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>> i mostly agree with norma and speaker pelosi. it's clear this president has committed felonies, in particular a violation of section 1512 b 3 of the criminal code when he obstructed justice three times. but at the same time we don't have the votes in the senate to remove trump from the presidency. and so we need build support in this country, the country about 1/2 support impeachment and removal from office. we need show them more facts, investigations. we'll show them those facts and investigations. but if we hadn't talked about impeachment at all in washington, trump -- imagine what trump...

Only the people watching cnn but those who are unfortunately watching fox at this point to realize that this president has crossed so many lines. >> okay. well, let's listen to what else she had to say and then we'll discuss. here it is. >> i just don't believe in it. they wanted to impeach president bush for the iraq war. i didn't believe in it then. i don't believe in it now. it divides the country. unless there's some conclusive evidence that takes us to that place. >> that was the crux of the other question before. unless there's some conclusive evidence. have you seen any kind of conclusi...

Misdemeanors. many felonies. he violated section 1512 b-3 of the criminal code when he threatened comey in order to protect flynn. he violated it again when he fired comey in order to derail the investigation of the russian involvement in our election. and he did it a third time when he threatened mueller in order to prevent mueller from looking at his personal finances. the question isn't whether he's committed felonies and whether they've been well documented because all these things are open and notorious. the question is do we have the political support in the country so that we'd have not...

They indicated they plan to release documents to the committee by next week's deadline. it is over concerns he did in the tell the truth last month, jake. >> all right. thank you. joining me now is brad sherman. congressman, thanks for joining us. he is arguing impeachment is so devicive unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming i don't think we should go down that path you disagree, why? >> he met the legal standard. he committed several felonies including violation of 1512b3 on at least two occasions, probably three and that's in the first six months. >> that's in your opinion....

The united states and postponed until tomorrow. i don't think this is going to affect him one way or another. it may make him more determined, actually, to say what he's going to say. and what our sources are telling us is that he's going to portray the president as a liar and a cheater, and he may bring some financial documents with him. but it's going to be a very unflattering portrait, which of course the president is very nervous about. and i just want to point out something that my colleague, pamela brown just found out about from rudy giuliani. we know how concerned the president is abou...