Involved shooting where theres a in custody death or whether the officer is a witness or is the subject of a misconduct investigation is for those members of the working group perhaps not appropriate for the officers to review the recording before writing he or she report certainly after the writing give a supplemental if necessary if you have expert testimony or a those folks who are very well versed and experts in the area would suggest there is a potential of tainting the statement not intentionally monopoly is suggesting the misconduct on the officers part but the human part you think youve found something i want to emphasis there are 3 limited circumstances. Im sorry. It is pie role tonight. So thank you so much. Further Public Comment there hearing none Public Comment is closed. In my colleagues have a chance to ask questions i know there are members of the working group i want to provide that opportunity for folks might have questions for captain moserer or others ill open up for the commissioners. Thank you. I want to ask a q question shes on board i know professor young from the Public Defenders Office told us at the last commissioner meeting it was her recommendations to set up the multi tier process officers taking rounded reports can review the video before writing the report but it is sort in the other incidents the officers under a sort of a quasi investigation whether an allegation of force her position i guess representing of Public Defenders Office theyll ask the officer not to view the video i think thats what you said i want to make sure it is that the position of entire working group. Maybe this is a consensus no situations whether; right the officer is a witness or victim and he or she is perceiving or involved in an events where he or she is a victim just recording what a victim of American People auto burglary or responding to a 0 dngs where the victims or witnesses are reported this is different than a situation why an officer hoichl is a victim or a witness actually some point credibility is going tobacco at stake it really protects i suggest that a lot of people in the field expert quilts is it protects the officer bus it is his or her recognize we want to know about it is the recollection and thats why as director hicks pointed out the nypd report thought after that program had been implemented and they audited it and in that he reports if im not mistaken came to us late in the process so you know that was their recommendation we do well to study that and consider. I believe that was also mr. Young referred to at the last meeting. It seems to me last week in the 8 or 99 incidents rotators everybody say the officers should review were only talking about limited case. Thats right and marty has a good point with the others point too yookz ive served as a investigator on officer involved shooting and responded at 2 00 a. M. To a officer involved shooting case the polyesters San Francisco have number one involved shooting at the time of shooting the issue was if you dont let the officers view the video prior to giving a statement the officers will not give me that volunteer statements it make sense to me as a prior defense attorney theyll choose not to give the statement that cant be useful in the investigation; right . I correct me if i am wrong i believe the officer is given a waiver if im being correct so. They can be right now this is only if they received did volunteer statement a so the chief doesnt have a mike the chief disputed that point im. You want to get a mike chief we want to hear from i. Helpful to understand those issues. Police officers like everyone else in the United States are allowed the fifth amendment against selfincrimination understanding the Police Officers cant refuse a statement ordered to and give American People interview with that said, whatever comes the live statement will not be in mind in court but the members of the San FranciscoPolice Department have given a volunteery statement theres no need to compel the statement which means it could be later my mind into evidence. Later. Did you have further questions. Thats he is tension he see there. Thank you, chief. I dont time to quite frankly not in a position to dispute that but im not exactly insuring sure from the officer is going to be potentially involved in a criminal investigation he gives is given the live bar waiver correct and no, he inrevokes. Right but i mean Police Officers we deal with advise our officers to evoke so he or she didnt lose their job so the statement is not used against hearing impaired in a prosecution. It is better if i make you understand. So well take that piece offering but the commission is saying a tension of the unintended consequences does anyone have a question for this are we good questions for marty from the piano. Marty id like to you clarify one thing im not exactly sure what it say, i feel youll tell me. I wanted to clarify and echo are commissioner wong said two weeks ago i laid out a couple of scenarios an officer who is not im sorry an officer who is compelled to provide a statement after an officer involved shooting or in custody death that statement cant be used against them in in fact any type of criminal conduct the histories as long as api ive been in the plod 15 years the officers are given a voluntary statement thats been the policy but if we are now not allowed did view the body camera view prior then our attorneys will more than likely advise our members not to give that voluntary statement i dont want to see that happen and turn bad actor the clock other restrictions eir agencies like lapd theyll take over the investigation as opposed to our homicides which dont does an exceptional job with other agencies conducting that as far officers are not lout to view the view it is going to be forced on i a the administration thats not what we want to see and not the members deserve or the public deserves. Thank you, mary i didnt thank you, colleagues other questions for the champion or excessive or the members of the working group . Okay. Well, i, see this policy is actually, only 6 pampers page it enrevokes the issues that has sweeping issues we are declaring to get through were grateful for everyone on the working group youve spent our time and continue to communicate with the folks website email us if you were not able to be here he guess ill ask accenting adjournment action time. Colleagues a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. All in favor, say i. I. Were adjourned. Thank you so much everyone we willyou. Present off pledge of allegiance of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 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It is my privilege and honor to join you in our city for the com arbitration for those past victims as well as heros 9 1114 years ago all of us remember 14 years ago in 3 thousand miles away it seems like a distance but burned if in our memories as an event wed like never forgot by most importantly we take lessons from that and continue support our San FranciscoFire Department our Police Department, our responding and optimistic readies for anything i want to thank the chief the mission, our police chief and all those that worked together to make sure that our city is ready inaudible and i know that while we horn the First Responder especially today, we take a moment to remember the specific names not trained as froerd for families flight tenant on American Airlines she worked in communicating the very first event our own hero to let us you know your countrys country was under attack mark batting i am remember him as in the airlines they were not going to lowest terrorists file their cabin those are some of the peoples names that reacted that all to say that at the community please understand the sacrifice i do for sure im working and continue to work the excessive makes sure to remind us we have the resources the support and most important that the public precious what that day whether it is recording to a fire, whether theres an accidents on the street or youre on a very sometimes think an hourly basis treating the needs on the streets we know youre there and ready we know that you respond and intending to thank and let you know that those of us not only work but appreciate the work you do and your sacrifice and appreciate the ready i didntness we continue to be ready for days moving forward know this our city appreciate our role in our response our sacrifice and youre ready i didntness thank you for being here and rem remember were a worldclass Fire Department ready to be responding to anything that occurs. Thank you, mayor ed lee id like to introduce inaudible . Thank you very much, mayor ed lee chief suhr and thank you for joining us this morning and chief joanne hayeswhite and members from the team members of the inaudible we are joining the authority and inaudible andrea and our Vice President covering ton come this morning to commemorate and acknowledge the sacrifice of those 3 hundred and 43 new york Fire Department members who gave the ultimate sacrifice to 40 doing their duty they gave the sacrifice of their lives no greater gift or sacrifice for Public Servants than to do that we acknowledge to those members are we at commission and command force of Public Service for the Fire Department dictate ours to serving the public inaudible the sacrifice discharging our duties and obligation thank you. Now id like to ask inaudibl inaudible . For 4 hundred Police Officers and firefighters dyed it day another 14 hundred have passed over 9 11 nearly 25 thousand other people would have died we lost 3 thousand americans that day as chief joanne hayeswhite says everybody remembers exactly where they were so as and stand here with the large class and an equal or larger group of Police Academy recruits up at Police Academy prepared to be that next generation to run in when everybody else runs away ill finish with a quote from the president we take the devotion for the last measure of devotion to high resolve theyll not die in vain we cant forgot the firefighters and Police Officers that ran in when others ran away so we might survive you. What do you think about working at an airport and i love it is busy all the time. We want it to be an those away was this is a venture if i didnt love it ill be an accountant. We want the experience that is a nonairport experience the negative stigma were trying to erase that. 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