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interview. there's so much going on. we want to get the court ruling, which we will, but first, i wanted to get your thoughts, really, on the interview that you did and i want to play for our viewers the part where you did discuss what is a huge issue for the nation right now, one president who does oversee a doj, while a former president awaits trial. i want to play from your interview. >> i made a commitment that i would not in any way interfere with the justice department, who they prosecuted, if they prosecuted, how they proceeded. i've not spoken once, not one single time, with ...

counsel's investigation of donald trump and 2020 election inter interference. prosecutors interviewing the georgia secretary of state who was on that infamous call from trump asking gop officials to, quote, find votes. and president biden promotes bidenomics, embracing the phrase as he tries to sell voters on his economic policies. but will that strategy work? i'll ask the man who coined the slogan "it's the economy, stupid", the legendary democratic campaign strategist james carville. he'll join us live. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wo...

decision. first what the president just said, speaking live from the white house, i strongly, strongly disagree with the court's decision. he said the court walked away from decades of precedent and called this not a normal court. what was your reaction to what you just heard? >> my reaction is that actually the supreme court is finally bringing into alignment education law with employment law. for over 40 years the supreme court has been more conservative on employment law and has restricted use of race motivated by interests like diversity or equity or systemic racism or societal d...

amendment. now effecting millions of students and colleges across the country. justice clarence thomas, who has acknowledged affirmative action helped him, against the policy now, describing a color blind constitution. justice ketanji brown jackson, the court's first black woman justice, calling the decision, quote, a tragedy for us all. saying deeming race irrelevant in law does not make it so in life. tonight, president biden, again saying this is not a normal court, when asked a question today at the white house. you'll see the moment. terry moran at the court. mary bruce in the s...

hour of "chris jansing reports." i'm alex witt. ahead for us, kevin spacey on trial. the oscar award winning actor appears in court on multiple count of sexual assault. we're live in london. plus, a scathing report in the wake of jeffrey epstein's death. the d.a. blasts prisoner workers for multiple failures. a russian missile strike targets a crowded ukrainian restaurant right at dinner time. also, trump's growing legal woes, word that his former lawyer, rudy giuliani, met with the special counsel's office. our nbc news reporters are following all the latest developments. we w...