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election rigging. should they be trusted because they're trump appointed? or are they rigged too? >> every candidate that runs for office, i ran for office, you are allowed to contest an election. we all have that ability. you have the ability to go to court and do that. >> he's had the ability to do it. right now, he was making a statement, very clearly, about how he still feels about the 2020 election. but he's also looking forward respectively. the point i'm making is, kaitlin did not want to do that. she wanted to hang in and continue to talk about the 2020 election. she got the answers she wanted -- to be very clear on that. >> listen, i want to say on caitlin's behalf, she did a masterful job of fact checking a lie machine in realtime, in front of millions of people. it is very, very difficult to do what she did. nobody's gonna do it perfectly. but it is incredibly difficult to talk to somebody who's gonna say things, sometimes that are true, sometimes that are not true. i don't think anybody here thinks that donald trump is a paradigm of truth telling.