1,100. So they tried to shift the focus away from the security. They are renaming the area where the pope is gonna be the francis festival grounds. There will be two pope parades. But looking at all of this, nia, up to this point. Mmhmm. And reminding people that this is a city of neighborhoods. Right. And its not like washington, d. C. , where you can just plop a world leader down and theres not gonna be anyone around. There are neighborhoods everywhere. Right. Do you have any fault with the way things have been handled up to this point . You know, this has been a difficult and tenuous situation for a lot of people involved. I mean, the mayor has done what he could with what he had. But what you have is too many chefs in the kitchen and everyone kind of going off and doing their own thing. From a communications standpoint, it would have been really more helpful if we had this kind of messaging early on with how this whole thing was going to be put out. We have Media Outlets now advertising, oh, you dont want to be in town for the pope . Well give you places to go. I mean, the messaging got off so early, and the unfortunate thing is, this is gonna be a fantastic event for the city. Instead, we got fear, fear, fear, fear, scare, scare, scare. And now its like, oh, no, come back, have a great time, welcome in. And i am hopeful im hopeful that people can turn this around and say, okay, i will participate. But, you know, its troubling because this was such a great opportunity to do a lot more with what we had here. Is there time to turn this around . I think theres time to salvage it, but there have been some real missteps. And i think ed rendell was right when he said there was, early on, an overreaction on the part of this administration in terms of deferring too much to the secret service. And now the Nutter Administration has sort of stood up to them and tried to work it out. But sort of the die has been cast. And just changing the name of. The traffic boxes. The traffic box to. Francis festival. Francis festival is just window dressing. The perception is out there that because of, as nia said, this fearmongering that came from the administration and, frankly, mea culpa, from the media. There is an element in this world that would love to put something off during this and get at pope francis. Yep. And thats still a real concern, and that is why you have this reaction, right, ed . Oh, sure, its the Boston Marathon effect. Its not that you wind up going after the people who are actually the headliners and the participants, its the spectators. Sure. And that explains why theres such a strong emphasis on security. I think were all saying the same thing, though. Its hard to unring the bell. And once youve rung the bell of security as loudly as they did, without very much thought about what it will do to peoples desire to attend, youve put yourself in a deficit situation. Now, this week, the archdiocese sent out notices throughout its School Systems and also all the supporters, and they have these placards and stickers theyll have that ill be there. Ill be there. Yep. Thats the latest push. Archbishop chaput spoke at the union league a couple weeks ago about the event. And he said, please, come. This is going to be a good event. And i think if people are willing to reexamine the entire concept, theyll find that it wont nearly be as terrible as it was initially described. Youll still have to walk a little bit. There are certain things you wont be able to bring into the area. And off camera, matt, you pointed out that. They mentioned explosives, which we thought was. But, you know, selfie sticks. People were like, selfie sticks . Got to have tall friends. What do you think, val . Well, i think larry said it right. I think it was as much a communication problem as anything, and it would have been nice if the administration, early on, had at least shown a face, well, were gonna push back against the secret service. Its our city. We know how to protect our city. And had that sort of communication mode to reassure people that the mayor and his administration was looking out for the pilgrims who were coming to the city and the people who live in the city. But, that being said, i think its gonna be a great event. Its gonna be great for the city. Its gonna have its pitfalls and people complaining, but i think its gonna be a really outstanding event. The Washington Post took a jab at philadelphia. Surprise. In an article written by francis stead sellers that said, philadelphia risks reinforcing the notion that it is a secondrate stopover between washington and new york city, both of which will host his holiness and appear to be taking his arrival in stride. And ill mention once again what i said about washington, d. C. They have vast areas that clear out at the end of the day. New york city does this all the time. They have 8 million, 9 Million People living there. They have the u. N. There. Right. So, i mean, im putting up a defense for philadelphia here. Absolutely. I mean, im not surprised that the Washington Post, anyone in the swamp, wants to jab at philadelphia. You know, just be jealous. Whatever. Were going to have the pope here. We have the world meeting of families here, okay . Just step back. But the truth of the matter is, we have a lot more density. We have a variety of different type of people that are coming in. And, you know, our geography is not quite laid out the same. And new york, yeah, they do this kind of thing perhaps with a little bit more regularity. But the events that are happening there are different. Theyre ticketed. Theyre smaller events. This is an event thats really open for the masses and the public, and so that in itself makes it a different logistical issue. So its