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WPVI This Week With George Stephanopoulos November 27, 2016

Mike mullen. And [ speaking Foreign Language ] fidel castro dead at 90. What it means for cuba, its people and with the trump white house, is our renewed relationship hanging in the balance . From abc news, its this week. Here now coanchor martha raddatz. Good morning and thanks for joining us this holiday weekend. Hope you all had a great thanksgiving. It was a busy week for president elect donald trump who spent his holiday at maralago filling in his cabinet, detailing some surprising shifts on key campaign promises. And while he is yet to hold a its time to restore the bonds of trust between citizens. Let us give thanks for all that we have and let us boldly face the exciting new frontiers that lie ahead. The once divisive candidate now calling for unity. Well get to that in a moment with senator ted cruz. In his first sunday interview since dropping out of the race. Trump Senior Adviser Kellyanne Conway and senator Bernie Sanders. First, the world reacting to Fidel Castros death at 90. President obama who restored diplomatic relations with cuba offering his condolences saying the cuban people must know that they have a friend and partner in the United States of america. But will that friendship continue under donald trump . For more on that lets bring in jim avila in havana and tom llamas outside of trump tower in new york. Jim, lets start with you. We know cuba will observe nine days of official mourning. What will that look like . What is the mood like there on the ground . Reporter well, the sunday its a normal quiet sunday morning, maybe quieter than normal. People have been told to mourn here and thats what theyre doing. The state has tremendous power to rally the faithful. 90 of the people work for the government. Youth organizations are funded by the communist party. When they want to gather a crowd like tomorrow, it wont be difficult to rally the faithful here and theyll be out in force and theyll be out in force looking to celebrate Fidel Castros life and his revolution. Jim, castro did hold power longer than any National Leader except for Queen Elizabeth and while in power, he controlled almost aspect of cuban life. Will his death change peoples day to day life there . Reporter not right away. He has really stepped back in the last ten years since he was sick and just tried to be the conscience of the communist party. His brother raul has been running things handson and with approval of fidel castro, and things will continue along the same path until raul castro steps down as he promises to do by 2018. Youll have to wait for the Younger Generation of politicians here if theres going to be any change at all or some kind of popular revolt among the people. Tom llamas, you were there in front of trump tower. You covered the reflect throughout the campaign. Over the weekend both president obama and president elect trump released statements they were extremely contradictory in tone. President obamas statement talking about castros figure with enormous impact and donald trump saying today the world marks the passing of a brutal dictator who oppressed his own people for nearly six decades. Fidel castros legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights. On the campaign trail, trump promised he would reverse president obamas opening to cuba. Do you think that will happen or might castros death change all that . Reporter you know, martha, i think president elect trump sent two clear signals, first a statement. I cant tell you how many cuban american friends and relatives called me. Some who voted for trump, some who didnt, praising trumps language on castros brutal legacy. They loved the very blunt terms. The other thing is hes appointed one of the biggest supporters of the cuban embargo to his Transition Team at the treasury department. That is no accident. Of course, donald trump sort of changed his policy on cuba during his campaign in the primaries he said he was open to dialogue with cuba but wanted a better deal, then later during the general Election Campaign he said he would reverse president obamas executive order on cuba, if the castro regime did not meet our demands. Its unclear where this will play. Donald trump has to appoint secretary of state and our top diplomat where does cuba play on that persons list of important things when it comes to Foreign Policy. I think right now donald trump has sent clear signals that hes going to be very tough with cuba in the future. Martha. This story is so personal for you. Your grandparents and parents fled cuba as political exiles. You have talked very powerfully and emotionally this weekend about your cuban heritage. How has your family reacted to the news . And you . Reporter you know, i think as far as my family is concerned, theres a lot of joy. You see it on the streets of south florida with the celebrations in Little Havana and its not joy that an old frail man is dead. Thats not why theyre celebrating. Theyre celebrating because a very dark chapter in their life has ended. We were constantly reminded of castros legacy and brutal regime living in miami just 90 miles from havana and reminded when we had to send family medicines and food to cuba every week and money every month when fishermen would find empty rafts floating in the florida straits and our relatives would reach the United States legally. Ill never forget one time cousins i had never seen before had showed up to a hotel right off of biscayne bay and i remember telling my dad how thin they were. My cousins. The parents and the children were so thin and ill never forget martha, the children were much older than toddlers and walking and running around and yet still breastfed. Why . Because there was not enough milk