Transcripts For SFGTV BOS Special Govt Audits And Oversight

SFGTV BOS Special Govt Audits And Oversight Committee 11217 January 13, 2017

Before a new Committee Structure the chair of this Committee Aaron pes kin joined by supervisor breed to my left. Our clerk is major. Do you have any announcements . Yes please silence all devices cards should be submitted to the clerk. Items acted upon will appear on the agenda unless otherwise stated. Thank you can you please call the first item . Yes the first is to hear presentations from the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency on the citys onstreet car sharing. Thank you mrs. Major. I called this hearing i have been contemplating it quite some time i called this hearing before the winter break to hear more about the mtas onstreet Car Sharing Program anecdotally as i was walking the streets of district three for the better part of six months leading up to the november 2015 election i not only saw more and more of these designated spots popping up. But hearing from the constituents on the north east county of San Francisco. And wanted to do for the board of supervisors what has happened now on a number of occasions in the nuance Transportation Agency commission which is to one, get a presentation from mta staff about the program and two, ask questions that constituents have been asking me and see if we can Work Together to make sure this is optimized in a way that sees the benefits that the program does bring without the inconvenience to our residents. So, there are some demonstratable benefits we can quibble if the numbers are accurate. There is no question when cars are utilized more thoroughly by more different people that that can lead to getting folks to not buy cars and get cars off the street. While i might quibble with the magnitude of the numbers the mta presents i think thats a truth. There are other factors to take into account we have pioneered in the north east corner of the city. Decades ago a residentual Parking Program in many parts of the city is over subscribed and is paid for by residents so they can park in most cases more than two hours in residential neighborhood throughout the city. The reason north beach has the a permits is because many decades ago Pilot Program became the first residential parking permit area in the city. We have the bs and cs because compluters would drive from marin and take the bus to where the jobs are in downtown. And there are nuances in the dawn of 21st century in the quote unquote sharing industries in the new tech world we live in where certain players play by the rules and certain players push the rules as they do so, in their disruptive Business Model disrupt more and more every day San Franciscoians lives i will be asking specific questions about that. Why dont we start by giving mr. Andy thornly from the San Francisco mta the floor. I know you have a power point. We will go through it quickly so we dont bore everybody to tears it is helpful then we will ask you a bunch of questions then i will welcome vice chair norman y yee. Committee members members of the public im getting my presentation here. Im wrestling with the technology maybe its better if i close this and reopen it. Hello. For heaven sakes maximize. Lets start again. Im andy thornily from the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency thank you for allowing us to share about our onstreet Car Sharing Program and help us understand what were learning about perhaps lets go to the laptop and i will talk through this presentation quickly. To remind you what you already know the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency is the citys transportation provider and steward of about 900 miles of curb were the folks with the unenviable job of refereeing how that curb is used for parking bus stops or transits. Google buses. Buses of all sorts. I like to park my bike at bike racks on that curb. And in charge of supporting safe sustainable trips we do that with muni but seeing how it fits together whether you drive bike or take a motorcycle. Let me tell you about the car share pilot we have been conducting the past couple of year and dive into this. We will do this expeditiously to get to questions and conversation. When you say the last couple of years my understanding is the inception is five years ago. No actually i will dive into it. In 2011 the mta took up this question. We already have in policy i think the transit first and city charter says we will prioritize nonsingle occupant single vehicle trips the Strategic Plan is something we want to promote and expand in 2011 we under took an experiment putting 12 city car sharing vehicles in San Francisco in conventional Parking Spaces with the condition that city car sharing should share data with us to see how the performance of that went. That pilot was small. 12 Parking Spaces by our estimate, 200,000. Parking space in San Francisco. That pilot was successful you could learn from parking space in 2015 we went to our board saying this is promising were not ready to use it as an ongoing Operational Program lets do a bigger experiment so the mta approved a larger pilot that would take more than one car sharing provider try perhaps hundreds of Parking Spaces and we would not only test the policy soundness of this idea but logistical street sweeping and so forth to quickly review for public and others the idea of car sharing as you said peskin at the start of this extensive peer review Academic Research has found over and over again car sharing is a benefit by reducing private owner vehicles congestion and for all neighbors in the community. And relieving parking demand to the extent we can have fewer cars on the road. Our board approved in 2013. In 2014 we got going without