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stories about him disparaging the men and women of the military, calling them suckers and losers. he doesn't seem to care about the facts of january 6th coming out. he was reported by two people i was talking to at the time to care very much about the material covered by stormy daniels. these are things that get right up into his stuff. >> reporter: absolutely. get him respond. look, we've got opening statements that i believe just are literally that commercial break, the judge announcing saying, quote, we're going to have opening statements on monday morning. this trial is starting. and donald trump, he has tried to avoid this moment. his legal team has fought on his behalf, his most -- defense lawyers will try to do to avoid these moments, to avoid these circumstances here. and yet even -- just here in the last 30 minutes, his team trying to put forward several pre-motion motions in front of the judge to which the judge snapped back saying, quote, i have handed down decisions,

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that woman. i don't know her. wait, it's marla? that's my wife. it's e. jean carroll. and then this is just -- epically offensive, which i guess goes to my question for neil, will he or won't he take the stand? is it true that stars can grab women by are the p-word, trump, if you look over the last -- this is my favorite -- million years, it's been largely true. for a million years stars have been able to grab women in the p-word. and you consider yourself to be a star? quote, i think you can say that, yeah. i mean, is there really a chance that that man will take the stand in front of a jury? >> reporter: i contend yes, and that is because after covering donald trump for all of these years, this is a man who has a hard time resisting the microphone or resisting the keyboard and likes to go on the attack. when we're talking about weeks of potential key witnesses from stormy daniels to david pecker taking the stand, you know, this

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it. they have got security to get up to the floor. it's not like they are not trying and they are not i paying attention, and they are not there. but you saw what happened today when all of them are there. >> it's incredible. will you be back on monday with us? >> i will. >> tell us what happened every day. that's your chair. frank, vaughn, thank you. susan craig, thank you. a reminder for headlines and analysis of the trial, you can subscribe to the deadline legal newsletter. scan the qr code so you can have it delivered to your inbox. up next for us, our reporter is outside the courthouse making her way to the cam a ra. more on the last hour of the hearing. another quick break. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. break. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back.

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>> reporter: to give everybody an idea of the courthouse district. we're two blocks away from where the civil fraud trial, where that trial took place. this is on 100 center street. below us, donald trump has since left for the day as well as the jurors. but you can see center street was shut down earlier today after the incident outside here. but now the traffic is slowing again. i'm keen to see what sort of precautions are taken here after this event that transpired today. of course, the concern here in new york city specifically is that the jurors have their neighborhoods already identified. this is part of the public process of a trial, but the neighborhoods in new york city are all that wig. they are a couple blocks wide. so we even heard just from one potential juror today, one that broke down crying, another juror, she said, i have really, really bad anxiety. people have found out where i am. i i don't think im i'll be able to be completely here. that was somebody who was not put on to the jury, but that was

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those cases regarding the verdict in the civil fraud trial. trump's attorneys arguing that to bring it up would send jurors down a, quote, rabbit hole. that's where we start with some of our favorite reporters and friends. nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is back outside the courthouse for us. plus, former acting solicitor general, msnbc legal analyst here, with me at the table once again, "new york times" investigative reporter sue craig is back. she spent the day inside the courthouse. also joining us, the host of "politics nation" here on msnbc and the president of the national action network, the reverend al sharpton here. vaughn hillyard, i start with you. you're at the scene of all the action. bring us up to speed. >> reporter: right. it was a difficult day here particularly the middle of the day just before lunch break when right after those six alternates were officially sworn in and we were able to announce that we had a full jury slot of 18 individuals, there was a man outside of the courthouse just

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comply with the law, she was none too happy about being there or ultimately faced with the prospect of serving on that jury and was relieved to be released. >> under pressure is perfect pap that's what it felt like as you watched owl the tragic events unfold outside the courthouse. take me through what happens monday. >> reporter: on monday, we'll start opening statements 9:30. we'll have 12 jurors in the box. those of us who are on a designated list for press, me included for this network, will be in the courtroom itself. that's different from the last several days of jury selection, where we had to be somewhat insulated from the perspective jurors. and then the prosecution will get their opportunity to go through their theory of this case. you know that in the press we're referring to the case as the hush money case, but they have maintained that's really not what this is about at all. that's only the ain't see dent to the crimes they have charged. 34 fell fli counts of false i if

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day of jury selection. they were selecting the final alternates today. >> reporter: today is taylor swift today, but the theme of today if we had had to put it in a song is david bowie and queen's "under pressure." you saw juror upon juror really start to crack and show their anxiety and nervousness at even participating in this proceeding. we had one young woman who said her father was friends with a let's call him a nemesis of the former president. and eventually when she was questioned abouter her ability to stay impartial and weigh the evidence and her feelings about the tomorrower president, burst into tears on voir dire, who is a rather mild mannered person even though she was being forceful in it her words, she's a mild-mannered person. and yet this perspective juror burst into tears and was take ton a side bar to further

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criminal risk. >> reporter: absolutely. but if it means -- potentially being able to win the white house and suspend if he were to be found guilty and suspend any sort of a prison time, i guess the question is what are the stakes even if it means potentially throwing himself in the middle of this and despite whatever his counsel tries to do and convince him on his own behalf, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. of course his liam team i think as you -- legal team i think as you are much more legally equipped to be making this argument. from a political lens, which i think donald trump so often views even the legal, i think that it's still very much within the realm of possibility he could decide to go that route. >> one other piece of reporting that i remember wishing i didn't possess at the time was his rage at the book drafted by stormy daniels, particularly her descriptions of their intimate moments. i mean, this is -- he doesn't care about being called an incompetent commander in chief, he doesn't care about the

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outside. we reported on a little bit of the back and forth between trump's legal team and the prosecutors about the evidence should trump take the stand, but i really want to understand what happened in the final minutes where the judge seemed to lose his patience with trump's lawyers wanting to relitigate every individual motion. take us inside that. >> reporter: that's right. the courtroom that we're in on the 15th floor here is one of the more dreary places i have ever been in a courthouse. it is wood panelled, but it has no art whatsoever. there are more cords than there are anything else. they are stapled to the wall. and the one thing it says in this courtroom clearly is in god we trust. yet, that very pedestrian dreary courtroom is where something extraordinary happened this afternoon. because the judge had to goo through the premotion letters that the defense has buried him under. most of them are about things that have already been

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decide to. if it's wide open, i can't imagine he's going to open himself up to that sort of cross-examination. >> and vaughn, when are we expecting decisions or rulings on the evidence from judge marchand? >> reporter: we're expecting here over the course of this afternoon. this process could take as short as an hour here. they're already currently i believe on the fourth previous trial determination that they are going through. of course it's the prosecution that first presents why they believe that they should be able to bring up these determinations, one of the prosecutors for the district attorney's office saying, quote, it's hard to think of something more skbarly in the wheelhouse than a finding by a judge of persistent fraud and illegality. just a moment ago, another quote i'll read you, there's a particular need for the people to assess the defendant's credibility and they intend to make witness credibility the centerpiece for the trial, and that is an argument for permitting this evidence here. essentially making the case that, look, the defense wants to

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