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Under george w. bush a microscopic $400, 0.7%. basically middle-class wages under donald trump despite the claim that the middle class are not making it in malibu. >> what is the gini coefficient you speak of? >> the gini coefficient is the measure that determines how much income inequality there is, 0% jeannie means total equality. 1.0 means rich people living in penthouses and poor people in the street starving. we are at 4.9 in this country, 4.8 a couple years ago and 4.7 when obama arrived. with high gini coefficients income inequality has fallen, washington dc, new york state and massachu...

Lot of things. great restaurants -- >> bill: she has momentum. >> the biggest crowds in iowa, too. >> bill: the president we're delivering results. focusing on homeletness and raising money. >> raising a ton of money. i like the fact he is focusing on homelessness and also inequality. the democrats own that issue and everywhere where democrats and progressives are in charge the inequality situation is by far the worst. san francisco, on one end of the scale is zero, everyone perfectly even. no one -- no inequality. the other side is 1.0. san francisco is closer to 1.0 where one group has all t...

Grow at 1.8%. you just said tax cuts are good. many are wondering these days, are the deficits, are the debts good? >> i think it's interesting for the washington establishment to ever talk about deficits or the debt when you know they haven't been concerned about that in recent memory. it's just up to the american people when given the opportunity will invest and better their communities and make the spending choice. they can't do that if taxes go up or a snap back to where they were before tax cuts 1.0. >> charles: rate cuts before we go to recession. you know, these kind of pay rot tax cuts...

Would democrats go against the middle class getting a payroll tax cut, the same one similar to what obama did twice? >> tax cuts can beneficial depending how they're timed or structured. the question is there any thought about it here. the biggest concern is not whether to be for or against a particular tax cut. the problem i think as jackie just indicated the volatility. there's an actual market, and economic price to uncertainty. we didn't just -- >> charles: but i'm talking about a potential tax cut though. if president trump said we're going from 6.2 to 4.2%, would democrats be on board fo...

Are two lanes here, right? >> boy, did we see that. >> there is sort of a hope and future lane, and tomorrow we'll have more of those candidates who will be on stage. there are three lanes. the second one is obviously the clear progressive lane which warren and sanders share. i was surprised they didn't try to narrow that down. they did seem, as chris said, to be kind of on the same team fighting off all the moderates to their left and to their right on that stage. but among the moderates, the job was to then narrow it down and become the moderate. because right now joe biden occupies that lan...