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Involved shooting where theres a in custody death or whether the officer is a witness or is the subject of a misconduct investigation is for those members of the working group perhaps not appropriate for the officers to review the recording before writing he or she report certainly after the writing give a supplemental if necessary if you have expert testimony or a those folks who are very well versed and experts in the area would suggest there is a potential of tainting the statement not intentionally monopoly is suggesting the misconduct on the officers part but the human part you think youve found something i want to emphasis there are 3 limited circumstances. Im sorry. It is pie role tonight. So thank you so much. Further Public Comment there hearing none Public Comment is closed. In my colleagues have a chance to ask questions i know there are members of the working group i want to provide that opportunity for folks might have questions for captain moserer or others ill open up for the commissioners. Thank you. I want to ask a q question shes on board i know professor young from the Public Defenders Office told us at the last commissioner meeting it was her recommendations to set up the multi tier process officers taking rounded reports can review the video before writing the report but it is sort in the other incidents the officers under a sort of a quasi investigation whether an allegation of force her position i guess representing of Public Defenders Office theyll ask the officer not to view the video i think thats what you said i want to make sure it is that the position of entire working group. Maybe this is a consensus no situations whether; right the officer is a witness or victim and he or she is perceiving or involved in an events where he or she is a victim just recording what a victim of American People auto burglary or responding to a 0 dngs where the victims or witnesses are reported this is different than a situation why an officer hoichl is a victim or a witness actually some point credibility is going tobacco at stake it really protects i suggest that a lot of people in the field expert quilts is it protects the officer bus it is his or her recognize we want to know about it is the recollection and thats why as director hicks pointed out the nypd report thought after that program had been implemented and they audited it and in that he reports if im not mistaken came to us late in the process so you know that was their recommendation we do well to study that and consider. I believe that was also mr. Young referred to at the last meeting. It seems to me last week in the 8 or 99 incidents rotators everybody say the officers should review were only talking about limited case. Thats right and marty has a good point with the others point too yookz ive served as a investigator on officer involved shooting and responded at 2 00 a. M. To a officer involved shooting case the polyesters San Francisco have number one involved shooting at the time of shooting the issue was if you dont let the officers view the video prior to giving a statement the officers will not give me that volunteer statements it make sense to me as a prior defense attorney theyll choose not to give the statement that cant be useful in the investigation; right . I correct me if i am wrong i believe the officer is given a waiver if im being correct so. They can be right now this is only if they received did volunteer statement a so the chief doesnt have a mike the chief disputed that point im. You want to get a mike chief we want to hear from i. Helpful to understand those issues. Police officers like everyone else in the United States are allowed the fifth amendment against selfincrimination understanding the Police Officers cant refuse a statement ordered to and give American People interview with that said, whatever comes the live statement will not be in mind in court but the members of the San Francisco Police Department have given a volunteery statement theres no need to compel the statement which means it could be later my mind into evidence. Later. Did you have further questions. Thats he is tension he see there. Thank you, chief. I dont time to quite frankly not in a position to dispute that but im not exactly insuring sure from the officer is going to be potentially involved in a criminal investigation he gives is given the live bar waiver correct and no, he inrevokes. Right but i mean Police Officers we deal with advise our officers to evoke so he or she didnt lose their job so the statement is not used against hearing impaired in a prosecution. It is better if i make you understand. So well take that piece offering but the commission is saying a tension of the unintended consequences does anyone have a question for this are we good questions for marty from the piano. Marty id like to you clarify one thing im not exactly sure what it say, i feel youll tell me. I wanted to clarify and echo are commissioner wong said two weeks ago i laid out a couple of scenarios an officer who is not im sorry an officer who is compelled to provide a statement after an officer involved shooting or in custody death that statement cant be used against them in in fact any type of criminal conduct the histories as long as api ive been in the plod 15 years the officers are given a voluntary statement thats been the policy but if we are now not allowed did view the body camera view prior then our attorneys will more than likely advise our members not to give that voluntary statement i dont want to see that happen and turn bad actor the clock other restrictions eir agencies like lapd theyll take over the investigation as opposed to our homicides which dont does an exceptional job with other agencies conducting that as far officers are not lout to view the view it is going to be forced on i a the administration thats not what we want to see and not the members deserve or the public deserves. Thank you, mary i didnt thank you, colleagues other questions for the champion or excessive or the members of the working group . Okay. Well, i, see this policy is actually, only 6 pampers page it enrevokes the issues that has sweeping issues we are declaring to get through were grateful for everyone on the working group youve spent our time and continue to communicate with the folks website email us if you were not able to be here he guess ill ask accenting adjournment action