Then pope francis is coming to the u. S. , after a first stop in cuba. [ cheers and applause ] well have a live report from havana and preview the popes trip to the u. S. With two catholic leaders, the archbishop of washington, cardinal wuerhl, and thomas rosica, a vatican adviser. Plus our sunday panel weighs in on the u. S. Trained fighting force in syria. Its a small number. Were talking four or five. All right now on Fox News Sunday. Hello again from fox news in washington. Carly fiorina not only moved up to the main stage in the latest republican debate, she dominated it. Establishing herself as a top tier candidate. Well have an exclusive interview with fiorina in a moment, but first Fox News Senior National Correspondent john roberts got special best hind the scenes access to the Fiorina Campaign the last few days as she was taking her victory lap. [ chanting ] in what amounts to the political blink of an eye, Carly Fiorina has become the new darling of the republican party. Thank you, i will. So whats different since the first debate or before the first debate . In terms of the number of people who are coming out . The difference in the number of people is huge. Im less of a curiosity, and more of a, you know, thats the woman whos running for president. In mackinaw island, michigan, fiorina was mobbed. Fans who watched her debate performance angling for the chance to say they saw her, they spoke to her, they touched her. When you walked off that debate stage, what was going through your mind . Well, at a very practical level what was going through my mind is, i want to get off this stage now, i want to get out of these shoes, and i dont want to answer a single question until tomorrow morning. Her rise among the 2016 candidates would appear meet i dontic, but the road to get here was long and difficult. She lost a bit in california, spending much of the campaign ballotsing Breast Cancer. In greenville, South Carolina on friday, she told me that fight gave her the courage to shoot for the highest office in the land. When you face a lifethreatening or a tragic situation, you lose a lot of fe fear. And so the things that might have caused you to be afraid about something, im not afraid. Im really not afraid. Does anything scare you . Not really. How do you feel when you come in when youre about to give a speech in palpitations . Not palpitations. I feel focused, i feel excited. Before the event i had dinner with fiorina and her traveling staff, including frank sadler, who she whimsically described a winnie the pooh character. I call him eeyore. Eeyore is always worried. Often misinterpreted as stern, even cold in public, she smiles, even laughs, but eeyore and the rest of the team may have a whole set of new worries. A lot of people will be saying unkind things. It wont be the first time. I led hewlettpackard during a very difficult time, and many people said unkind things. I battled cancer, i buried a child. When you go through things like that, you really have perspective. It was the death of fiorinas stepdaughter that provided one of the most poignant moments of last debate. Lori fiorina died in 2009 after years of drug and alcohol addiction. As she told me about a poem that lori wrote to her, she showed a side of her persona that the public has likely never seen before. It says basically, i dont tell you enough i love you. And at the when you lose someone, realize you never say it enough. Its a perspective that keeps her grounded through the inevitable high it is and lows of the complain, the complaints, the criticism, adullation, and insults. Live is not measured in time, its not measured in success or wealth or all these things its measured in. Its measured in love and moments of grace and positive contribution. Fiorina has a big opportunity this week to demonstrate her range to a broad audience. Appears on the tonight show with jimmy fallon on monday, then a major Foreign Policy address to cadets in charleston on tuesday. Chris . John roberts inside the Fiorina Campaign, john, thank you. I sat down earlier can karl with fiorina to discuss her new moments tum and some of the issues shell have to confront. Welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Thank you, chris. Thanks for having me. You have noted up to now more than half of Republican Voters didnt know who you were. That obviously changed with the debate. So i guess the question is, how pivotal a moment is this for your campaign . Obviously a very pivotal moment. Now more people know who i am, and we know based on whats happening before this debate, as people come to know me and they understand who i am and what ive done and most importantly what i will do, they tend to support me. So the truth is were going to stay out here working hard every single day so that people who maybe were introduced to me for the first time at that debate now get to know a little bit more about me. These are important decisions. These are serious issues. I want the American People to know as much about me as possible, actually. Of course with greater attention does come greater scrutiny. Here is what you want about the Political Class in the debate. If someone has been in the sim their whole life, they dont know house difficult it is. Its not that politicians are bad people, its that theyve been in that system forever. To make your point, you say how long have we been talking about entitlement reform, but doing nothing about it, but ms. Fiorina, isnt that really less about being part of the system and more about the fact there are really, you know, sizable real differences between republicans and democrats . How would you as president get those two sides, which both have their point of view, to compromise . There are some real sizable differences, for sure. And the way i believe to bridge differences, the