It looks like we are arresting people from San Francisco, at least the newspaper is reporting it that way. And for me it would be, i mean the burglary that happened in pacific heights, where was it, this one over the weekend, the man was from outside the city. So i really want to know whos coming into San Francisco to commit crimes and have, you know, traffic stops, whatever it happens to be, because i dont want us to look like we are doing, doing it to our population. And so i would want you to add that information in your data gathering as to where these people live, where they are coming from, i mean the statistics that i heard a while back, and i dont have present data, but youth crime, for example, in this city, the majority of youth crime in the city is committed by kids from outside the city. So we need to gather that data. That would be very important for me because i hate to see, you know, people comparing apples and oranges. We are not comparing apples and apples. We were just speaking about that today. We capture the data of the district of occurrence and the Police District but perhaps we in addition need to collect zip code data because we get that from anybody we issue a citation to, if it starts with a 941 or Something Else other than that. And some identification around whether you are arresting or stopping duplicates. I mean, you know, the same person being arrested or stopped twice in a period of time because can be gathering data on the same person. On the occurrences maybe. So we actually met with james bell of the Burns Institute and his big encouragement of us is you just have to keep digging because the data, and i have to congratulate lieutenant para, to do he came up with all this raw data, he did a lot of analysis and hes a Police Officer. The author of the article is an analyst and did his story on the 1700 consent searches but discounted the 317,000 in the aggregate, so i think that was important but whats also important is were trying to work actually with the dmv because we want to match this up against licensed drivers, at least licensed drivers in the city, because thats a number we seems to not be available from the dmv, so i think when these citations come we will have more accurate data, we will have more realtime data, well be able to tell how many stops are replicated by the same person but we will continue to dig, continue to scrape the strainer to get to whatever and as captain heart said, when you get to consent searches and you find this disparity were putting the fix in or were at least erring on the side of caution that were going to train to it as if it is what it looks like but even try to dig more to find out is that what it is or can it be explained or is it more pronounced in certain districts, which is another thing we talked about at the Burns Institute. Because citywide Everybody Knows that each district is particular to itself both by demographics and by the cultures of those districts. So and were training our recruits to that right now by having them visit those places around the city, more cultural competency from the leaders of those communities. Well continue to dig, continue to impress upon the lieutenant to continue producing reports and getting the bad news on this report was 2013 data isnt as good as 2015 data but the good news is 2016 is going to be better than that and 2017 should be better still. Commissioner mazzucco. Thank you very much. Captain heart, thank you. I know you do an excellent job teaching search and seizure, when i was in the United StatesAttorneys Office you were very well respected for the Court Appearances you made. You are a very good lawyer. Im very proud of some of our office remembers, well have another captain speaking tonight whos actually a doctor so we have some very well trained and educated officers. With reference to the data, i agree with commissioner melara, at one point there was a concern with drug arrests in the city and what wie found when we dug deep on the data, a significant number of the drug arrests were folks that were not from San Francisco, they had come in off bart or drove across the bridge and were for various reasons were trafficking narcotics in the city. So i think its very important that we dig down and get that statistic, its very important. Commissioner dejesus. I understand that we have a lot of raw data and i know its very hard to retrieve. The auditor when he was doing audits on the Police Department said we skip raw data but we dont have it in a fashion we can readily read it. When we were doing whether there was the bias in policing and things like that that was hard to retrieve. So thats been an issue for a while now. And i believe the obamas 21st Century Policing talks about different areas to track, you can pull it out and its easier to track. Its a good first start but theres issues with this. When you go back to look at all the arrests, we need to have the 317,290 arrests. Arrests . Excuse me, total stops. 317,290 stops, i misspoke there. It would be interesting if we could see the race the age and the address for all stops. Because you have down 58 percent of whites in this total. 38 percent. But we dont know if thats for assistance to motorists or traffic collisions or duis, we dont know where it falls. Im more interested in knowing whos been stopping for moving violations or suspicious stops that can be very important when you are looking for bias. I would be interested it know on the high risk stops how many are minorities, how many are mexican or latinos or African Americans and if it shows they all are or many of them are, thats an area that needs to be examined. We may look at an issue and say thats not accurate or is not accurate and we need to do more work there. I was wondering on the consent searches, how many of them were let me start all over again. I know when ive gone on ridealongs in the mission and i know that many times theres a higher conservation, especially when theres a shooting, theres a higher concentration of officers in the mission and we go in and people are stopped for