time. Colleagues a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. All in favor, say i. I. Were adjourned. Thank you so much everyone we willyou. Present off pledge of allegiance of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 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It is my privilege and honor to join you in our city for the com arbitration for those past victims as well as heros 9 1114 years ago all of us remember 14 years ago in 3 thousand miles away it seems like a distance but burned if in our memories as an event wed like never forgot by most importantly we take lessons from that and continue support our San Francisco Fire Department our Police Department, our responding and optimistic readies for anything i want to thank the chief the mission, our police chief and all those that worked together to make sure that our city is ready inaudible and i know that while we horn the First Responder especially today, we take a moment to remember the specific names not trained as froerd for families flight tenant on American Airlines she worked in communicating the very first event our own hero to let us you know your countrys country was under attack mark batting i am remember him as in the airlines they were not going to lowest terrorists file their cabin those are some of the peoples names that reacted that all to say that at the community please understand the sacrifice i do for sure im working and continue to work the excessive makes sure to remind us we have the resources the support and most important that the public precious what that day whether it is recording to a fire, whether theres an accidents on the street or youre on a very sometimes think an hourly basis treating the needs on the streets we know youre there and ready we know that you respond and intending to thank and let you know that those of us not only work but appreciate the work you do and your sacrifice and appreciate the ready i didntness we continue to be ready for days moving forward know this our city appreciate our role in our response our sacrifice and youre ready i didntness thank you for being here and rem remember were a worldclass Fire Department ready to be responding to anything that occurs. Thank you, mayor ed lee id like to introduce inaudible . Thank you very much, mayor ed lee chief suhr and thank you for joining us this morning and chief joanne hayeswhite and members from the team members of the inaudible we are joining the authority and inaudible andrea and our Vice President covering ton come this morning to commemorate and acknowledge the sacrifice of those 3 hundred and 43 new york Fire Department members who gave the ultimate sacrifice to 40 doing their duty they gave the sacrifice of their lives no greater gift or sacrifice for Public Servants than to do that we acknowledge to those members are we at commission and command force of Public Service for the Fire Department dictate ours to serving the public inaudible the sacrifice discharging our duties and obligation thank you. Now id like to ask inaudibl inaudible . For 4 hundred Police Officers and firefighters dyed it day another 14 hundred have passed over 9 11 nearly 25 thousand other people would have died we lost 3 thousand americans that day as chief joanne hayeswhite says everybody remembers exactly where they were so as and stand here with the large class and an equal or larger group of Police Academy recruits up at Police Academy prepared to be that next generation to run in when everybody else runs away ill finish with a quote from the president we take the devotion for the last measure of devotion to high resolve theyll not die in vain we cant forgot the firefighters and Police Officers that ran in when others ran away so we might survive you. What do you think about working at an airport and i love it is busy all the time. We want it to be an those away was this is a venture if i didnt love it ill be an accountant. We want the experience that is a nonairport experience the negative stigma were trying to erase that. Everything is in a bad food to excite them about the food and they have time to learn about us. People are imitated by traveling and the last thing to do is come to a place fill of chaos. Telling me how the extent of napa a farms came about. It was a vision of the airport director he had a suspicion of a really cool gourmet speciality market locally friendly products this market local flavors this is the best. Can we get a little tour. Absolutely laughter so first on our tour. We have the clock we like to call it. This is coordinating it is made in San Francisco. What about the customer presence. We like to get the permanent farther i love the cappuccino and you have to go to multiple places for the cupcakes the cup a cakes from karis people want to live here theyre longing phone call for one thing in one spot in you know anything about San Francisco the cheese the most popular cheesy think a lot of the people from the west coast say so this the real San Francisco sour dough and theyre curious. You find people respond to the idea of organic and absolutely. This is autumn. Thank you, thank you and theres a lot of personal touch. I see San Francisco. Its very hands on. Whats the most popular items. This is quite surprising our fresh jotting this is the chronicle special a bowl of warm oats and coconut thats mites farther. And speaking of drinks tell me again the cocktail scenes is that one, the things your known for. The cocktails are fantastic. Really. Fresh ingredients we dont have a mixture it to order this is our marcus bloody mayor. Farmers market bloody mary the bloody marys in the airport are great shikz it up. And then were going to garnish it with olives. And some lime and a fresh stalk of selly. Right on. We like im your host of culturewire, and today, here at electric works in San Francisco. Nice to see you today. Thanks for inviting us in and showing us your amazing facility today. My pleasure. How long has electric works been around . Electric works has been in San Francisco since the beginning of 2007. We moved here from brisbane from our old innovation. We do printmaking, gallery shows, and we have a fabulous retail store where there are lots of fun things to find. We will look at all of that as we walk around. It is incredible to me how many Different Things you do. How is it you identify that San Francisco was in need of all these Different Services . It came from stepping out of graduate