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Framents go on for 10 years which they will. they said 5 trillion not 1.75. joe always believed these programs would add to the deficit. biden said everything is paid for. what did the cbo tell us? $3 trillion is added to the deficit over 10 years and the energy part of the build back better will drive gas prices up. i listened to what he said. the cbo analysis that i requested made it impossible for joe manchin to build back better because he had three rules. number one you can't use gimmicks, number two, it can't add to the deficit. number three, it can't make inflation worse and the cbo ana...

Which was lowered to 3.5 trillion. now comes in at just under 2 trillion. your at the beginning was 1.7. where's the disconnect you are now and no, you can't get a yes? >> bret, first of all, when this all came about and i went and spoke to the leader, schumer at that time i explained him in the concerns i had. 1.5trillion is where i thought the most we could do if we just did it and basically took care of the things our highest priorities. bernie started at 6 trillion i think he was sincere what he thanks needs to be done and the changes he would like to make our social changes. they went to ...

Pass this through. he was the last hold out. they started off at $6 trillion. went to 3 trillion. and somewhere behind about 2 trillion to 1.75. he ultimately said 1.5 trillion was the final offer. but he did express concern about the extension of the child tax credit, extending that. he thought it went beyond one year. if you worked it out to ten years, said it would be a lot more. his colleagues, the democratic colleagues said look, this is not -- that is not what this bill is. this bill is paid for. and so there's a great deal of frustration and perhaps a sense of wasted time here in what t...

Time, i believe manchin would have wound up having to vote for a much larger bill now for the purpose of getting the infrastructure piece. manchin always said he thought the infrastructure, the hard infrastructure part of all this spending that biden wanted was good for the country. he was less certain the rest of it was good for the country. so yes, he did vote for that, but by allowing that bill to pass and republicans helping the white house do this, they gave joe manchin all the reasons he needed to kill this part of it, because he'd already been able to vote for something he thinks he can...

3.5 trillion. now comes in at just under 2 trillion. your at the beginning was 1.7. where's the disconnect you are now and no, you can't get a yes? >> bret, first of all, when this all came about and i went and spoke to the leader, schumer at that time i explained him in the concerns i had. 1.5trillion is where i thought the most we could do if we just did it and basically took care of the things our highest priorities. bernie started at 6 trillion i think he was sincere what he thanks needs to be done and the changes he would like to make our social changes. they went to three and half trilli...