way to negotiate a good deal, and a lot of politics is negotiation. Ive done a lot of negotiating in my life, you start out by stating very clearly what your principles are, what you must have, what your walkaway position is. There cant be any misunderstanding about that. And then you enter into an openminded spirit of collaboration about Everything Else and try to find common ground. Thats how i would work with members of congress. On the other hand there is issues about which theres broad bipartisan agreement, yet nothing gets done. Tax reform doesnt happen. Everybody says they want to secure the border, it doesnt happen. Everything says our v. A. Is a scandal, nothing changes, so there are a lot of things about agreement and nothing is happening. I think its fair to say your biggest moment of the debate was when you called for the defunding of planned parenthood. Here that is. I dare Hillary Clinton, barack obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain. This is about the character of our nation, and if we will not stand up and force president obama to veto this bill, shame on us. First of all, do you acknowledge what every fact checker has found that, as horrific as that scene is, it was only described on the video by someone who claimed to have seen it, there is no actual footage of the incident you just mentioned . No, i dont accept that at all. Ive seen the footage, and i find it amazing, actually, that all these supposed Fact Checkers in the Mainstream Media claim this doesnt exist. Theyre trying to attack the authenticity of the videotape. I havent found a lot of people in the Mainstream Media who ever have watched these things. They will claim that someone watched it for us. I will continue to dare anyone to watch the videotapes. Anyone who wants to challenge me first will have to prove to me they watched it. You want eed 4. 4 Million Health services involving sexual diseases and infections, 3. 5 million in family planning, Cancer Screening and prevent. 1. 1 million other womens Health Services and, yes, 327,000 abortions. Misforn ms. Fiorina, i understand you want to end all abortions, but youre willing to cut off the funding for all those other tests . Of course not. Im a Breast Cancer survivor. Ive been engaged in programs that move aggressively into neighborhoods to make sure that all women are screened. Every single one of those womens Health Services that you just described are vital to be continued, and actually vital to be expanded. Of course we should be funding those things, but i find it fascinating that democrats will never support taxpayer funding, for example, for a Womens Health center right next door to a planned parenthood that will provide all those same services and also provide women an alternative to abortion. Of course those other Services Must be available to any woman and every woman, but thats not what this argument is about. This argument is about whether or not we as a nation are going to stand by while taxpayer money is being used to fund this kind of butchery. You brought up the question of taxpayer. You say that we should defund planned parenthood as part of the budget battle, which well get by the end of this month, even if that means we end up with a Government Shutdown, regardless of who is responsible for that Government Shutdown. Carol tobias,ed president of the national right to life, has written a column that a shutdown is a big mistake, its more important to elect a prolife president. She writes all these goals are effectively achieved if the 71 of American Voters opposed to a Government Shutdown arent angry at the prolife candidates running for president. Is she wrong when she says a shutdown would be a mistake . Well, i disagree with her on this. Ill tell you why. First, something very important has changed since the last Government Shutdown. What has changed is the republican parties has historic majorities in the house, and we now control the majority in the senate. A lot of people worked really hard to make that change, and think expected a change based on that majority. I think people want to know what do we stand for . What does our party stand for . What do i stand for . I will stay once again, president obama can explain to the American People why it is so important to him to continue to fund this organization that no one denies is engaged in this kind of barbarity. Finally i want to talk about your record as the ceo of hewlettpackard, which you know will be a big issue in the campaign. Back when you ran for the senate from california in 2010, democrats ran an ad against you, which a lot of people think sank you. Here its. Announcer fiorina tripled her salary, bought a Million Dollar yacht and five corporate jets. Im proud of what i did at hp. Question why wont these same facts a 45 drop in the value of hp stock, why wont those sink you again, maam . First of all, politics is so often a factfree zone. That ad is very misleading in many ways, and yes, all of that will be brought up, so of course its important to remember that i led hp during the Worst Technology recession in 25 years. The nasdaq, the technologyheavy stock index dropped by 80 . It took 15 years for that stock index to recover to its dotcom boom highs. Ms. Fiorina, if i may, though, youre kind of selective. The nasdaq dropped 80 in 2003. By 2005 when you were let go, it had only dropped 23 , only half the what hmm p stock had dropped at that point. You were twice as bad in terms of the stock price as the market was in to 05. Yes, and that technologyheavy stock index dropped again. So if you look at it over 15 years, you will see what i am describing is correct. You know, there are people who look at a stock one day at a time. I never led that way. The job of a chief executive is to build sustain away shareholder value over time. That