starting to place car sharing vehicles on the street. And since early 2014 this larger pilot has been in operation eeffectively two years. Mr. Thornily, supervisor yee has a question. Yes. This is going to be in the presentation later, can you explain when you talked about reducing congestion and emissions especially emissions how do you conclude that . Yeah. This isnt just the mtas notion this is research over and over again. The premise if we can make available to neighbors a car that multiple neighbors can use, presumably, multiple neighbors wont need their own car if five neighbors are using one car you have one car instead of five cars and other is certifications proceed from that. If there are fewer cars around there are four fewer cars congestioning the street. Thats where i didnt get the logic. Yeah. Im just curious. Sure. You can have five neighbors using a car. They will be using it at different times when they need it when they dont need it they have individual cars they wouldnt be using it either. So i dont understand the logic. How does it reduce ewe . You have to look at the particular of how cars are being used. To the extent that multiple users get to use a single car presumably that reduces the number of cars in the street second the pay as you go notion this city im proud to say has adopted users with fewer shopping bags. You presume it i dont snochlt how do you presume it . Perhaps i can shorthand this by saying Academic Researchers all over the world particular already here in the bay area uc berkeley has a Sustainability Research center mr. Shane and martin repeatedly done Peer Reviewed Academic Research to this topic they and other researches have found over and over again to the extent you provide car sharing to a Community Folks are driving less because theyre using fewer cars every time they use the car they pay a little bit theyre thinking about the use of that car just as we now when we go to the Grocery Store dont get shopping bags without thinking about it you are asked about it if i do, i have to pay a dime by making think ability every use they use less of it. Same with driving people are thinking about how much they need and tend to use less of it. Again, Academic Research we would be happy to share this with your office to show you where that thought is coming from. If you have that research its not real long. Yeah. Of course. So back to this pilot at hand the framework for the pilot we launched a couple of years ago is based on a definition of transportation code of car sharing transportation collect and share data with the mta. Terms of as i said street cleaning that sort of stuff. This map we divided the city into three. So we can have primitive means to having these things in neighborhoods not just district three. If we left it to Car Sharing Companies they would go where its good. We wanted to try this out in the bay view. You have to put a minimum number of these things 15 of them in soern two at 15 of them in zone three. Its a very primitive tool meant to spread this around town so we cannot only provide this to all neighbors in neighborhoods but watch the effects of this. We had standard review and noticing process and we can talk more about that. How did we select the locations how did the review go . How was the approval. In the end, we qualified three participants to participate in the pilot city car share get around, and zip car. To go right to what we learned we had 200 Parking Spaces across the city. Supervisor peskin walked passed them i hope some have encountered these 200 across the city sharing data and generating data for the mta what we found was not unexpectedly these got a fair amount of use. A right to one of the most important things we found over the 200 spaces we have been watching this the average of a car sharing space had 19 users using it. So 19 folks in the neighborhood. We compare that to the average u. S. Car with 1 or 2 users so that metric is interesting to us were curious to hear your take on that too. So andy, the period, the 200 spots went online when and the period of data you are sharing with us is for what period . The first of these was implemented in 2014 because of review and implementation delays we didnt instantly have 200 of them. By the time we got to april 2015 we had basically 200 of them in place up and running. For the sake of analysis, we have taken. April 15th to 2016 as a full year of data for those spaces. That is what we have been using to analyze the use of these spaces. They are still out there. The pilot is effectively done. Were bringing our findings were sharing a preview here to our board of directors next friday at our policy and governance committee. Our board of directors will then in a month or two take up the question of whether to adopt a Permanent Program abandon this idea or something else. So i want to emphasize this is not an operational permit program the spaces out there are pilot space if our board was not pleased we would undo them but this is only a piet lot not an Operational Program. I would love to let you finish but in so far as the original pilot pilot of 12 car share spaces over the period of some time in 14 to april of 15 or there abouts, gross to 200 spaces the list you gave my staff is now over 500 spaces. Right. The list we supplied for folks viewing at home, at the start of this larger pilot in 2013, we asked any interested entity car sharing organization to approach us with their credentials and make their case for participates we had 53 to participate we had heres a box of imaginary pins in a google map where would you place vehicles n part of this pilot . We ended up with 450 proposed locations i should back up and say the pilot for the sake of ceqa was cleared for 900 Parking Spaces for the