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WPVI This Week With George Stephanopoulos January 1, 2017

And predictions from a pair of high powered insiders. When you look mr. Speaker, at the trump presidency, what do you fear the most . From abc news, its this week. Here now chief White House Correspondent jonathan karl. Good morning. And welcome to the new year. Breaking overnight. A nightclub massacre in turkey. A gunman opened fire inside add crowded nightclub in istanbul killing at least 39 people. In this Surveillance Footage you can see gunfire. As the attacker shoots his way into the club. Police are searching for the shooter. No claim of responsibility. Turkeys president is calling it an act of terror. Well talk to the top democratic on the House Intelligence Committee on what we know about who is responsible for the attack. But first, the big political snow. T clear he is still not convinced that russia was behind the hack. He plans to meet with intelligence officials about it later this week. I just want them to be sure because its a pretty serious charge. I want them to be sure and i know a lot about hacking and hacking is a very hard thing to prove. So it could be somebody else. I also know things that other people dont know. And so they cannot be sure of the situation. But the white house is convinced. On thursday the fbi and the department of Homeland Security issued a report explaining how they say the russians did it. And president obama hit back closing down russian compounds in the United States and kicking 35 Russian Diplomats out of the country. But instead of retaliating, putin reached out directly to donald trump. Saying, while russia has every right to respond, hes going to wait to work to restore russia u. S. Relations based on trumps policies, not obamas. Trumps response, great move on delay by putin. I always knew he was very smart. We are joined by sean spicer, the Incoming White House communication director and press secretary in his first sunday show interview since being tapped for the job by president elect donald trump. Congratulations and thank you for being here. You bet. Good morning. Happy new year. The big news from president obama imposing those sanctions on russia, expelling those diplomats. Does president elect trump agree with the moves or will he reverse them . As he said hes going to sit down with with Intelligence Committee heads next week, get a full briefing. I think one of the questions we have is why the magnitude of this. When you look at 35 people being expelled, two sites being closed down, the question is is that response in proportion to the actions taken . Maybe it was, maybe it wasnt. Thats nothing we havent seen in modern history. When we look back we have seen diplomats hold on. Lets look at this. In 2015 china took over a million records, sensitive data, people like me, classified or personal information where we lived, things we had written down on our applications and security clearances and a white house statement wasnt issued. No action publicly was taken. Nothing. Nothing was taken when millions of people had their private information including information on security clearances that was shared. Not one thing happened. There is a question about whether there is a political retribution here versus a diplomatic response. It sounds like you think these measures are too much . The president elect needs to sit down with the heads of the Intelligence Committees next week and get a full briefing on what they knew, why they knew it and whether or not the Obama Administrations response was in proportion to the actions taken. Maybe it was, maybe it wasnt. We need to have that briefing first. I would argue that if you look at our history, you havent seen a response like that in modern history for any action. When you look at the fact that china did something so egregious in 2015 and the white house did nothing publicly, not even issue a statement except they sent thats all they did. They took action by sending a letter, not even taking action against china. What russia did we have to wait and see. It will be interesting. Its interesting because we have seen near universal support from republicans in congress. Mitch mcconnell called them a good first step and suggested that republicans in the senate may actually move to impose stiffer sanctions as punishment for russia. Does president elect trump oppose those efforts . What hes going to do is sit not the actions were taken. As you saw, president putin said hes not going to retaliate. In the way he initially suggested. He wants to wait for President Trump to commit. That shows you the power that President Trump has. Hes had success domestically to bring back jobs to carrier. And sprint. Hold on. And around the world foreign leaders are seeing what were seeing in this country which is that business as usual is over, President Trump is going to restore americas place in the globe. Whats the bottom line . A yes or no answer. Does president elect donald trump now accept the fact that russia was behind the dnc hack . Theres a report that came out the other day on the 29th that the Intelligence Committees put out and while the media played it up as a report about the hacking, if you look through it, a series of recommendations that should be taken like changing passwords, and what it shows is by all measures the Democratic National committee had a very lax it support. Hacking is wrong. No one supports anyone hacking into any entity legal, domestic or foreign but the fact is what the report shows is theres a need for them to go back in and look at what theyre doing itwise to protect their system. You do see the headline, russian malicious cyber activity. It makes it clear and names russia. Gives the ip addresses. And it says back up the system. Staff training. Absolutely. Mitigating