apples and oranges, really, and the guy from the post needs to step back. Yes, philadelphias very much a livedin city. Yeah, absolutely. So its not the federal city thats got lots and lots of money and really not People Living anywhere proximate to those areas where they produce large crowds. But lets keep in mind that the world meeting of families in philadelphia has sold more tickets and has more attendees than any other world meeting of families thats been held anywhere else. And thats not known. Were saying it here. Well, we just said it on action news. There you go. There you go. I think i dont disagree with anything that you said, nia. But i do think its important when you read Something Like that in the Washington Post to not react overly defensively because and to actually react introspectively. Like, okay, what should we be doing that puts us in the same league as d. C. And new york . And that gets back to the sort of strategic discussion we had earlier about communications and so forth. And i think had we not gotten off on the wrong foot, that article would have never appeared in the first place. Sure, but, you know, its more than one foot. As i said before, you had the Nutter Administration, you had the people in jersey, you had the people from septa, you had the secret service. You had all these people getting together, and, unfortunately, you didnt have one face. They didnt come together and say, okay, this is going to be the face person and everythings gonna go this way. You had the world meeting of families faces. You had the mayor. You had septa. Everyone was doing their own ad hoc kind of this, and it wasnt as coordinated as possible. Could we have done it over . I dont know. But in addition to that, you also had media folks beating the drum and saying, hey, you guys are screwing this up. You guys are horrible. So why are we surprised that the Washington Post jumps on that bandwagon that weve already kind of started here in our own town . Leading up to this, if i hear one more reference to the santa thing, im gonna flip my lid. I mean, how many more times can we hear that . Whats that, like 40 years old now . Yeah, and he was a bad santa. [ laughter ] he was not only a bad santa, he was a 17yearold drunk santa. Yes, he was replacing the real one. He was replacing the real one. Thats why he was being pelted. Yeah. It was a moral act. He deserved it we have a very high santa standard in this town, and we will not abide a bad santa. Secretary of state john kerry was in town, actually came here to our studios here at action news. He was in town to give a speech on the polarizing iran nuclear deal. And given that theres about a quarter of a million jews living in the philadelphia area, when we sat down with kerry, we asked a question from israels perspective. If we were where israel is, less than 1,000 miles away from iran, would we feel as strongly or as strongly as you feel about this deal . I will speak today very directly to the fears of israel and of israelis, which i understand very, very well. It is our belief, deeply, that this will make israel safer. It already has made israel safer. The amount of time to be able to produce enough fissile material for one bomb was down to two months. We will now stretch that out. Weve already stretched it out. Weve reduced their stockpile. We have limited their centrifuges. Before that interview with kerry, senator coons of delaware and senator casey of pennsylvania joined a group of senators who will protect the agreement in congress, and weve seen senator booker of new jersey also join that group now. Ed, let me start with you. Youre the Foreign Policy analyst. Thoughts on kerrys visit. And also casey is a big get in terms of falling in line with other democrats. He is, and hes expressed some misgivings but said, in a world where you cant choose between perfection and something really bad, sometimes you have to take the least bad situation. Thats where bob casey landed. But kudos to you for that interview, specifically for that question. Because just on thursday, joe biden was in florida. He was at Debbie Wasserman schultzs constituency. Now, shes chair of the dnc. And joe biden said, i recognize that iran gets to keep 150 billion out of this. Theyre getting 150 billion they hadnt had. Its their money thats been held in other places, generally. Well, its sanctions, right. And theyre gonna put it to bad purposes, and there is an existential threat to israel. Which left people wandering aloud, did you just go off script and commit the classic washington gaffe of telling the truth . Or did you misspeak . This is not a good deal in a lot of different ways. John kerry came here in large part youll notice, the same day, Barbara Mikulski signed on as the 34th senator. So they get past the corker bill. Now their goal is to try to get enough senators so that they can filibuster. 60, yeah. Right. I think youre right that that windfall is now gonna fund hamas and hezbollah, and youre gonna see iran ratchet up its sponsorship of terrorism. By that same token, if this and steve coll wrote a great piece in the new yorker sort of laying this out as the best of a bunch of bad alternatives. And by that same token, his argument is, if this keeps iran from getting a bomb for 10 or 15 years, it gives a chance to the moderate forces in iran to develop. So, larry, yes, theyre playing for time. But keep this in mind the secretary refers to our friends the chinese and the russians, who, quite frankly, dont behave like our friends very often, especially when it comes to iran. And the administration went from, hell no, never, not ever will iran be able to do it, to, well, lets recognize reality. Itll happen someday. Lets push it far off. This deal will