Clinton was telling bankers something very different from what she was telling voters. Well ask john podesta, Clintons Campaign chairman, about the stark contradictions between what she was saying in public and private. Its a Fox News Sunday exclusive. And well ask our sunday panel after the leak of that recording, will the gop dump trump . Plus, a conversation with bill orielly about the election and media bias. The prevailing wisdom in washington, as you know, and in new york city is that we journalists know better than everybody. All right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. We begin with the latest on Hurricane Matthew. The deadly storm is now a posttropical cyclone with sustained winds of 75 Miles Per Hour. The storms track shows it over eastern north carolina, heading into the atlantic. Matthew has dumped more than a foot of rain on the coastal carolinas. More than a Million People have been left without power. The storm is blamed for at least ten deaths in the u. S. Well have much more on matthew later in the hour. Now to latest political storms with both campaigns in full damage control. Donald trumps lewd talk about women is sending shock waves through the republican party. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is dealing with the revelation of what she told bankers in those bigmoney speeches. And were just hours from the second president ial debate tonight in st. Louis. In a moment, well speak with john podesta, Clintons Campaign chairman. First, live from trump tower, former new york city mayor Rudy Giuliani, a top another visors adviser to the campaign. Lets start with the tape of trump talking to access hollywoods billy bush in 2005. He brags about hitting on a married woman and then says this. Im automatically attracted to beautiful its like a magnet. I dont even and when youre a star, they let you do it. Do whatever you want. Grab them by the [ bleep ]. Do anything. Mayor giuliani, we had booked kellyanne cann w Kellyanne Conway, the campaign manager, but late last night the campaign pulled her and said youll be our guest. Were always happy to have you. I got to ask you, was Kellyanne Conway unwilling to defend trumps remarks about women . Well, i dont think anyone is going to defend his remarks. Is kellyanne still a very strong supporter of donald trump and does she believe hed make a better president than Hillary Clinton . Absolutely, yes. I think had is a question of scheduling and not being willing to explain. Im not here to defend his comments. If he were here, he wouldnt be defending his comments. His comments were wrong. They were very wrong, reprehensible. Hes said that and apologized for it. I think what youre looking at is a man whos gone through 14 months of running for president , understands the weight on his shoulder of all of these people who voted for him, who believe in him, who believe hes really has a movement to try to change this country. They have outsiders taking it back from the insiders, who have been ruining it for quite some time. I think the point that we make is he has apologized for this, and we believe if you get to the issues, hes the candidate that is much better suited to run the country than Hillary Clinton, who has her own set of flaws. Were going to get to those in a moment, but i want to stay on i know you are. On donald trump. Around midnight on friday, trump put out a statement apologizing for his comments. Heres a clip of that. Ive said and done things i regret, and the words released today on this more than a decadeold video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words dont reflect who i am. I said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. Trump says the words dont reflect who i am, but mayor, theres a long history of trump making aggressive moves on women. Hes been sued for sexual harassment, and there are decades of insults of women. Dont these words reflect exactly who he is . No, they dont. I know donald trump for almost 30 years. Doesnt reflect the man that i know. Ive had many conversations with him. I may have had a conversation like that with him. I know a man whos been a wonderful father, whos brought up remarkable children, including two wonderful daughters and three granddaughters. Hes always dealt, in my time with him, hes always dealt with women with great respect. Hes been a gentleman. Are there things hes done wrong during that period of time or things that he said wrong that he wishes he didnt . Im sure there are. The reality is he also has gone through something that is transformational in a persons life, a president ial campaign. Hes gone through 14 months of being out there, hearing what people are worried about and afraid of. Afraid of losing their jobs, having lost their jobs, jobs being moved from ohio to mexico or from michigan to mexico or from pennsylvania to china. People who were worried theyre going to be completely out of work like the coal miners that Hillary Clinton says are all going to be fired and be gone. So these things weigh on you as a person. I went through it. They make you a lot more serious and literally make you into a different kind of person. I think september 11 and running for president made me into a different person. Sir, i dont mean to interrupt. I want to the get to a couple other issues. I know you want to talk about the hacked emails. One more question about trump, though, because there has been a storm of criticism inside the gop against trump, and some people are now calling for him to drop out. Lets put up some of the reaction. Dozens of gop leaders have abandoned him. House Speaker Paul Ryan said, i am sickened by what i heard today. Senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, these comments are repugnant and unacceptable in any circumstance. Congressman jason