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SFGTV Planning Commission 41317 April 18, 2017

Shortly commissioners, the first item on your agenda is proposed for continuance for continuance 201500914drp 3009 california st. Proposed for continuance to may 11, may 11, item no. 2 20142110cwp western shoreline area plan, proposed for continuance to june 8, 2017. Item no. 3 2015018150cua, 137 clayton street, proposed for continuance to june 8, continuance to june 8, and item no. 5 201600706drp02, 752 elizabeth street, proposed for continuance to july 6, 2017, discretionary commissioners further from the regular calendar item no. 12 2016011947cwp, child care Facilities Planning Code Amendment. Needs to be continued in the proposed date is may 40, 2017 not affect of hearing date for this matter and further commissioners on item 18. 18 thank you commissioner president hillis case item no. 18 2016010632cua, 201 steiner street, conditional use authorization. We received a request into the project sponsor to continue this to will you additional discussions with the neighborhood for which there is opposition at the same time the opposition submitted a letter requesting that we not continue the matter and have it heard today ill leave that to your deliberations no to the items proposed for continuance and there are no speaker cards. On item 18 take up the matter of continues if we dont well continue it well hear it at the date it is continued but start with Public Comment on the items proposed to be continued any Public Comment on this item . Please line up on the screen side of the room. And approach the mike and again, were taking Public Comment on the continuance issue not necessarily the item at hand go ahead if youre ready. Yes. Michael gains copresident of the Merchant Association corresponding with the Planning Department on this we had that opportunity to speak one was back in first or Second Quarter of 2016 at the harvey milk i was there and the push back with concerns and second a meeting with their Legal Counsel on february 1st of this year jim abrams and all of the concerns requester communicated by myself and the Vice President and showed up at the rather monthly meeting in march and more concerns the optics are off not only is feels like it is rushed with the april 13th date assuming we as a community might not organization but literally ask for a continuance the spirit is engaging the community as you can see hear from the narrative and the history several instances were given crickets for many months theyve not engaged the community and not hired a pr firm or experienced concerns which i wont get into it is off topic but many perhaps a way forward plus a tactic to defuse the people that many carved out time in their business and privately calendar to be here even if it is in the latter of day and one sentence we understand the spirit should have come theyve give us last week it was number 18 there are 7 or 8 items continued for continuance and so we leave it to you with that background and the understanding the history of this correspondence and engagement which the community is impacted thank you. Next speaker, please. Yes my name is hal fishing resident of the lower haight im informal did a lot of the work on the opposition to this i think the reason given the amount of the Community Outreach they did in response to the community why 24 need to be continued the issues are straightforward and clear as michael said people made time to address this issue i see no reap this should be continued thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi i live very close to the coffee shop in questio n and dont see any reason to continue this is just a great example of why the formula retail exists i mean in the past weve had a wonderful coffee shop part of the community and people met there and discussed a well lit coffee shop i love the blue bottle base coffee didnt belong here is a dangerous corner with bikes and cars and pedestrians been added to the congestion with a designation coffee shop for people coming from blocks away to stop off for for coffee not what the neighborhood and city needs thats it thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi, im dave in the lower haight ill be quick havent seen any attempt to get Public Comment from the blue bottle all of a sudden want a continuance and have not done nothing thats all i have to say. Thank you. Next speaker, please. And ive lived in lower haight for 25 years a block from the corner and also very much opposed to this store in the lower haight thank you. Thank you, thank you im jim abrams council for the blue bottle we respectfully request a continuance like to have further Community Outreach a sense weve not done enough with sufficient conversations request the community and wed like to be able to do that and understanding there is better to try to there will this in the proposal to better address the neighborhoods concerns and also i think one big issue we want to continue to discuss with the neighborhood that is one of the gentlemen stayed there is a perspective a ban on the wholesale in the lower haight part of outreach in opposition has been discussing a ban for formula retail and somehow were trying to open up that autopsied ban for no morality thats not correct we asking for a cu we are the neighborhood thinks were trying to allow other formula retail to operate in the lower haight well discuss that and the specifics were asking for, thank you. Thovmd on the items proposed for continuance. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner fong. So continue items 1 through 5 and 12 to the fourth. A date for the 18. No proposed hearing date by may fourth or 11. I dont know how long blue bottle will need for the Community Outreach. May 11 gives us a month that will be sufficient. Were also july 11th if . Better but may 11 is one month and would be and my motion to may 11 if we need to continue beyond that. If so jonas. Second. Commissioner Vice President richards. I guess a question for mr. Abrams so i have been on the commission 2 and a half years this is the first blue bottle that came before us in that period when the neighborhood commercial district was a cu was it just the enit is the duty on whether you bottles part or engaged months ago with the history of shown walling crickets telling you what happened. One so for blue bottle on fillmore street that happened just about 18 months ago or so pr in this instance we have a meeting we heard the concerns of the community at that meeting that is clear. This is the 14. For the proposal in the fall. Okay. For the proposal if the lower haight we then working through the application process and reached out to mohammed to attend one the meeting to discuss the meeting the president of the blue bottle attend that meeting we thought we had a positive and truthful go conversation and not one of opposition at least the way we experienced it and in the communication the weather from the letter that came out and the petition that was really i think caught us by surprises based on the nature of the conversation we you know we understood there a bit more neutrality and the petition was more about formula retail in the policy issue generally as as opposed to to blue bottle to stop formula retail in the lower haight that was just a conversation that was different from what we were happening specifically being this store you know what is served and health operated and those types of things. Thank you. The gentleman from before we vote on whether to continue this a mocha you let me know your take on how the meeting went i i was you out of country i was at the last meeting but i can tell you what the harvey milk was like and he came to one meeting with the community that was in march jim myself and our Vice President met on february 1st, the next was the attendance at the march meeting but a huge gap between april of 2016 and february 1st meeting with jim and thats our biggest concern why did that happen not more proactive fifth amendment weve wherein through those things in the neighborhood and not the pr and martha and the main concerns was set a precedent and blue bottle is not close. Thank you commissioner johnson. No, im okay sorry about that. Commissioner moore. Just to ground ours in the subject blew ballot has not rieg to formula retail in coffee started with petting was in 65 that was gigantic and starbucks has been on the radar the broader question in retail it is the first time the issue of formula retail comes up while in the corridor and blue bottle being the subject of that or the reason for that discussion i hope that it it be continued to remove the project or continue it that you all start separating the issues one to work on increasing the neighborhood commercial guidelines and guidance to see how specifically, the corridors in the city and another one to sort out that the commission has generally taking the length convenient position for the local grown businesses and as long those not stepped into becoming companies that have Gone International we continue to support locally grown Small Businesses i want to say for the clarifying and allow you to take months and sort out the issues who is youre asking us to look at if youre cu. Commissioners, if theres nothing further, there is a motion that has been seconded to continue items as proposed including items 12 and 18 to may 11th commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner Vice President richards and commissioner president hillis so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and under your under our are considered to be routine may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests in which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. Item item no. 6 2014. 0086drp02, 2855 filbert street, discretionary review. And item item no. 7 2014. 0556gpa, vision zero intention to initiate general plan amendments. There are no speaker cards. Would any members of the public like to pull items 6 or 7 from the consent calendar seeing none, well vote Public Comment and open up to commissioners. Commissioner johnson. Make a motion to approve items lets see where were at. 6 and 7. Both of those items, 6 and 7. Thank you, commissioners on that motion to take dr and approve the project on item 6 as modified and to initiate adopt a consideration of a resolution of intent to initiate and schedule on after 18 commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner Vice President richards and commissioner president hillis so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and mr. Winslow us on commission matters. Commissioners comments, and questions. Commissioner moore. Id like to ask why initiating vision zero is not part of our own regular calendar so that public has the ability to hear us make comments in the summary of what were initiating i know weve talked about vision zero with the planners many, many pending questions that the public has particularly that disruptive qualifies of uber and lyft truly undermines the original intent when vision zero was started and understand that policies and forward Guiding Principles have been incorporated were finally initiating the public has the ability to we are asked critical questions and the Department Works as a corporations and their moving forward. Was that a question. No a comment. You could have pull that off content i know that is on content noticeably and so could the public but make that clear. The planner wrote me a thoughtful email in answer to my questions and if nothing else perhaps that answer can be incorporated into