applications. Does he accept russia is behind this . He has to have the briefing. From the Intelligence Committee next week. Still not there yet . Not a question of not there yet but getting the information. Everyone wants to make a conclusion based off other sourced information, anonymous sources. Hes going to do this right. This is not anonymous. This is a public statement. What this says is the dnc had a problem with the it security and people tried to hack it and they need to do a better job protecting. Were having part of a conversation. Why arent we talking about the other influences on the election . Why arent we talking about Hillary Clinton getting debate questions ahead of time. Thats an attempt to influence an election. Someone giving her the questions and answers of the election. Hey no. No. No. Its not hey. No one is asking those questions. The fact is that Everyone Wants to make donald trump admit to certain things. When do we talk about the other side which is what did Hillary Clinton do to influence the election . Is she being punished and what do we do to make sure the people dont get debate questions ahead of time . I can tell you this, if my boss got the questions and handed them off he would have been driven out of this town. Donald trump would have been vilified. No one wants to ask those questions now. Just to be clear that was during the democratic primary, not in the debates with donald trump. Let me move on. So it makes it better . No. I just want to be clear what were talking about. Youre going back to the primary. Im sorry. Thats who ultimately ended up with the democratic nominee. You cant say lets go back only partway. The fact of the matter is Bernie Sanders gave her a heck of a run. If he had not had the same information maybe he could have done great, maybe not. You cant have as part of a conversation. We have to look at it wholistically. Donald trump has had a lot to say about russia. Over the past couple of weeks. Right. In particular about Vladimir Putin. First he praised putin for sending him a nice letter and he thought his thoughts were correct and agreed putins mocking of Hillary Clinton saying its so true and most recently praising putins response to the sanctions. Saying i always knew he was very smart. Sean youre a long time republican, party of reagan. Isnt there something strange for you to hear the incoming president offering so many words of praise for russia . What happened . Right . The United States says were going to impose sanctions, call out people by name. The russian government says were going to retaliate in equal sense. Vladimir putin says i want to wait until donald trump comes. Thats good for our country. Everyone wants to talk about the tweets he sent. I would focus on the action hes getting. Donald trump is not president yet and hes getting action, successes and wins both abroad and here at home. Everything he does right now he gets he speaks for the head of sprint. Gets 5,000 jobs moved from abroad. Everyone starts to mock him. They werent announced. The sales jobs. These jobs are from abroad to america. Instead of trying to undermine him, its time people give him credit for getting things done. A broader question about russian u. S. Relations, paul ryan said, russia does not share americas interest, in fact, it is consistently sought to undermine them. John mccain in response said putin is a thug and a murderer. Is there a fundamental different world view on russia between these Republican Leaders and donald trump . Its an understanding of the role that russia plays in our world right now. They have the most number of Nuclear Weapons in the world. You can say were not going to have a relationship. They had a failed russian reset the last eight years. They wanted to have a relationship with russia and they failed. This president is going to have a relationship with russia and understand its in americas interest to have a relationship with russia where they dont pose a threat to our National Economic interest. That benefits every american. And i dont know why we wouldnt support that. At the end of the day if you view this differently as Republican Leaders . As a world leader that understands the United States has two other growing super powers, china and russia and to have a relationship with russia which we dont have because this administration had a failed reset that didnt go anywhere, and so right now they want to praise the fact they dont have a relationship. Donald trump recognizes that a good leader is going to protect americas interest by making sure that we have a relationship with russia, that our interests are protected, not theirs. I want to move on to the inauguration coming up. You have promised and we have heard trump talking about a big start to this administration. Right. What is the one big thing we are going to see after he takes the oval office . Not one big thing but many. Hes going to sign a series of executive orders. Two things. One, repeal a lot of regulations and actions taken by this administration over the last eight years that have hampered Economic Growth and job creation and hes going to start implementing things and bringing a new brand and institute a lobbying ban. Five years, its very forward thinking. What we have had in the past people looked in the rearview mirror. This time were thinking forward. If you want to serve in the Trump Administration youre going to serve this country, not yourself. Its going to be a five year ban on people going off to be lobbyist or a lifetime ban or anyone who wants to serve a foreign government. Youre the incoming press secretary and communications director. Ive got to ask you about what we saw in the New York Times last week. Headline about trump talking about expanding u. S. Nuclear ability. What struck me was the statement on