Developments in the controversy over Hillary Clintons jon Jonathan Karl is reporting that House Speaker john boehner is poised to announce a new investigation. Reporter Hillary Clinton may have hoped she put the email controversy behind her with the press conference. But the investigations are now about to begin. Top House Republicans tell abc news they expect Speaker John Boehner to announce a new house investigation next week into Hillary Clintons email practices as secretary of state. Including her admitted destruction of some 30,000 emails that she determined to be purely personal. As for how mrs. Clinton has handled the controversy so far, it seemed like a case study in how not to do damage control. She did not want to have two phones. She couldnt be like, hey, man, could you hold this other phone for me . Reporter nine days of silence. And then the reason she finally gave for not using government email at all . It would have been inconvenient. I thought using one device would be simpler. And obviously, it hasnt worked out that way. Reporter under state department rules, while she was secretary, if an employee used a private email account for official business, the email was to be turned over and entered into government computers. She didnt turn over any emails until 22 months after she left office. Why did you not go along with state department rules until nearly two years after you left office . The laws and regulations in effect when i was secretary of state allowed me to use my email for work. Reporter why did you wait to turn those emails over . The rules say you have to turn them over. I dont think i would be happy to have somebody talk to you about the rules. I was fully following every rule i was governed by. Reporter seeing mrs. Clinton on the defensive may be giving some democrats second thoughts. As one former obama aide told politico, you never quite feel like youre getting the full story. Will it matter to voters . In the polls since the controversy began, only 17 said theyre following the story closely. And she still has one of the highest Approval Ratings among all likely candidates, 50 . Its a hiccup. I have no concerns about what she did. Reporter and the email mess has gotten more complicated. The state department is acknowledging it was not routinely preserving any emails. Not even those sent to and from official state Department Email accounts. So while Hillary Clinton said the emails she was sending to employees on their state Department Email accounts were being preserved, it now turns out that that was often not the case. Lots more questioning coming from congress. Lets dig with in james carville, longtime clinton ally. Ana navarro. New yorker editor David Remnick and fox news anchor greta susteren. If you take this all and put it together, and you subtract 3. 1415 from pi, youre left with not very much. And thats at the end of the day, the republicans cant pass a budget, we have another investigation. Just like we had the white water. Just like you go through file gate. You go through travel gate. You go through seven or different eight congressional committees. You wonder why the public is not following this. Because they know what it is. It was something she did. It was legal. I suspect she didnt want louis doumit rifling through her emails. Which seems to me to be a kind of reasonable position for someone to take. It amounts to just like Everything Else before it, it amounts to nothing a bunch of people flapping their jaws about nothing. Nothing . Not one if its illegal, it violated the spirit of the law. She shouldnt have done it. What i cant get over, how stupid. I mean, she must have known that everyone would be looking at everything she did. What in the world was she thinking . Thats what i dont get over. She should have known better from the get go. Frankly, last august when trey gowdy wanted to first got wind of the fact that these emails existed, why didnt someone run over and negotiate a deal with her . Instead this blows up all over her. Maybe she thought the investigations were coming no matter what. Shes always thinking theres investigations coming no matter what. Thats w shes got this level for paranoia, need for control, this secrecy. This wasnt for convenience. Let me tell you. I want to thank james for reminding us of all of the other scandals. Because part of the problem with this is that it brings back a narrative that with the clintons come blurred lines. Like the song says. There comes drama and scandal. Just one more stripe on the zebra. No, no no. Its made up. Its made up. You take pi. You subtract 3. 1415, you dont end up with very much. I dont even understand what james just said. I think there was a reason. Heres the thing. I wish this were more convincing. You were not impressed by the press conference either . Not at all. Its one thing for a politician to be stupid, which Hillary Clinton is not. Its another thing for a politician to believe were stupid. And that is deflating. A lot of people that i know, myself included, are not likely to vote for a conservative republican come 20 months from now. A lot of our readers are in that camp. They want Hillary Clinton to be the best Hillary Clinton she can be in the absence of any competition in the democratic party. Which i also think is a bad thing. That will make it difficult for her to get into fighting shape . Yeah. Look at the obama will have clinton race in 2008. That made both candidates a hell of a lot better. To have to see that spectacle, like at the press conference, it brings back a lot of bad memories and bad instincts on the part of the clintons. James is right there were a lot of false scandals. There was a lot of stuff that i dont