to go around in cuba. Thanks tom for sharing that with us. Thanks to you jim as well. For more now lets turn to republican senator and former president ial candidate ted cruz of texas. Senator cruz, you heard tom talk about his family. You have cuban heritage as well from your dads side of the family. What was his reaction . Well, look, this is a powerful moment for people all across the country and especially for cuban americans. I was with my dad when he found out the news that fidel castro was dead and he simply said praise god. You know, for so many of us whose families had been in prison, had been tortured, seen the destruction of cuba that castro carried out, my dad as a teenager was tortured. Beaten in a prison cell. Had his teeth kicked out of his mouth. My aunt whom i adore, she fought in the counter revolution against castro and she and her two best friends in high school were thrown in prison and tortured as teenage girls. What they did to girls in cuban prisons was unspeakable. You know, i first heard that castro had passed the final judgment with a text from my cousin bb who said she got to call her mom and tell her mom fidel is dead. For a man who was tortured and murdered and oppressed for so many, it is thankful he is no longer with us. So many powerful stores like that. You put out a statement paying tribute to castros victims. Those who were against him. Do you think his death will open a new chapter for cubans . With increasing liberty for cubans . What happens next . Look, that is certainly my hope and my prayer. Unfortunately the policies of the Obama Administration have made that less likely. What the Obama Administration has done is strengthen raul castro. Raul is the dictator now. I asked my dad at dinner last night what do you think happens now that fidel is dead . And he shrugged and said raul has been in power for years. The system has gotten stronger and what obama has done is funneled billions of dollars to raul castro which is being used to oppress dissidence. In 2015 roughly 10,000 political arrests occurred in cuba, five times as many in 2010 when there were only about 2,000. This regime has gotten stronger because of a weak president , weak Foreign Policy and very much my hope and belief that with a new president coming into office in january, President Trump, a new administration, that u. S. Foreign policy towards our enemies whether they are iran or north korea will no longer be a policy of weakness and appeasement but instead using u. S. Strength to force and press for change but i look for the day ive never been to cuba. Ive never been to the land where my father was born or grew up. I look forward to coming to cuba and seeing a free cuba where people can live, where its pulled out of cuba is like the land that time forgot. Do you think the embargo was working . Do you want to double down on that . You know, what i will say is the economic pressure was having real effect. Cuba was a client state of the soviet union. For in many, many, years. When the soviets collapsed it put enormous pressure on cuba but then venezuela stepped in and provided dollars in exchange for troops. When the economy was cratering president obama stepped in with billions and is propping up the administration. This ought to be a moment where cubans are dancing in the street because theyre being liberated, but instead, listen, if you dance in the street, youre going to be thrown in jail. Cuba is not a free society. In 2015 some 2,000 churches in cuba were declared illegal. 100 were destroyed by the government. You dont have the freedom to worship god, to speak. And it is my hope that we will see u. S. Strength prompting real change and real freedom in cuba. Lets turn to president elect trump. You met with him last week in trump tower. You said you want to work with the new president in whatever capacity you can have the greatest impact. What capacity might that be . Well, listen, we have got a lot of work to do. This election was a mandate for change. It astonished everyone. The pundits, the pollsters. And it was an overwhelming mandate. Over 300 electoral votes and winning states that had gone democratic for years after year after years, like pennsylvania, michigan, iowa and wisconsin. We have a mandate for change and republicans have been given the opportunity, we have been given control of the white house, of every executive branch and both houses of congress. We cant blow it. We have got to deliver. So im excited about working with president elect trump, working with the new administration to actually deliver on the promises we have made, to repeal obamacare, to lift the burdens on Small Businesses, to unleash energy to on that point to confirm strong principle conservative Supreme Court justices. Mr. Trump has changed his tune. He wants to keep certain provisions of obamacare instead of repealing and replacing the law. That mankind may be causing Climate Change and abiding by the paris accord and that samesex marriage is settled law that he would not try to have the Supreme Court overturn. Do those changes in his tone concern you . Listen, what im going to work to do every day is to try to work closely with the new president. With the new administration. And with my colleagues in congress to deliver on what we promised. I got to say if we dont, if were given the white house and both houses of congress and dont deliver, i think therell be pitch forks in the streets. I think quite rightly. I think people are so fed up with washington. This election was a mandate with change and the most catastrophic thing republicans could do is go back to business as usual. Ill tell you there are a lot of do you have real concerns about what he said since . Listen, the new team that trump is bringing together is an impressive serious team. Jeff sessions as attorney