To withhold the supplemental colea from the pre[inaudible] the 2011 measure does not authorize fully funded condition to apply to 1996 retireees [inaudible] maybe that will help we will go into closed session and try to figure this out. Thank you for sticking around to the last item. I appreciate your comment for this closed session you take a vote. Shall and entertain a motion . Motion made and second. Made by meiberger and seconded by paskin jordan. We are going into closed session. Without objection . Passes. Thank you for joining us. 6 25. I like to entertain a motion at this time. Id like to move [inaudible] that we respect the items in closed session. It requires further discussion [inaudible] in the next Board Meeting is january. January 20. Is there a second to that motion . Second by mr. Driscoll. The motion passes unanimously. [inaudible] i also want to make a comment my husband is a pre96 retieee so want to make that clear that people have that knowledge in the commission. Thank you, we appreciate that. Are there members the public that would like to comment on this . [inaudible] thank you. Is there Public Comment . No Public Comment is closed. Motion is made by commissioner stansbury and second by commissioner driscoll. The motion passes unanimously. Any other matters before the body . [inaudible] any other matters before this body . No calendar items this meeting is adjourned. Thank you. [meeting adjourned]. Ladies and gentlemen, the chair has called the meeting to order. Please turn off your Electronic Devices as they interfere with the equipment in the room. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. President , loftus, i would like to call roll. Commission president loftus, Commission President turman, commission marshall, commissioner dejesus, commissioner hwang is excused, commissioner mazzucco, commissioner melara. And with us is greg chief suhr and office of complaint joyce hicks. Thank you, i would like to welcome everyone to our meeting tonight. We have an incredible crowd of people who have come to the commission tonight. We want to hear your thoughts and feelings. We want to hear everyone. In the north light court, there are other people who want to be heard. The Sheriffs Department is going to be coordinating that process. I want to let you know that it is my goal that we get to hear from everyone. It will take all of our participation to get to do that. Based on the number of people and the long agenda that we have, it will be 2 minutes per person. Byway for folks who dont normally come to the Police Commission. We will go over our agenda. You probably have noted that there is an item on discussion for use of force. We will have that discussion and well have the opportunity to hear Public Comment. It is important that we actually get a chance to hear from everyone. Please call the first line item. Item 1. Consent calendar. Sf ptsd occ document protocol Quarterly Report 3 quarter 2015. Status report on general orders policy proposals Third Quarter 2015, request of the chief of please to accept donation of 300 to go towards the Central Station as Youth Engagement program. Can i have a motion . Motion and second. All in favor say, aye. Aye. Any opposed . Next item. General Public Comment. City clerk the public snout welcome to address the Commission Regarding items that do not appear on tonights agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. Speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or occ personnel. Under Police Commission rules of order, during Public Comment, Neither Police or occ personnel, nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public, but may provide a brief response. You have 2 minutes. Public speaker good evening, this is an inquiry for the purpose of determining the appropriate time to raise issues regarding alex nieto, mario woods and the whole lot of other people who have been affected by the Police Killings here in San Francisco can that be raised at another time. General Public Comment. Go ahead. Public speaker good evening, commissioners, i believe the time needs to start now. Please start the time now. Proceed. Good evening, commissioners, good evening chief, good evening to the people of San Francisco. Martin del campo, executive committee San Francisco labor council. I rise for the purpose of exercising Constitutional Rights regarding the airing of grievances. I chose the place because there is not another place to do so. The recent killings have to be placed in the context. The context is what has been happening on the issue of Police Killings at the board of supervisors, at the mayors, at the dcc, the failure of leadership and why any discussion tonight that is not adequate is just not getting to the problem. I submit that the problem is clear, we have a problem with the laws that are so broadly established that permit the use of weapons inexcessively. And thats the first thing that any commission needs to do. The second biggest problem we have is the culture of the Police Department and that must be addressed. The basis of my statement is the following. What we have is a Police Association that bullies the board of supervisors. Its a matter of Public Record that says that the board of supervisors cant talk about alex nieto which now results in the anger that we witness outside. So i dont appeal, i air on the grievances that this discussion so little so late is