think it will change one vote. People who hated her from the beginning hated her. Those who loved her from the beginning, love her. The people in the middle probably havent heard much about it. A year from now, it will probably be a lot of noise. I think the fatal thing, though is she gave ammunition back to the original question to you, james. Taking your points about a lot of scandals in the past have evaporated over time. The clinton camp did demonstrate, i think in the last ten days, they were not up to speed. It took them a long time to figure out what the story was and to respond. This is not just spin. I actually believe this. In some ways this is good, because it reminds everybody of what it is. And so this happened. And its never going to stop. All right. Because its what i call a clinton rule. The rule that applies to the clintons. And then theres a rule that applies to everyone else. We agree. They think theyre above the rules. No, again, this is what it is. There are people out there like me that dont accept that. We dont accept the standard that some rules apply to the clintons and other rules apply to everyone else. You just stepped in it, james. You just stepped in it. No, you stepped in it. Thats the whole idea. The rule on the emails applied to them and not everyone else. Colin powell does the same thing, jeb bush does the same thing, you say, oh, thats colin powell. No. Its what she did was completely legal. Just as what jeb bush did and colin powell did. We do not accept it. May i address the jeb bush thing . Because its been the talking point du jour for all the democrats. Let me say this. May i please respond . Yeah. Im a little familiar with the email because i have been emailing that email since before jeb bush was governor. Jeb bush had that email before he was governor. Hillary set hers up the week she was in confirmation. Jeb bush has been one of the most transparent, if not the most transparent governors. He turned only a fraction of his emails over. Thats just a fact. 300,000 emails out there. How many of hillarys are out there . He has selfreported. Lets remember that these emails that hillary, is at some point going to turn over to the public, have been coming out under duress because of investigations. Jeb bush. Lets talk about the fact of how theyve handled it politically. Forget the merit. For a minute, lets entertain that its apples and apples. Jeb bush got ahead of the story. James, it took body to six days to create the earth. It took Hillary Clinton eight days to address the reports. The simple truth of matter is jeb bush released 10 of his emails. He had a private email server. Colin powell had a private email server. He destroyed his emails. When i say the clinton standard, i mean this. The press applies, they this story came from from the benghazi republicans on the scene. If you remember the New York Times printed eded a weapons of mass destruction story. The reason to go the war. The white water story comes from a bunch of old washed up in arkansas. I take every point you make. We have to take a quick break. The fact is the clintons are still dealing with it in the same way. Thats whats dispiriting potential supporters. And i think this kind of back and forth, with due respect, if that is going to be the nature of our campaign in the next 30 months, with issues like violence against women all around the world. Disparities in income and the insecurity and instability of the middle east and europe at stake, peoples livelihoods at stake. If this is whats at issue in the next 20 months were in very sad shape. We have to get to one of those other issues. You guys are going to come back. We have to get the latest now on the highstakes Nuclear Talks with iran. Secretary kerry back in switzerland overnight. This comes amid the controversy over the Senate Letter to the leaders of iran. Heres martha raddatz. Reporter president obama taking his latest shot at the 47 republican senators in an interview airing tomorrow on vice news. Im embarrassed for them. For them to address a letter to the ayatollah, who they claim is our mortal enemy, its close to unprecedented. Reporter the uproar over the letter growing. Just 16 days from the next deadline for Nuclear Talks between iran and the u. S. The letter warns any deal with iran must be approved by congress or the next president could revoke it with the stroke of a pen. Irans ayatollah firing back saying it was a sign of washington disintegrating. Now some who signed it having second thoughts on the strategy. Maybe that wasnt exactly the best way to do that. Reporter but the man who wrote it is not backing down. Were simply trying to say that congress has a constitutional role to approve any deal to make sure iran never gets Nuclear Weapons. Reporter and senator marco rubio took his defense of the letter and frustration with the talks even further, saying negotiations were hurting the fight against isis. The way we proceeded with our negotiations in iran have impacted our trust level with the critical allies in the coalition. That is flat wrong. Flat wrong. This is about a Nuclear Weapon potential. Thats it. The president has made it absolutely clear they will not get a Nuclear Weapon. Reporter the white house is firm it does not need congressional approval for a deal at this point. Down the road, if the president wants to roll back sanctions against iran, it might be a different story. For this week, martha raddatz, abc news, washington. Thanks to martha for that. Were joined by senator roy blunt from missouri. You signed the letter senator. Good morning. Thanks for joining us. We just heard in that piece john mccain saying some second thoughts. Your colleague ron johnson