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Billion in cuts the republicans are calling for is tiny in the context of the $1,650 billion that we are borrowing and spending this year, that we do not have to spend. i think that's very modest, it's quite a compromise to start with, the idea that they're somehow being unreasonable or extreme is a little silly. however this gets resolved, i also agree with michele bachmann. the much bigger fight over government spending comes in 2010. i think chairman ryan's put together a very good budget that gives the country a choice of the long term fiscal path we want to be on, and wage hether want to ...

Tea party, different degrees of phoniness, some of them are legitimate grass routes connected. yours i don't think qualifies in that description. >> we have 1.7 million activists nationally. >> let me get to what michele bachmann said today. you heard her saying that she believes we should just get this 2011 deal done and move on. you heard mike pence say to your rally today, shut it down. who is right? michele bachmann or mike pence? >> i think there was a very important predicate in the statement from mike pence that you're trying to skip over, that is, if we cannot even get modest spending ...

Context of the $1,650 billion that we are borrowing and spending this year, that we do not have to spend. i think that's very modest, it's quite a compromise to start with, the idea that they're somehow being unreasonable or extreme is a little silly. however this gets resolved, i also agree with michele bachmann. the much bigger fight over government spending comes in 2010. i think chairman ryan's put together a very good budget that gives the country a choice of the long term fiscal path we want to be on, and whether we want to cut $6.2 trillion. >> you are in favor of a government shutdown ...