do it, and the u. N. Will make certain. However, no americans can be part of the inspection, no canadians can be part of the inspection, and there are secret codicils guiding the inspections, and you cant know what it is. Now go ahead and tell me its a good deal. Devils advocate, there was no inspections to start with. Right. So at least youre getting something. I wasnt in the room when they negotiated these deals, okay . So i cant speak from the ultimate expertise. But this is what i look at as a citizen and when i talk to other citizens. We all have a fear of another nucleararmed state, particularly one in the middle east where theres so much drama thats going on. However, if we can create some space and some time, because we all know, i believe even around this table, regular iranian people who just want to live, they dont want to live with this craziness, they dont necessarily like all their leadership, and they are interested in pursuing peaceful paths. We want to give them an opportunity to be able to rise up to that was true in 1938. Except when they had a green revolution at the beginning of the Obama Administration, we did nothing to support that. So now the Obama Administration is talking out of both sides of its mouth. On the one hand, we want to give the moderates a chance to take over. Maybe well have regime change. When we had a chance to get regime change, or at least support it, we sat on our hands. And you really have to wonder what this president is thinking. If you cannot learn from your mistakes, though, thats an issue. The Democratic Party is gonna have to live or die with this deal because they made it happen. They supported the president. And when iran first comes out and violates this agreement, which they will do in short order theyre already buying missiles from russia then theyre gonna live or die with it. And the Republican Party is gonna make sure of that. Well, you know, there are other countries also at stake. This is not just the United States doing. We all have to realize the people that were in that room negotiating i dont know. Like i said, i wasnt there. And im going to put my faith in the people who were there, whove been studying this, who look at this, and then have to do the best thing possible. We got about 30 seconds. What if this same deal was brokered between us and pakistan before we knew they had a nuclear bomb . Well, its a much different geopolitical environment, and, of course, india comes into play. cause pakistan just sort of got one, and that was it, you know . Look, if youre looking for some historical analogy that helps you understand this, go back to munich in 38, where churchill said of chamberlain, you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose the latter. You shall have the former, as well. That has to be the last word. Well be right back with more inside story. Inside story is presented by Temple University. Temple fuels students with academics and opportunities to take charge. Plugged into the city, powered by the world. Temple. Edu takecharge. Okay. So everyone is saying, hey youve gotta get fios but why . Why fios . Well, fios is a 100 percent Fiber Optics Networks to the home, so you can get 100 out of all your devices. And access to the Fastest Internet and in home wifi available. With big capacity too, so everyone in the house can be online all at once. Only fios has 500 meg download speeds, with equal upload speeds. So you can upload your favorite videos up to 5x faster than cable. 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Hes gonna be a guest on the late show with Stephen Colbert on thursday. What hes gonna say, i dont know. And then, before you jump in here, val, on thursday, biden, in front of an audience and a microphone and everything, openly questioned whether he had the Emotional Energy to run for president. So, jump in there, val. I dont know where to start now with all that. But, you know, i think governor rendells being charitable. I mean, what hillary handled improperly was the substance of it. I mean, she told lies all along. The Washington Post printed an article this week about the five hillary lies on this. First that she only wanted to use one device, and she was using several. Second, that she wasnt under subpoena when she was under subpoena. And third, that she didnt leak classified information and didnt have classified information on there and send that out, which proved to be untrue. And on and on. So thats really the problem. Its not a media picture of how i should have handled it. The substance of it was handled badly. I think the governors trying to bail her out by saying its a matter of politics over substance. I think, as so often happens with the clintons we dont know the total facts of this case yet but just the pattern, and its so exhausting, is that the coverup is always worse than the crime. They are addicted to coverup, it seems like. And after eight years, for whatever you want to say about president obama, its been a clean, nondramatic administration. And it would be such an exhausting thing to go back to these headlines. Anyone want to talk about biden . You know, i thought it was refreshingly honest that he said, im not sure where i am right now. And its also refreshingly biden. Its who he is. Hell just say whatever is on his mind, and we all know that upon the loss of his son, beau biden, that it was a hard blow to him. And i didnt think he was going to run for president even prior to that. But after that happened, i didnt see that, per se. I think more people were trying to talk him into it because theyre looking at Hillary Clintons not to say meltdown, but theres so many issues. And ive been talking to democrats all across the board. Theres some enthusias