duration of the pilot we have an exemption as many as 900 spaces we started with 450 proposals the list your office received is the universe of 450 locations of which 200 ultimately came to be on the ground. I think thats a useful thing to look at im glad to have this point elevated. Because the process of converting through the 450 resulted in many locations moved and retalked and abandoned. Some came forward and had a public hearing and ultimately legislative implementation a few were moved or changed but possibly of the 90450 we looked at, 200 ended up on the ground. When you say legislative you are saying the mta Commission Approves each and every one of these in a public hearing. That is right. There is a public hearing as there is for any traffic or street change whether a stop sign or subway there is a review process we followed for this internal review cross Agency Review reck and park we post notices have a public hearing take it onto our board and legislative action for the curb use. When you say that a nearby utility poll . Yes. We did what im saying expedition full process for curb this is nothing different we would do for a street change or approval. Lit be in our full report heres a log of all of the hearings heres a log of the mta actions that resulted in the 200 sum spaces that went out there. Its a side issue i will raise it while its fresh in my mind which is the mta both somewhat new and yet has been a long Standing Agency in the world of notice. I think and john ram if you are listening im paying a compliment to the planning department. The Gold Standard for notice is planning. I have to say as somebody who lives on filbert street when one popped up on filbert and grant yeah it could have been on a telephone poll every day i go home and get noticed in my mailbox because i live within 150 or 300 feet of proposed project for planning. The neighborhood organizations whether north beach or russian hill get the same kind of notice. I dont want to say with 100 certainty i will say with 95 certainty none of the neighborhood groups that are the clearing houses get that same kind of notice from the mta or at least as it relates to this program for what its worth. Your comment is noted and taken to heart. I share your frustration on behalf of the mta we need to do a better job everything the agency done. Collin dilon is here. I see hes writing furiously. Yeah we take it to heart. It makes our job harder to not adequately talk to the neighbors and it is within our interest to do that. We did want to have these things out generating data so we can come back to you and others on board to say heres what we learned. So we did strike a balance than it might fully have been. Our program adopts is a robust thoughtful out reach process and your thoughts and thoughts of your constituents on that. Before we take parking and change it. Not to put too fine of a point on it you have proposed self selected spot that were widdled down to 200 with the year of data. After that, were adigal spots added . Did that cap at 200, boom thats everything we got today. Thank you for that question, yes in deed we stopped putting it out there because its a pilot. When we got to last august or earlier we had a closed set. We had a box of spots to look at. Yes, again, not an Operational Program. We just wanted to establish a minimum amount of locations to generate there have not been any new locations established since basically i guess it would be last summer. Great question thank you for that. Thank you. Again to dwell on data before we talk about process and logistics to get to that. The average monthly unique users is a data point we find interesting for the folks at home sorry its tiny we have a full report on our Website Next Week of the 200 or so spaces these were the locations best performers for average monthly unique users its impossible to see but some of these have 62 people every month using them which is remarkable heres a map of the city with the unique users per month. Bigger circles are better you will see the big blue circles in the north east corner of town we have an average of 50 unique users each month using those cars we are seeing in the outer sunset we have cars out there used by lots of people every month which is what were looking for. Average hours of daily use the u. S. Car is used very little. An hour a day perhaps. We see these car share cars being used of upwards of eight hours a day or more on average. We may say do we want a lot of people driving a lot . It goes to supervisor yees question of substituting one car for another. It is Academic Research if you got a tool meant to be used by the public having that be used a fair amount by a lot of people is better than one car being used not much. Again, keen to have your thoughts on that but that is the theory. Andy, as to this map i realize some of these have multiple locations nearby this doesnt seem to reflect 200. Yeah in some cases there are double. So we have 200 some spaces collapsing down because theyre pairs. And just to interrupt myself, putting one car on a street has some utility putting two cars you have a Network Effect as i watched these things the double pods uses more utility a neighbor sees them that is interesting i can see that if the car is never there they get discouraged we have two for a Network Effect. So all 200 are on this map . Yes. Thank you. Because of the scale its hard to pull this apart we have all of this data for the public to look at. Other things we found to remind everybody we have a full evaluation to bring to our board at the end of next week. Some of the highlights as i said we have three car sharing organizations participating we have some of them here listening. You

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