inadequate and in insult. If we can close to dear to door to hear the speakers. Good evening, mr. Washington. Public speaker unfortunately we are here today, not only San Francisco, you see people all over the country, they are going to shine on San Francisco like never before. God works in mysterious ways. Im not pointing the finger at anybody. I have known the chief for many years, i have known the mayor. Im not here to impress bushth to impress on you all and the country and the world to know, we in San Francisco, are in a black state of emergency. We have been for a number of years. Im the only African American media person out with the migration. There is a few people there. Let me go on. Because of a tape that Fred Blackwell turned over to the Human Rights Commission on why blacks were leaving and one was the relationship of the Police Department. Now, thats not only here in San Francisco. Its all over. All over the world. So the thing about it is, im thinking and hoping and praying throughout this process we can have a real sit down and talk about policing. Im out stuck in the migration trying to put the black people together. I have a task that is unreal. Only god can lead me. I dont need your permission. Im on a mission. I have to get my black Community Leaders together. With guided leadership, failed efforts and undermining our community that could be tolerated from this point out. My name is ace and im on this case. I hope you know chief and i hope we can talk about Police Relationships after the smoke clears. Thank you, mr. Washington. Youre welcome. Public speaker good evening. You know something, you all have blood on your hands, everyone of you Police Commission. How many times did we talk about him. I stood out there with greg suhr and talked about the taser and taser. We might give it to you but you have to have a defibrillators with you and cpr techniques. We have a young man that is dead right now. Had those officers had a taser, he would be here. He might be doing some time for another stabbing. Its on your hands many dont blame greg suhr, d. A. , its you people. You have to own up for what you did. I hope it feels good. Public speaker good evening. I dont have a long conversation. I came today. I went to the Community Meeting. You are you know i have watched this movie where black people are killed all the time all over this country. My question is and i know chief suhr. Im not going to say i dont like him. If we are going to change anyway, my question is what are you going to do about this . All of this talk. We are not getting anything done. I want to know if there is anything going to be done. Otherwise we are wasting our time. There is not being done about the others. I was a young man when they killed a black man, shot him in the back without a cause. There is nothing to the Police Officer. Now we have another case. The killing, a black man shooting him 26 times and now we all up in arms about it like its something new and look at what just happened in chicago and all over this country. I want to know in San Francisco what are you going to do about this in what are you going to do about it. If you are going to do something, chief, tell us what it is. I mean what can anyone in this room say that can change it. You cant change the circumstances. So i say to the board and i say to all of you if you are not going to do anything about it, its just a rerun with treadmilling. If thats all it is, im going home because it dont make sense to be with this. We are going to beat up on the chief and get another chief that is a member of the Klu Klux Klan. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir, thank you for your comments. Thank you, sir. So we can provide a brief response and given those questions, i want to indicate that based on the agenda tonight the chief is going over the steps that this department has taken and this commission is going to begin the discussion of dgo on the use of force. Wouldnt it make sense to call a meeting with all of us to say, look, we decided to do this about it. So this aint nothing but a charade. Black people get killed every hour. This is nothing but madness. I think there is a proper person to ask you, commissioners, to ask the chief what you are going to do. Thank you. Next speaker. Public speaker bishop king. We witnessed an assassination, a hate crime and straight up murder many i think the law already speaks to what we do to murderers. We arrest them and convict them and send them to prison. Chief suhr is being demanded of this community to step down in a noble way without putting pressure on the mayor with his own problems. There is no justification in sight that we need to see this man needed to be executed. 