chaffetz, im out, im pulling my endorsement. Now, i know you say, well, thats the elite or the establishment. There are a lot of people who were Trump Supporters who have had enough. I guess my question is, if the gop, if leaders were to come to donald trump this week and say, for the good of the party, to save the gop majorities in the house and in the senate, youve got to step down. What will he do . Donald trump is running for president. He was selected many of those people are good friends of mine. In fact, i think they all are. Their opinion is given a great deal of weight and consideration. But he was selected by millions and millions of republicans who still very much believe in him, who i think are more willing to forgive, maybe, than some others, and more willing to realize that this is a different man today than the man that was reflected in those comments. This is a man who has a very heavy weight on his shoulders of having to determine the future of the supreme court, having to deal with the rising crime that last year was the largest number of murders, increase in the last 40, 41 years. So thats what i would say. I would say he would listen to them, but i believe hes going to remain in the race. In fact, i know he is. Finally, lets turn to the hacked emails of john podesta, which indicate that Hillary Clinton was saying something very different from what she said on the campaign trail when she was talking in those big money, closed door speeches to wall street bankers. She says her dream is open trade and open borders across the western hemisphere. She says the people on wall street know best how to regulate wall street, and she says she is far removed from the struggles of the middle class because of the fortunes that my husband and i now enjoy. Your reaction . Well and she also pointed out, i think, in one of them that shes a different person to them than she is she has to be different politically. So we have two Hillary Clintons, which says we have a person whos a liar. Chris, thats what she is. Over and over again. I can go through her 302s and Martha Stewart was prosecuted for one lie, i could have prosecuted her for ten. Like she didnt know that c meant confidential. Come on, hillary. You can put that one over on somebody but not me. So weve got two candidates that have flaws. Now, lets get to the issues. Who are going to be better on the issues . I do think one of the really horrible things about that is had those come out, Bernie Sanders would be the candidate now that wed be running against, not her. She fought so hard to keep those secret. We now know why. Because if she had run the way she ran on those tapes, for all those bankers she got paid millions of dollars for saying that stuff. She got paid for it. She would not be the candidate. Mayor giuliani, were going to have to cut it short. We thank you. Thanks for your time today, sir. Thank you. Hillary clinton goes into tonights debate hauling her own baggage. Hacked emails now reveal what clinton was telling wall street bankers and big money speeches behind closed doors. Transcripts she refused to make public. Joining me now only on Fox News Sunday, Clinton Campaign chairman john podesta. John, i promise well get to the trump tape in a moment. First, we need to talk about these hacked emails from your private account. To go back in time, lets hear what Hillary Clinton was telling voters in New Hampshire last february. Anybody who knows me who thinks that they can influence me, name anything theyve influenced me on. Just name one thing. Im out here every day saying im going to shut them down, im going after them, im going to jail them if they should be jailed, im going to break them up. But heres what clinton told bankers about regulation at one of those Goldman Sachs speeches. How do you get to the golden key . How do we figure out what works and the people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry. So john, whats her real view . Crack down on big money or kiss up to them . Well, chris, i think we should take a step back and say how we got here, which is that the russians, as senior members of the u. S. Government have c confi confirmed, have been hacking into democratic accounts, and now theyve hacked into my account. Theyve put out documents purported to be from my account, but i think if you look at what she said in this campaign, to get to your question, i would just say this should be of concern to everyone that the russians are trying to influence our election. But ill answer your question directly, which is as she said all throughout this campaign, shell crack down on wall street. She said it, too, theres nothing she hasnt said in private that she doesnt say in public. Shes put forward the most aggressive wall street plan of any candidate, really. She stands behind dodd frank. Donald trump wants to rip it away. She wont let wall street but john, what are we to make of the fact she says in private that the people who know the industry best in terms of regulation are the people who work on wall street . Thats hardly thats hardly a revelation. I mean, i think people on wall street know how to game the system. What she wants to do is crack down on the system, make sure that theres no institution thats too big to fail and theres no person thats too big to jail. So i think shes put forward very comprehensive ideas about that, how to reduce the size of big banks, and thats why Bernie Sanders yesterday after looking at those transcripts said that he stands behind her. What they worked together to produce on the democratic platform. Thats what shell do as president of the United States. Theres nothing exceptional in there. Well, the question its like what donald trump says. Hes the one to handle the tax system because he knows how to game it. Let me ask you about