school in 1972. I wrote a little thing about how this is an idea, how our world should work. It should have printmaking, archiving, a gallery. It should have a retail store. In 1972, i wanted to have art sales, pointofsale at the grocery store. So you go through the manifesto. With the bay area should have. You are making art incredibly accessible in so many different ways, so that is a good segue. Lets take a walk around the facilities. Here we are in your gallery space. Can you tell me about the current show . The current show is jeff chadsey. He is working on mylar velum, a smooth, beautiful drawing surface. I do not know anyone that draws as well as he does. It is perfect, following the contours and making the shape of the body. Your gallery represents artists from all over, not just the bay area, an artist that work in a lot of different media. How to use some of what you look for in artists you represent . It is dependent on people are confident with their materials. That is a really important thing. There is enough stuff in the world already. You also have in his current show an artist who makes sculpture out of some really interesting types of materials. Lets go over and take a look at that. Here we are in a smaller space. Project gallery. Artists used the parameters of this space to find relationships between the work that is not out in the big gallery. I noticed a lot of artists doing really sitespecific work. This is a pile of balloons, something that is so familiar, like a childs balloon. In this proportion, suddenly, it becomes something out of a dream. Or a nightmare. May be a nightmare. This one over here is even harder to figure out what the initial material is. This is made out of puffy paint. Often, kids use it to decorate their clothes. She has made all these lines of paint. For the pieces we are looking at, is there a core of foam or something in the middle of these pieces that she built on top of . Im not telling. Ah, a secret. This silver is aluminum foil, crumbled of aluminum foil. Her aesthetic is very much that quiet, japanese spatial thing that i really admire. Their attention to the materiality of the things of the world. This is a nice juxtaposition you have going on right now. You have a more established artists alongside and emerging artists. Is that something important to you as well . Very important in this space, to have artists who really have not shown much. Now lets look at other aspects of electric works operation. Lets go to the bookstore. Ok. In all seriousness, here we are in your store. This is the first space you encounter when you come in off the street. It has evolved since you open here into the most amazingly curious selection of things. This was the project for the berkeley art museum. It was this is from william wileys retrospective, when he got up onstage to sing a song, 270 people put on the cat. It is not just a bookstore. It is a store. Can you talk us through some of your favorites . These are made in china, but they are made out of cattails. These pieces of here, you have a whale head and various animals and their health over there, and they are jewelry. We do fund raisers for nonprofits, so we are doing a project for the magic theater, so there are some pretty funny cartoons. They are probably not for prime time. You sort of have a kind of holistic relationship where you might do merchandise in the store that promotes their work and practice, and also, prince for them. Maybe we should go back and look at the print operation now. Lets go. Before we go into the print shop, i noticed some incredible items you have talked back here. What are we standing in front of . This is william wiley, only one earth. This is a print edition. There are only eight total, and what we wanted to do was expand the idea of printmaking. This is really an art object. There we go. Besides the punball machine, what do you produce in limited edition . There is the slot machine. If you win the super jackpot, you have saved the world. What about work . The right design, it was three volumes with lithographs in each volume. The cab of count dracula with 20 lithographs inside and lined with beaver fur. Really special. Lets move on to the print shop. Ok. The core of what we do is making things. This is an example. This is a print project that will be a fundraiser for the contemporary music players. We decided to put it in the portfolio so you could either frame at or have it on your bookshelf. So nonprofits can come to you, not just visual are nonprofits, but just nonprofits can come to you, and you will produce prints for them to sell, and the profits, they can keep. The return on investment is usually four times to 10 times the amount of investment. This is for the bio reserve in mexico, and this is one of the artists we represent. You also make prints for the artists that you represent. Over here are some large prints by a phenomenal artist. He writes these beautiful things. Anyone who has told you paradise is a book of rules is has only appeared through the windows. This is from all over coffee. We are contract printers for all kinds of organizations all across the country. Thank you very much for showing us around today. I really appreciate you taking the time to let me get better acquainted with the operation and also to share with our culturewire team. Somehow the 24th is not available. I would like to ask for a continuance for the next available date. And i believe we are reasonably close to an agreement so we can avoid a dr and i think we might be able to do that. October 8th. All right. That would be fine. I think the commission can likely accommodate that. Commissioners. I need to and i apologize with all the excitement that i need to recuse myself to this item. I motion to recuse president fong. Second. On that motion to recuse president fong from item 3, commissioner michael j. Antonini commissioner rich hillis general manager jerry n. Johnson commissioner Kathrin Moore commissioner Dennis Richards president cindy wu and commissioner fong. Hes gone already. So moved, commissioners. Well take that item up soon. Okay. Thank you. Is there further Public Comment on the continuance calendar . Im here to request that you continue no. 7 until the date you have chosen for no. 5 which is october 15th. Can i have the overhead please. You will notice that day is the same issue. We are using the 5foot height as

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