is what we did. The hardest thing for a chief executive to do is to tell someone that they dont have a job anymore. Thats why we provided the richest severance packages in the industry, we provided counseling with employees so they could go on and find another job. When you have a big, bloated bureaucracy that costs too much, and becoming inept by the way, thats what we have in washington, d. C. , there are some jobs that have to go away. I will say as president of the United States, 256,000 baby boomers will retire out of the federal government in the next four or five years. I will not replace a single one. Finally theres a question that your rivals have brought up. Thats iran. At the time you were head of hp, there was a ban on any u. S. Companies doing business with iran. While you were ahead of the company, a european subsidiary sold hundreds of millions of computer equipment to iran and the s. E. C. Ended up investigating hp for what it said was violation of the sanctions against iran. How do you respond to that . Well, first, hp you need to remember was larger than each of the 50 states. Its a larger budget than any one of our 50 states and a global enterprise. So its possible to ensure nothing wrong ever happens. The question is what do you do when you find out . Are you saying you didnt know about it . Three years after in fact the s. E. C. Investigation proved that neither i nor anyone else in management knew about it, and the facts of the merit were that the european subsidiary was apparently doing business with another company in the middle east. That company was doing business with another company, that was doing doing business with iran. When the Company Discovered this three years after i left, they cut off all ties. The s. E. C. Investigated very thoroughly and concluded that no one in management was aware. At the time that company was making the sales to iran and you were the ceo of hp at the time was name hps wholesaler of the year. So how did it be they were doing all this business with iran . The hp was called the wholesaler of the year, and you didnt know what was going on . The whole searer of the year you were describing was doing business with another company, that is dove business with iran. Clearly that wholesaler of the year was not honest in their dealings with us, and they were not honest in dealings with this Third Company. Thats why the dealings with this organization were cut off immediately. It is why the company cooperated with the s. E. C. In a very thorough investigation and it is why no charges were ever filed, because it became clear that this Third Company was not honest or trust worthy. Needs was the organization they were doing business with. It shouldnt have happened, obviously. Ms. Fiorina, were going to have to leave it there. Yes. Okay. Safe travels on the campaign trail. Thanks, chris. Up next, well bring in our sunday group to discuss the latest controversy involving donald trump. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the changing space for the gop race . We may use your question on the air. Daughter do you and mom still have money with that broker . Dad yeah, 20 something years now. Thinking about what you want to do with your money . Daughter looking at options. What do you guys pay in fees . Dad i dont know exactly. Daughter if youre not happy do they have to pay you back . Dad it doesnt really work that way. Daughter you sure . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at charles schwab. We have a problem in this country. Its called muslims. We know our current president is one. You know hes not even an american the first question but anyway, we have Training Camps growing where they want to kill us. Thats my question. When can we get rid of them . Well be looking at a lot of things. Am i morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says bad or controversial about him . I dont think so, right . Donald trump last night defending how he handled that question at a New Hampshire town hall earlier in the week, and its time for our sunday group. Fox news senior political analyst brit hume, usa today columnest kirsten powers, strategist karl rove, and charles lane with the washington post. And Hillary Clinton really let him have it. Here she is. He should have, from the beginning repudiated that kind of rhetoric, that level of hatefulness in a questioner in an audience that he was appearing before. Brit, given that, and you can see in the recent poole, 43 of republicans say they think that mr. Obama is a muslim. Will this whole incident hurt donald trump or not . It certainly isnt going to hurt him with the hardcore supporters who are backing him now. Probably because of the idea that you see reflected in the poll you just showed. It will, however make some people look at him and say he is gaffprone. He feeds ammunition to the other party and to his critics. If he were nominated, there would be no end to this. It may raise doubts about him, but i think the people supporting him are not going to be daunted by this. We asked you for questions for the panel. We got this on facebook from richard mcelrath. Do you think trumpfever has finally broken . Or do you anticipate he will continue to suck all the oxygen out of the race . This news cnn poll shows that trump is at 24 , fiorina now in second place at 15 . That is an 8 drop from a couple weeks ago for trump and 12 rise for fiorina from a couple weeks ago. Karl, i should point out that trump routinely calls you a total loser. No, new york city get it right. Im a total, complete, incompetent jerk. Get it right. But whatever, between the debate and the town hall incident, do you think that trump trajectory has changed at all . How do you answer richard . And how do you react . I think it began several weeks ago when he made his originals co