broken taillights, things hanging from their mirrors, a broken wing, and im wondering how many of those stops from these technical violations resulted in either a mandatory search or a consent search. Those are the things id like to know too because i know the more concentration of police in an area that makes them more easy or makes it more available for more contact with the citizens. And we dont have that in nob hill, we dont have a high concentration of police. Because of that i would like to know how many of those are consensual, how many are mandatory and how many people are being stopped in those areas. This is a good start but as you said its just the one stat you are able to pull out is reviewing and for what reason we dont know, but you certainly do need to followup on that. We certainly do need to gather the rest of the information for all these stops and we can look at it and pull it out and see. We can certainly do that and we will continue the data dig, but i do want to make a comment on high risk stops. High risk stops are usually determined by the nature of the vehicle itself not the people necessarily in the vehicle. So if an officer is making a high risk stop, thats because somebody has put out a plate and or a vehicle description and attached high risk to it. So whoever happens to be in that car, thats not the officer exercising autonomy when they make that high risk stop, they are told, hey, theres a robbery, armed vehicle, theres a robbery vehicle, homicide vehicle, Something Like that. So the officers are exercising caution in making those stops, not subjectively but objectively. So i get that. But we nreed to know that. If theres a mandatory doj stop and what that race is and whos there we need to know that. But the way i saw the code it was suspicious vehicle and maybe im reading it there suspicious vehicle and high risk stop. Maybe those should be broken out into different categories but i read a suspicious vehicle as more of a terry stop and a high risk stop as doj we need to look at it, when we say a high risk stop per the doj, kind of a required stop, whether its implicit bias or not implicit bias. We have a lot of this information, we need to start categorizing it and we need to have reports so we can see where it falls, race, age, address and the type of stop. Commissioner marshall dr. Marshall. Thank you for the report. A couple things come to mind. Do all cities jurisdictions collect data differently . I would assume that they do or is this a is there a uniform way of collecting this data i guess is my. You mean other Police Departments, how they do it . Yeah, los angeles, sacramento, chicago. Well, there will be. I dont know about the other ones. I cant speak to them. It would be interesting to see just how San Francisco compares to other cities. And i know when this has come up in the past it was difficult because even if i ask for that, it would be the same because not everybody collects it. I would hope we get the uniform way of doing it, especially is there a i understand commissioner dejesus, you can only collect on the field that you enter into it in the first place. Correct. Is there a model somewhere that you like in some city because especially as were going through the whole best practice thing and trying to come up with, is there a model you have seen that you like that you think hits on just about all the things were talking about here . The e citation doesnt exist anywhere so we will be the first agency to do e citations and having realtime data. Since that program is in the development we can make it do what we want it to do. Rather than make up the categories i was wondering if there is someone who has a model, you may come back next time and it doesnt have what somebody else wants to see. Is there a certain city that. For instance, on a citation, so right now this is 3 years worth of data, right . So if were writing 120,000 citations a year and also our warnings will also go into the e citation program, those citations have whats on all citations. So there will be a zip code, those fields, every field on those documents will be searchable and batchable. If you wanted to know how many stops were made in a certain zip code you could search for that. I guess what im saying its got to be a work in progress. Nobody has yet come up with this is the way to do it. Even if it has, it sounds like it even if it has it seems other things you want to pursue have come up. Thats what i was asking. At this point i was looking at you may be going all over the country trying to find the best way to do this. I think you made the best point. Numbers may never get us 100 percent of it but when we engage the community we know now the new standard wasnt whether the stop was lawful but does the subject believe p the stop was legitimate that they were esteemed and treated with respect. Its easy to say how many traffic stops do an officer make, its harder to say what is your engagement and your willingness and your drive. But we are training to that higher ideal. Were not talking about whats lawful in terms of evidence, were talking about is it the right thing, upholding and defending everyones Constitutional Rights. I can tell you, dr. Joe, there was a state bill passed ab 953 that requires all departments to provide information on arrests. The department has to provide that next year. Everyone is working toward shared metd tricks. The conversation is everyone is aware we need better information and the department is attempting to follow those rules but also make sure we have data specific for San Francisco. One other thing, on the consent searches, im just wondering, im looking at the number of black consent searches. Im wondering if that number is affected by the fact that they could have said no. I dont know if a lot of them understand you dont necessarily have to consent to the search which might have brought those numbers down if they just consented anyway. Or if they ask consent and they said no and we strictly adhere to that, that data would not be captured. I can tell you some of the times