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Thing. the individual mandate would be a great tax cut for the middle class, for small businesses and people who have been really hurt lately have been millennials. they're young adults, overpaying for health care and on the hook for pensions and the u.s. debt and state municipal debt. let's give them a break. david: and bruce, according to cbo it's going to be good for the debt itself. they say dumping the mandate will save the country $338 billion over ten years. that's a lot of money. >> well, i have no doubt that the idea is to get fewer people covered so they can free up money to give tax...

People and the common good. the fact is that 80 times as many people will benefit from repealing the mandate as will be harmed. this is why. not only do you have the nine million people i just cited, but in addition, 35 million families will see their child tax credit doubled. that's the savings from repealing this mandate penalty will be used for. $338 billion will enable to senate to double the child tax credit from $1,000 to $2,000. this will benefit 35 million families. on the other side, there's only 80,000 people enrolled in obamacare that would have to pay the higher premium and not hav...

Get the national deficit. i don't know how many times we heard, we are burdening our kids and their kids. i mean, central tenant, paul ryan, mcconnell, everyone who was a leader of the party. so you're going to have to get over that that, because even with the 338 billion you save by from the deficit by adding in the individual mandate repeal, it's still going to add to the deficit. so, that's going to be a problem. lisa murkowski, it sounds like mccain's on board, but what i would say on all of these things, the coalitions are different. don't assume that well because mccain's on board and he...

$1200. but then shrinks to $860. the tact cuts fluctuate depending on those income. the bottom half cuts are less than half a percent next year. nearly vanish by the year 2027 while the top earners still benefit. it's all about the budget. republicans need to find a way to pay for these tax cuts over time. reducing costs is one version the senate version -- not paying for those people, saves the government $338 billion. also means premium increases about 10% a year. critics worrying higher premiums will wipe out the tax rereef. >> meanwhile a rare bipartisan agreement, the bill to strengthen b...

Republicans is right in line with how they campaigned. >> and to your point that is what the supreme court did say, they did say individual mandate was a tax and allowed. >> number two, they need the money. $338 billion that they need to get this done. so i support the inclusion of it. i do agree that it complicates maybe one or two votes. my deep dark conspiracy -- >> take us there. >> are the people that cannot be lobbied. the people not running again. your corker, flake, mccain, they've had personal beefs with the president. >> who does murkowski owe? >> nobody. but my problem is, just, you...