another one. During the campaign, clinton has taken a tough line on both trade and on immigration. But heres what she said in a big money speech to a brazilian bank. My dream is a hemispheric Common Market with open trade and open borders. Just think of what doubling the trade between the United States and latin america would mean for everybody in this room. John, open trade, open borders . Look, you could pluck a few words if thats what she did say out of context. I think, again, shes put forward and has been for and has constantly championed and voted for comprehensive Immigration Reform that modernizes our border security. When she was secretary of state, she talked about creating a hemispheric effort to Bring Clean Energy across the continent from the tip of south america to canada,s to invest in clean and renewable energy, to invest in the transmission that would clean up our energy system. You know, i think that shes constantly talked about that. She had an initiative when she was secretary of state to do that. So you got to look at the context of some of these a remarks. When you look at what she said about immigration, shes for comprehensive Immigration Reform that takes people out of the shadows, emphasizes family unity, but also has modernizes our border security. But john so you cant take a word here and a word there this gets to the heart of peoples concerns about Hillary Clinton. I want to take an excerpt from another one of her speeches. She said, you need both a public and a private position. The question is, when you see the speeches and then you see what shes saying on the campaign, and sometimes theyre diametrically opposed, whats her real position . Theyre not diametrically opposed. She talked about income inequality to wall street. She said we need to close the carried interest loophole. She said to them that even as early as 2008 that what they were doing with credit default swaps and the Housing Market was going to wreck the economy, which it did. Shes been tough with them when she was a senator from new york. Thats when shes done. Theyre not diametrically opposed. Again, you can pull a few words out of context, but what he said on this campaign trail is shell be tough on wall street. Thats exactly what shell do. All right. We have a little bit of time remaining. Your reaction to the trump tape . Well, my reaction is its disgusting. I think people saw in real life what weve been saying for our long time, what hillary said as far back as june, that hes unfit to be president of the United States. You see republicans leaving him in droves. There are now 46 Senior Republicans who said that he should either withdraw or they wont vote for him just since friday. So i think hell have some explaining himself to do tonight. But you know, this isnt an exception. Hes said the same horrible things about latinos, about africanamericans, about muslims. Hes made fun of a reporter with disabilities. You know, this is who this guy is. And i think that the American People just heard and saw for themselves in some graphic detail which, you know, i hope every voter actually takes the time to see what is really on that tape. I hope all of their children dont get to see whats on that tape. John podesta. John, thank you. Thanks for joining us today. Of course, well all be watching what happens in tonights debate. Up next, well bring in our sunday group to discuss the explosive reaction to trumps crude remarks, with some Top Republicans now calling on him to drop out of the race. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the impact of the trump tape . Go to facebook or twitter foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air. I moved on her, actually. She was down in palm beach. I moved on her and i failed. Ill admit. Lets be honest. Were living in the real world. This is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues were facing today. Donald trump apologizing and trying to turn the page after that leaked tape from 2005 showed him in a crude conversation about women. Its time now for our sunday group. Gop strategist karl rove, fox news political analyst juan williams, New York Times columnist, maureen dowd, author of the year of voting dangerously, and jason riley of the wall street journal. Karl, let me start with you. The rules of the republican party. Trump says hes not dropping out, and apparently its almost impossible. Maybe youll tell me im wrong. I know the house gop is going to have a Conference Call tomorrow morning to discuss all of this. How seriously is the idea of trying to find some way either by force or persuasion to get donald trump to drop out . Well, first of all, there are two steps to this. They cant force him out, but they could declare him somehowr the Republican National committee cant replace him unless we withdraws. Then they could replace him. But lets be realistic. The second problem is the states. Were already voting in more than a dozen states. Accepting absentee ballots in several more. There are ballots prepared in virtually every state. Its going to be impossible, virtually impossible, to replace donald trump if he were to decide to resign on most state ballots. Is this being talked about seriously . You have dozens of gop leaders, members of congress, members of the senate, talking about him, that he should step down. I wrote about this in may when we were contemplating the problem for Hillary Clinton being indicted after the democratic convention. Let me just tell you, im not a lawyer, but after talking to a lot of lawyers, its virtually impossible to replace somebody in august, let alone in october. If he were to decide to do it, it would take a week or so to get the National Committee together to arrive at this. Were talking about literally two or three weeks before the election. At