when you work the saturation things and theres a spike in violence and you make a stop on someone you know they will actually say, they will say, i dont have anything in my car, search me. And that would be a consent search. That may be an education piece, i talk to folks all the time and they dont know if they have to consent, dont have to consent, i was just looking at that number and seeing how that may factor into it. One of the greatest frustrations i have had on my service on the commission has been dealing with race data. I want to thank you for your presentation and i want to thank you in particular for the portion where you said we are concerned by this data and it gives us pause and we want to do Something Different and we want to find out whats going on here. Because over the years there have been so many damning reports that suggest this report is doing policing based on bias as a conclusion and i think that for a number of reasons which because i spent a lot of time asking these questions over the years, have to do with antiquated systems and failure of systems, that is an aspect of it but i have not often heard what i heard from you, were concerned and were going to keep looking at this. Because i dont believe its apples to oranges on these consent searches. Its very clearly one race African Americans in particular are getting searched and agreeing to search for any number of reasons and i think that that is troubling to you all and i think thats right. It certainly was troubling to me in part because the next piece is why is that, right, and i appreciate what you were saying. Good police work is not the enemy here. Good police work is not the enemy, but bias is. So how do we root out that bias, i think its because he referred to attorney general reno, who is like a personal hero of mine, john crew pointed out earlier in order to not castigate everybody we have to know what the problems are. Like with opd and the dashboard and you can identify early on theres a problem there you can take some effort to intervene. And i just want to say, we spent some time talking about procedural justice last time but in this effort i know the chief and many members of the department weve been studying implicit bias and its this buzz word that gets kicked around. But the researchers and the academics are very clear its not the new way to call someone a racist. We all have this implicit bias and if you will indulge me, i want to read a section from professor everheart, this is a stereotype we all carry that social psychologists have tracked back for 60 years. The stereotype of black americans as being criminal has been documented for 60 years. Researchers have demonstrates its effects on numerous outcome variables including peoples memory for who was holding a deadly razor in a subway scene, the speed at which people decide to shoot someone holding a weapon, and the probability that they will shoot at all. Not only is the association between blacks and crime strong ie, consistent and frequent, it also appears to be automatic. So this awares we have that for 60 years were all carrying this poison in our brains and were not even aware of it, there is this idea when you say implicit bias, i want to back up and say you can get training on it but you cant eliminate something you are not aware of. These are biases we all carry. So seeing the humanity in a Police Officer having a bias that we also have, how can we help that officer do a very difficult job and some of the ways that we can do that is bias appears more frequently when you are tired, when youve got back to back calls for service, when you are not its an automatic response. So for us as policy makers here its not just a throw away weve got to get rid of implicit bias, some of it has to be what are the policies and procedures we do if we identify that were all affected by this bias, what policy changes can we make in supporting officers to get rid of the bias they have. This data is obviously very troubling and what id like to do, deputy chief chaplain comes to the commission once a month to report on all of our reforms. This is one particular item i would like to ask we get updates on every month, the progress of where the data is taking you and i want to assure you that worse things have already been said. So the only place we can do to is identifying where the issue is and supporting us in giving the officers the tools that they need. So that would be my request that we continue to track this. Commissioner dejesus. Right. So you know youre going to laugh at this, but at the end of the ticker, when you get a receipt at the store, they can go in and say what they thought of the stop. You can get that information. I also think we should have someone dedicated in terms of gathering this information and preparing more detailed reports here in front of the commission and making them available on the web site and my other thing was followup. We need to make sure we followup so i do agree with commissioner loftus that we should stay on top of this. I know you have a lot, this new law coming up reporting, you are going to be working on it anyway so it would be just a matter of reporting it to us as well. Thank you. Anything further, colleagues . Okay, thank you, captain. Thank you, lieutenant. See you again. All right. applause . Chief . That concludes my report. Any further questions for the chief . Chief, just one last question. Do we have, i know routinely you would give us the year to date homicides and information or any upticks in property caipl crime or Violent Crime. We have 13 homicides year to date for the First Quarter. With regard to other crime, property crime, Violent Crime is down 17 percent for the First Quarter. Property crime is down 13 percent including auto burglaries being down 12 percent. Overall part 1 crimes down 13 percent. Great, chief, and do you know how many homicides we were year to date for First Quarter of last year . 16. Okay. Great. Thank you, chief. Sergeant, please call the next line item. Item 2b, occ directors report. This item is to al