general, i know jeff and worked closely with jeff in the senate. Jeff is a smart principled serious conservative. Hes going to make an excellent attorney general. Look at the National Security team coming around. The trump administration, it is a strong serious National Security team. Im encouraged by the team that is coming together by where their focus is. Im encouraged by their plan for the first 100 days to act aggressively, lifting the burdens on Small Businesses and job creators. Thats what the president should be doing and from my end, i want to do everything i can to help President Trump have an incredibly Successful Administration because if we deliver on the promises, thats how we actually turn the country around, bring back jobs and raise wages for people that are hurt. I also want to go back a little bit. Back to the campaign which at times was very bitter. You had some very strong words about then candidate trump. Listen to this. This man is a pathological liar. He doesnt know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. The man is utterly immoral. Morality does not exist for him. Do you regret any of those words . Well, listen, it was a hardfought campaign on all sides. And it was vigorous until the end. But at the end of the day the people have spoken. He won the election. He won the nomination and the general election in convincing manner. My focus is on the country. My focus is we have a new president. We have a mandate. We ought to deliver on that mandate. We ought to deliver. This election was about jobs, about the fact for the last eight years working men and women in this country have seen their lives and wages stagnant and factories closing. We need an administration that nights for the working men and women in this country. Thats my number one priority in the senate, fighting for 27 million texans for jobs, for economic growth. I want to go back to those words he lies practically every word that comes ow of his mouth. Do you think donald trump is a liar . You know, im not going to go back to the past. Im going to focus on the future and on whats in front of us and fixing the problems we have. I will say one thing thats going to be an interesting test in the next few days. I very much hope that we dont see any u. S. Government officials going to Fidel Castros funeral. I hope we dont see president obama and joe biden and Hillary Clinton and democrats lining up for a murderous tyrant and thug. If you wouldnt go to pots funeral because they were murdering communist dictators, then you shouldnt be doing what obama is doing which is celebrating fidel castro, a murderous dictator. Thanks so much. Thank you, martha. God bless. Lets bring in Donald Trumps Senior Adviser Kellyanne Conway. President elect trump said in his statement about Fidel Castros death that his administration will do all it can to ensure the cuban people can begin their journey toward prosperity and liberty but also promised to reverse president obamas opening to cuba. How will ending diplomatic relations and pulling american businesses out help achieve prosperity and liberty. Martha, first, thanks for having me. What president elect trump was saying is that the First Priority he has is to make sure the Political Prisoners are released and the people of cuba finally after 60 years of oppreo oppression know economic and political and religious freedom. He is opened to researching and in fact resetting relations with cuba but his criticism of what has happened in the last couple years is simple. Its that we got nothing in return. That by reopening diplomatic relations with cuba, allowing commercial aircraft and the rest that we really got nothing in return. We didnt get those Political Prisoners released or assurances that cubans who live on the island would be religiously and politically and economically free. And we respect the thousands and hundreds of thousands of cubans who live here who fled that oppression, fled that poverty, fled who they believe to be a dictator and as ted cruz is saying on your program, has 60 years of blood on his hands. We cant romanticize. We have to take a look at the way he ran his country to the democracy we have here in the United States. Its much like donald trump on trade. You dont just give up everything and get nothing in return. I think thats very clear in president elects message. Across any number of issues. He has to get all of that in return or he reverses the opening . He hasnt said that and hes open i discussed this with him directly. Hes open to any number of possibilities but we remain very firm that when you open up diplomatic relations as president obama has with cuba and fidel castro in the last several years, to get nothing in return including Political Prisoners and assurances that people on the island of cuba will be free politically, i personally and im sure you have victims of Fidel Castros oppression and his torture. I many years ago was touched as a young girl meeting an author who wrote a book. Against all hope in a movie made on the book and thats one example of many. We all have friends im sure who have those stories of cubans coming in the dead of night with 20 in their pocket and children strapped into a boat trying to come to the free land 60 miles away and they have done that. To the extent that President Trump can open up new conversations with cuba, it would have to be a very different cuba. Again hes all about america first. American workers, american interest, American Allies and certainly americans and in that regard, he wants to make sure that when the United States of america when hes president engages in any type of diplomatic relations or trade agreements for that matter and the like that we as america are being protected and are getting som

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