the Meeting Minutes without read into the record sometimes theyre the public understands or listens to. If we can put it in the packet to you know someone goes to the calendar item perhaps that answer can be included in the packet. Thats a good answer put it on the email and integrating that. Commissioner johnson. Thank you following up on conversations weve had at the commission over the past few months theres an article in the in or out o New York Times well not go into the details but a lot of the sort of movement in retail and sort of the technology that are coming into play information really struck me as ground floor retail essentially being the front for swharing activity essentially at the office of initiation with the storefronts for 1e8 various things all adds up to mean that in the future retail is going to enstale an additional level of infrastructure it is getting hard for the 2ki7b9 open a can of worms to support if you think about the model with a Clothing Store and really a front for the website and all clots in the warehouse and everything is on the ipad you can click and those stores of technolo gy that is important for the Planning Department and to all of us to think about that is a level of infrastructure that is not the Current Business model for stores where they have their wears in the back that is where were going to the future we need to have consolidation in the types of businesses that supportive ground floor at the if we see that we may see future vasectomies it is now important for what else we can support on the ground floor moving forward dealing with multiple neighborhood ncd district with a lot of these vacancies we have corridors that are parental issues but may have more in the future to think about it. Commissioner Vice President richards. I read the same article another article in the review on the times on sunday talked about how well not bring back main street it talked about the evolution of retail from the 18 psychos to the 1890s and a chance store what it as done to the small towns and condominium about where in the u. S. The small retailers are doing well, that the place not an issue for more affluent like San Francisco and brought these up i think that is a good discussion to understand we have the commercial corridors and dead on with the 5 cup of coffee pay the rents and have people coming sensitive to price but other problems people are not able to do that rodely not as much disposal income and enlightenments to what commissioner johnson mentioned. Next commissioner melgar. Thank you. I also read that same article thank you for brirpg it up it sounds like well have a topic discussion there are neighborhoods like the mission where you know 60 percent of low income families does not have computers that connection added home and they shop along the Mission Street corridor and 24th street corridor and in looking to the future we must not forget the present those storefronts tend to be entrylevel for a lot of businesses and places where people shop and wanted to say the Mission Corridor is unique and others corridors in the chinatown and the bayview so i think a nuance understanding and planning for that you know must take into reality or account our reality in the presence i think i look forward to that discussion here it is important next commissioner fong. Ill be careful not to start a dialogue but agree with our comments of the article and our conversation with commissioner moore about stores and how to treat them in the future observing you look at the boulevard and other dealerships only one sample of one car so maybe a broader discussion along with some of the things that commissioner moore and i talked about im not sure if there is an opportunity for the department you know almost bringing in a future i thought or locally but look forward to the conversation. Commissioner moore. There is annotate discussion on what i say and the encouraging comment from commissioner melgar makes which i look to 2 down folsom street up and down there is vacancies all of a sudden and at least 10 now stores popped up with the entrepreneurial population and perhaps the population wants to get into Small Business that contradicts the things we buy are large ones there is a vital need for business shopping i dont think well ever see so i really like to keep the positive things that San Francisco is doing in the commercial corridors as a Guiding Light for myself i once put my energy i dont see urban life happening we can credibility to occurring tailing wind that indeed retail can occur that commissioner melgar is describing i observed an polk street. Commissioner johnson. Totally out of dialogue. laughter i think my comments were also about maintaining that positivity and how we support those models in the future one last note in my thoughts i didnt say the first time around the land use perspective but prosecute an Economic Development looking how i guess other departments not Planning Department but how can we have programs to support those local businesses because one of the big things the model is having Retail Stores the model is you no longer have your wears in the back a network of trucks with you are your vicinity but the model it your inventory is that somewhere else and shifts to people at home it will be hard to support a role model morality stores move to the infrastructure involved and the other places that dont and more quote unquote traditional if things change in the future youll not have the trucks bringing in your inventory but support the infrastructure in the future may not be maybe the portion thank you, commissioners and certainly a topic were reader in and can schedule that a time to talk about it with the Planning Department staff so thank yo

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