twitter. In the beginning of the second paragraph. Mr. Trumps statement in a mid afternoon twitter post. Here big front page headlines generated by a mid afternoon twitter post. Is that what were going to see . Youre the press secretary. Sure. Why not . Major policy done via twitter . You know with all due respect, i think it freaks the media out that he has this following of over 45 million people. This is going to be a business as usual as ive said before. Theres a new sheriff in town. Hes going to do things first and foremost for the American People. Were going to see a lot of twitter . Absolutely. Why wouldnt he said on 60 minutes he was going to cut back. When he tweets he gets results. Whether its twitter, holding a news conference, picking up the phone, having a meeting he is going to make sure that he continues to fight for the American People every single day. Are you going to have regular White House Press briefings . Absolutely. Some way. Some will be on camera and some off. We understand the importance of the no more daily televised no decisions have been made but were looking at every facet of government, can we do it better. Ive had reporters say we have got ideas. This is about we understand that we have a message to get out and successes that we want the American People to understand. Well use every tool possible. Well sit down and make sure on a daily basis that press is important. Regular president ial press conference . Absolutely. Sean spicer, thank you for joining us. Were joined by congressman adam schiff the ranking democrat. On the House Intelligence Committee. Congressman schiff happy new year and thank you for joining us. Lets pick up with the russian hack. You heard from president elect trump last night saying hes still not convinced its the russians. He says hacking is hard to prove and it could be somebody else. You have been briefed on the intelligence. How solid is the evidence that it was the russians . Its very solid. Its overwhelming and the president elect as you know also said he knows things that other people dont know. He needs to stop talking this way. If hes going to have creditability as president he needs to stop talking this way and stop denograting the Intelligence Community. Hes going to have to rely on them and this is the overwhelming judgment of the Intelligence Community and all the members of the committees in congress, democrats and republicans none of us have any question about this. The only one who does is donald trump. This is the problem. Theres only one thing worse than someone who wins after everyone told them they would win and thats someone who wins after everyone told them they would not because they believe in the infallibility of their own judgment. This is dangerous. Doesnt the press secretary have a point on the response by the Obama Administration. We did have that hack by the chinese, the opm attack. This was 22 million federal employees affected. The Obama Administration did nothing that we know of publicly. Why did they do nothing but that huge hack done by china and this just on the way out the door make this big statement about the russia hack . I think what mr. Spicer fails to appreciate is there was one form of hacking for the purpose of foreign intelligence gathering. Thats what the chinese did with opm. The chinese gathered the information about federal employees they could use for their foreign intelligence purposes. Thats a serious offense. Its very serious. All nations gather. All nations. Steal data . Youre not going to prevent foreign nations from stealing data they think is in their interest. The best thing is to defend against it. Heres whats different. Russia didnt just steal data, they weaponized it. They dumped it with the intent of influencing the outcomes of the election. That is not something china has ever done. Not something russia has ever done here although it has done in europe and that is a different situation than the mere stealing information as serious as it was in chinas case and the administration handled both cases differently and that makes sense. Has the Obama Administration given something of a gift to the incoming Trump Administration on this . They took measures that perhaps were not all that serious, the russians could shrug them off and giving trump an opportunity to say whats done has been done and move on . If the trump folks are smart or shrewd politically they would view it that way and say he took care of the reprisals, didnt throw off relations with russia in terms of how im going to start out my presidency. He cleaned the deck for me. If hes smart thats the view hell take. In congress, we dont share that view. We dont think that the steps have been taken are enough of a deterrent. Youre going to see bipartisan support in congress for stronger sanctions against russia. If trump moves to undo what president obama has done here, whats going to be the congressional response . Even more vigorous. Im convinced in favor of stronger sanctions against russia. Youre going to see democrats and republicans like mccain and graham and others come together with a strong sanctions package. Even though what the administration did was more than symbolic, it was meaningful. It is not enough to deter russia. If you looked through that fbi report, it is clear that this was not the most sophisticated hack. Basically these democratic officials opened up suspicious attachments or gave their passwords when asked. This was this could have been prevented with less carelessness on the parts of the democrats . Im not sure thats right. There was carelessness and didnt follow best practices. The reality is if russia wants to get into a private organization, theyre going to get in. If you launch enough sphere fishing attacks no matter how sop

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