saying it might have been done in a different way. Do you have any second thoughts . No, i really dont, george. I think what was interesting was how aggressive the administration reacted. How aggressively the iranians reacted. That letter was essentially an op ed. It was released in every paper in the country. It said frankly what i have been saying for a year. And what the Senate ForeignRelations Committee has been saying for six months. There is a constitutional role for the senate if you want this to be binding and longterm. Senator bob corker did not sign the letter. The chairman of the Foreign Relations committee suggesting that this letter could backfire. This action from congress could backfire. And even if theres no deal, your goal right now, it will make it tougher to get the allies to go along with the crippling sanctions you want. Well, no deal is better than a bad deal. Senator corker sent his own letter. Which said dont go to the United Nations instead of the United States congress. The president sent a letter back. The secretary of state, i think the chief of staff said well have to go the u. N. We would me prefer not to go to the congress. I think that denies the longterm stability that any agreement with iran needs. We have shifted so dramatically from where we started. No enrichment. No Nuclear Weapon. Now were, okay, we want some time and space between when you can have Nuclear Weapons and were going to let you were going to understand that you will have capacity to do that. I think the negotiations have gone in a dramatically bad direction. Senator, you say no deal is better than a bad deal. Does that really hold if the allies blame the United States for undermining the deal and dont go along with the sanctions youre calling for . I think susan rice said the other day at a conference that in detter than a bad deal. In that case, i agree. Were so far from where we started here, george. I cant frankly imagine anything more destabilizing to the middle east or the decades in front of us than a nuclearcapable iran. Why we would be moving in that direction with now negotiating the months you need between the time they say we can have a Nuclear Weapon and they would have one or an end time when theres no restrictions at all. I assume what the administration is now playing for is hoping that before you get to the end date there is a better government in iran that wouldnt want to continually destabilize the world. Theyre already largely impacting the events in five capitals that they have control over. There are many capitals that are very, very concerned. About what will happen. Theyll want their Nuclear Weapon, as well, if we go down this path. Lets turn to the controversy over Hillary Clintons emails. You just heard John Jon Karl report that john boehner poised to announce a new investigation. Do you expect that in the senate as well . I dont know what will happen in the senate. I think this is reminiscent of what one of these campaigns will be like. The clintons can find a loophole in a stop sign, is what one of my favorite commentators said last week. I think were reminded of what its like when in spite of what mr. Carville says the rules that apply to them they clearly dont think are the rules that should apply to everybody else. How do you respond to critics that say its rich for congress to call for the investigations to level criticism like that when Congress Exempts itself from the very reporting requirements it imposes on other federal officials . The obligations of congress are different than the obligations for the secretary of state. The obligations for secretary of state to have a record, to maintain the record, to know what that record was are critical because that person is a critical negotiator. Just like john kerry is. Go back to the other point, theyre a critical negotiator. Theres a constitutional process you have to go to. Let me turn to the situation in ferguson, missouri. Youre the senator from missouri. We saw this week those officers shot after the demonstrations. After the city ajer decided to resign the police chief decided to rezane. What should happen now in ferguson . We need to look for everything we can to move forward. Ferguson and the country. The country is better than it was. 50 years ago when john louis led the march over the Edmund Pettus bridge. But were not nearly all we should be. We ought to be working on that. I think what happened this week goes back to august. When so much sudden obligation was placed on how the police were responding to Peaceful Protesters and not so Peaceful Protesters after the unfortunate, tragic end of the life of Michael Brown and all of the tragedy that that brought on everybody involved. We need to begin to look at how we move forward. You dont move forward by talking about things like the mill tarization the police. Its decisions need to be made by the police of how they protect themselves and how they protect others in the hard job they have to do. And, nobodys opposed to peaceful protest here. At some point, that protest needs to lead to what do we do about schools that need to work better than theyre working . And support systems for young men and women that need to be more than they are for people who dont have all the encouragement that they need and they dont end with opportunities. We need to do better moving forward. Thank you, senator. Coming up, more on the manhunt in ferguson and the new effort to recall the citys major. And walker versus bush. What theyre saying about each other over the weekend . And is jim webb ready for hillary . Were back in just two minutes. Bring your vision for the future to life. 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