that it is given to me in a timely manner. the other has not done so. on an investigation and a complete against the officers, they botched the whole investigation from day one by losing the documents and resubmitting the request. the third time they came up with an issue or no reason to complain or whatever. then i d do my own investigation and find that the officer has more problems than jumping jack flash. i would like the office of citizen complaints to comply with my request. good evening, commissioner spent soms. i have a degree in theology and i fought with the german military. that is beside the point right now. i would like to implore this body to choose a police chief and they do so very cautiously. there is also the unique systems we re like the united nations right here in san francisco. someone who has experience running a big city police department. there are many others out there. i am somewhat concerned that their might be a rush to get someone in their. but i think that that might not be as prudent. we don t want to have problems down the road. i think the best way to proceed, i would like to think the commissioner for their time and effort and thank you very much. thank you. i am speaking on the council. we have been part of the community for seven years or so. i had a series of questions that we would like to pose to the candidates. this will also come in writing. what safeguards will be used to protect community members? how will the next chief increased transparency. i 8 hope that we are providing for some of these questions. how will the next chief work with the board of supervisors to help san francisco opt out of the committee s? how can the next chief say that the rights will be maintained? asking the applicants opinion regarding the counter-terrorism bureau proposal. do you use the u.s. census bureau data, and other demographic information to map muslim community is in it an effort to attend a fine hotbeds of extremism. this was a proposal out of los angeles and there are questions about whether or not this promotes the ability of people which may enjoy their freedom of speech and beginning deep racial profiling which is not a good road to go down. how will the training which officers be accomplished? one of the things that i heard earlier was the cost of the training. this is millions. i work in the mental health side chair richard ward in san francisco. i work in the national security and civil-rights program. we sent you questions in a letter. the issue that we have been trying to convey which is to ask the commission to take away the rights from the middle eastern and south asian community. the way this can about it is following the march 2010 comments that were made when they portrayed as the entire middle east and community as a terrorist threat. the civil rights abuses that happened are not as well-known. , neither are the sole rights abuses and degradation and essentially human rights abuses that happened on a daily basis. a lot of this is unconscious bias. stepping back, i can see why there is not a lot of awareness of these issues. one of the main things the coalition has been trying to do is to raise this awareness. we have been successful working with the human rights commission. some focus on community concerns around surveillance by law enforcement and civil and religious profiling. the report coming out of that hearing with the official findings and recommendations will be coming out and about two weeks but we showed some of the things that kept coming out and the main concerns and maine encounters and experiences of the committee was that there is a consistent infiltration by law enforcement personnel and also customs and border patrol. this happens in people s homes. this coupled with the comments that were made and we re still dealing with the fallout from it. i have been really encouraged hearing the summary of the process that they went through the first time around and i am wondering what the connect is on putting all of this energy into the process and having someone who is able to attack the committee in such an ugly and discriminatory way. but we can do to make sure that this time around, the energy really to align thank-you. shut u the characteristics thu wanted to see, some person that was an agent of change. i could deal with that population. i work in san francisco helping arab and muslim students and one of the concerns that we saw was that arabs and muslims were more likely to it to terrorist attacks in the city. this was put on the front page of the chronicle and the examiner. high-school kids were afraid of what was going on the person who said this was the chief of police, a high-ranking law- enforcement officer in the city. we need to make sure that the next chief of police will not make the same mistakes. you said he met with committee members, organizations. i want to know if you went to any mosques? did you reach out to the muslim community and see what their concerns were? my main concern is that the next chief of police does not target arabs and moslems. we want someone who will better protect us call the the target test better protect us, not target us. we did meet with many members of different religious groups. it went well. i encourage you to come to one of our community meetings. i don t know if any were invited to that meeting. we had a meeting which was during the process at st. mary s cathedral and the invitations went out we hit everyone, i guarantee you. we had everyone there. sometimes it is heart for mosques to go to these events because they are afraid of law enforcement. i would like to have more of a dialogue and have a personal invitation. thank you. is there any further public comment? public comment is closed. we have a march 15th date for the time line to get up to three names to the mayor and then as we announced tonight, the application is open so we need to set a date from 14 days that the job posting has been sent out. we can probably set a date now for 14 days from friday. is that fair. start applying now and sending your cover letter. we will start the process from their. to we have a vote on setting the date? this can certainly be extended. clearly. if we get it done before then. that is up to the mayor. commissioners, do i have a motion regarding those dates? so moved. seconded. thank you very much. members of the public may address the police commission determined by the chair on items with that are within the jurisdiction of the commission but did not appear on the agenda. is there any further public comment this evening? members of the commission, san francisco open the government. i have four complaints against the police commission. i a will be honest with you, the whole person in me has always along the lines that at some point someone would have picked up the phone and called me and said that what happened probably is not right. i will not try to explain what happened and i and stand at the message. and i understand the message. what i found is that there is never anyone who was really in to make an admission that perhaps they did not act in the best way or take responsibility for their own behavior. one of the things i have always observed is that you can delegate responsibility but you cannot delegate accountability. if i delegate the jobs and it is of their failure and i will have to answer to the fact that i delegated and they failed and what they did. the same thing goes with participating in boards. if it turns out to be a mistake, i think my tendency is simply to a acknowledge that and say i made a mistake and i of learned from the mistake. what i find with the city and the boards is that they force you through the whole process. all you are doing is that you are standing up your rights under the sun shine ordinance. i ve met i have yet to meet one individual to said that they made a mistake and they will take responsibility. i have no desire to sit through months of postpone hearings and so forth. my objective is only to make sure that these things are understood. unfortunately, i have to continue with these complaints for the sold matter and i have to get fifth body to make adjustments and to say that that was wrong so i can at least have that. unfortunately, even in those cases, i found bodies for the individual has said that i don t care that they found me in violation or that they sent this to the ethics commission, i will sit here and pretend like it never happened. is there any further public comment? a hearing nine, item five. hearing none, item five. are there any announcements? with reference to scheduling of items identified for consideration for future commission meetings, i spoke with the commissioners regarding the presentation which goes back to what we were talking about earlier and up separating and separating tasters. my suggestion is that we move this two weeks and remove the mental health issue discussion and presentation into this slot which is set for february 9th. jetblue and that is a two-week split. i don t think that this would make a big difference. they re padded together a presentation but i think this is important. some people are not able to do that. let s start with a mental health issues and decide separately and apart from the whole issue on whether or not a taser is an effective tool for officers to deal with my let individuals and people under the influence. do i have an agreement? the very night would be the mental health presentation. than two weeks from there, is there let s stay on our agenda is given that we will be out in that community quite a bit. it is a lot of fun and interesting. if we can switch that to the 23rd. i