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Charge of the recovery act and it was hard as hell to get the votes for it to begin with. And then it was hard as hell to get the number even we got. But one thing we learned, is we cant do too much here. We could do too little. We could do too little and sputter. Real live people are hurting and we could fix it. And we could fix it. That is has been his message from the beginning. And President Biden is focused on this today. Hes expecting to speak live later this hour and on how ep plans to revised the economy in response to covid. And the latest jobs report came out this morning showing onl...

>> that was a lifetime ago. >> that was a lifetime ago. but, you know, she made a big point, if she was born in iowa, this was going to be her state. this was going to be -- >> so you think she might drop out or, given her money situation? >> soul searching is what you -- i think, yes. >> and if you're rick perry, what justification do you have for going forward? just because you've got money in the bank? >> the justification of going forward, i talked to rick perry today. he said he's the only conservative who can mount a national effort, fund-raising effort, against mitt romney. ca...