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Then separating their children from them, i don't believe we should do that. the other way this would be helpful is actually allow us to get through the backlog of cases of asylum claims and other cases better if we invest in immigration judiciary and treat this as a civil matter so people aren't waiting in this country in limbo for years and years. so there's a better way to do this. if you're somebody out there concerned about this issue, and i can understand why someone would be concerned if you had 144,000 people coming last month to the southern border. but there's a better, more effectiv...

There and their families no matter what their politics are. and we need a president that actually wants a solution and not just a circus. >> very quickly i know that you want to change the categorization of the immigrants that show up at the border from putting them in a criminal category to civil. but how does that help? how does that stop the 144,000 people from showing up at the border who need help? how does that help solve the humanitarian crisis there? >> the first thing i'd say is this is how we used to do it from about the late 1920s to the early 2000s. this was actually treated as a c...

Them so their people can find safety and opportunity at home over there so 144,000 people don't have to come to our southern border. that's what real long term leadership is about and e about getting to the root of the challenge instead of just being reactionary and trying to use immigration and immigrants as scapegoats to win another election. >> you're a former housing secretary during the obama administration. you just unveiled a new dramatic housing program. a housing policy. give us the headline briefly what you think could be achieved to deal with housing for poorer americans. >> i see h...

Have peace in the region. judge jeanine: last month 144,000 people, illegals who cross our border, we don't have $5 billion to build a wall. so then how are we paying for about a million illegals in the last 10 months, you know, who are the crazy part being released into the interior of the united states who would then give education, medication, housing to. are we taking care of these people? we are, right? we are paying for this. >> we are paying for this. but remember it's 144,000 people who are paying just last month. these are the only people we caught. we want to have a million people th...

Judge jeanine: last month 144,000 people, illegals who cross our border, we don't have $5 billion to build a wall. so then how are we paying for about a million illegals in the last 10 months, you know, who are the crazy part being released into the interior of the united states who would then give education, medication, housing to. are we taking care of these people? we are, right? we are paying for this. >> we are paying for this. but remember it's 144,000 people who are paying just last month. these are the only people we caught. we want to have a million people this year. that's twice the ...