1012 officers cant talk a man to put a knife down. 1012 officers that couldnt talk this person to put a knife down. We dont want to talk about tasers and shields. What has happened has to be answered in a forthright way. If the chief continues to defend the right to murder and kill and slaughter with people on the street under his command, then he becomes the coconspirator to murder. Anybody else here in this commission that is going to justify, defend, murderers on the street then you are contributing to that. As the African American relation board we have policies that will deal with this kind of stuff, but the administration before you thought that we needed to disengage them. I would ask the question where is your personally hand picked Advisory Board and what did this do to factor in to keep this racial thing from happening. Understand we are a policy board. Understanding that we are a policy board, what does the African AmericanCommunity Relations board that you say represent, what do you want to see us do . We would like you to move with your full power recommendation of the chief to step down in a very noble way. We would like those officers that are on leave that they be suspended of pay and to take away that whole idea that if you want a vacation all you have to do is kill a black man and go on administrative leave. We want their pay suspended and we also want to see them arrested. If you dont have that power, we would ask this board to recommend to the chief that he have or the d. A. Have those men arrested and booked for murder. We would also like to see the videos from the case on third street. Kenneth hardy videos thats been held in hostage need to be released so we can see what happened on third street when that young man was killed. We would also like this commission to entertain the reengaging the African American police Community Relations board. Not an Advisory Board, but a relationship with the Police Department as a bridge from the community to the Police Department. Thank you, bishop king. We are going to change the mic out. It looks like there is some technical difficulties. I believe there is a technical issue. Is the volume all the way up. Chairman, susan loftus. To all the commissioners, chief suhr, ladies and gentlemen, my name is brown, president of the San Francisco branch of the National Association for the advancement of colored people and i have been pastor at Baptist Church for 40 years. I rose to say join russel says , wants to every man and nation comes a moment to decide in the strife of truth and falsehood for the good are evil side. My friends tonight should be for this commission and this entire city. Not a time to debate, but a time to decide to do the right thing. That right thing might be for you to respectfully consider is no. 1. Follow the program. That naacp presented to you over a year ago, and unfortunately has not been acted on. Didnt even follow through on the admonition. Just do it. What do you need to do . Not to get seals when you have persons who unfortunately dont have sense. The sense to know what to do. Thank you, sir. With tasers. Please let the next speaker talk. Reverend brown, i would like to hear further your thoughts on this issue. I would like to hear your further comments on the three point plan and other discussion. Three point plan on cultural relevancy training for all cadets, and for all officers in this Police Department. That would involve people not just talking theoretically from just a left brain approach, but also talking left brain right brain with persons from this community. From history and the compassion to come to that academy and sit with the officers as was done during the days of mayor willie brown and chief sanders were leading this department. We did a great thing. We need to put that back into action. Let the people come so that these officers will know that we are human. We are not a threat we are gods children and they dont need to be scared of us and we dont need to be scared of them when they show they have respect for our people. No. 2, it was referenced earlier by our bishop king that we need not just respect we need to have to hear from the chief that our king mentioned earlier. Not to be in the department or ego trip or power trip, but a board that has teeth that sits with the chief that communicates with this commission an we are acting on a crisis and well always move on a positive preventative measure. I plead with you all tonight. Let us act like San Francisco knows how to do it. We claim to be a liberal aggressive city. Let us not live a lie. Let us become truthful expressions of love, of justice, fair play, equality of opportunity and when we do that, we will not have to come back here again to take up your time to say the same old thing that we have been saying for a long time. Finally, just do it. Make a vigorous effort to go across this country and recruit able confident compassion persons who happen to be African Americans, latinos, for god knows there are others in the land who should be given a fair chance when we do this, when we smile, well be able to embrace each other and well be able to say, look what we did for the betterment of our city and when we do that, no more blood will be spilled in this city, but we will have our young men in jobs, in school, at home, in their places of sacred worship living in peoples conscious and goodwill. I thank you for your time. Lets just do it. Thank you, reverend brown. Next speaker. Good evening, ms. Brown and welcome. My name is paula brown. As i come here every wednesday to the Police Commission concerning my son. I would like to use the overhead. This is my son. Aubrey abrakasa. To this day his case has not been solved. Its been 9 years. Next year it will be a decade. The perpetrators are still running the street. The former mayor said i know who killed your son, the d. A. Knows who killed your son, and the police know who killed your son. After this, nothing was done. All im left with is my son laying in a cascade and a mother crying over his body. Ideal with this daily. I die