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Begins to collapse. Now, with a panel of 12 jurors and six alternate jurors assembled and empanelled with a Purpose And Mission of determining trumps criminal fate we are left to wonder if the Title Wave crashing around us will get us. It is that we will get to with our favorite experts and friends. To with our favorite experts and friends. Msnbc legal analyst, but we start with my Friend And Colleague msnbc legal correspondent Lisa Ruben just came out of the courtroom for us. The courtroom we are in, on the 15th floor. One of the more dreary places i have been in a courthouse t. Is wood panel...

Point former chief of staff of the department of homeland security, miles taylor is here but we start with my friend and colleague, msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin, she has just come out of the courtroom forest. >> the courtroom that we are in on the 15th floor here is one of the more dreary places i've ever been in a courthouse. it is woodpaneled, but it has no hearts whatsoever. there are more courts than there are anything else, stapled to the wall point the one thing that is says in this courtroom very clearly is in god we trust and get that very pedestrian dreary courtroom is where ...

Outside. we reported on a little bit of the back and forth between trump's legal team and the prosecutors about the evidence should trump take the stand, but i really want to understand what happened in the final minutes where the judge seemed to lose his patience with trump's lawyers wanting to relitigate every individual motion. take us inside that. >> reporter: that's right. the courtroom that we're in on the 15th floor here is one of the more dreary places i have ever been in a courthouse. it is wood panelled, but it has no art whatsoever. there are more cords than there are anything else....

Locking them down. they're just trying to do everything they can to make sure that they're coming in and out without interaction. >> there's an irony there, there's this extra security because of the secret service protecting the former president but in terms of who actually needs protection in this situation, it seems it's actually the jurors as much, if not more. the situation is bizarre. >> it's kind of -- yeah, and the other thing is you go through security when you come into the building in the morning, everybody goes through this, and then when you get to the 15th floor, there is a whole...

Get into an elevator and have jurors in the elevator, and i've been in a situation like that where we've been called in front of a judge after that has happened. also donald trump has to get out of the building, and he has secret service. the most important thing is those jurors get out and they have no interaction with anybody involved in the case. so it can take time. today i was coming up to the show, i hoped to kind of try to get out of there with a little bit of time on the subway, and i was locked in the courtroom until 3:23, 3:25 and had to run up here. they were not letting anybody out...