the eclipse already started. reporter: yes, it did. it s about to start in the western part of the country. give me five, you guys. you were amazing. thank you so much for being with us. and craig, so many families like them, they re going to experience this together in this stadium behind me. 15,000 people have poured into carbondale, illinois, and the local businesses here are ex attic. it is estimated the private sector in carbondale will gain almost $20 million just by the influx of tourists and people all around the world who have come here to witness this astronomical event together. all right. we ll come back to you in a moment, as well. my friend and colleague, jeff rossen, is standing by, not far from where we sit here. he s in new york city, on the upper west side. new york city, by the way, expected to get an eclipse of about 70%. but here s the thing, jeff. that doesn t mean that folks should take viewing any less seriously, right? reporter: yeah, you can never look at the sun. whether it s 1% or 70% eclipsed. that is what you want to look for on your glasses. make sure it s there. along with the manufacturer name and cross-reference to make sure it s good. there are counterfeits out therther there. there are people out there trying to rip people off. if you have the glasses and you put them on and it is pitch-black and you say, well, what s going on here, that s exactly what it s supposed to be. pitch-black. because when you look up at the sun, it will block everything else out, except for the sun. so right now i can t see where the camera is, and that s the way it s supposed to be. another tip for you. this is my daughter, skylar, my 11-year-old, skylar. so she came to watch the eclipse with me today. she wears glasses. if you have glassions at home like skylar does, you re supposed to put the solar eclipse glasses over your glasses so you can see it well. how does that feel? good. reporter: what does the sun look like through those? it looks like an orange circle, and i can only see the sun. everything else is black. reporter: everything else is black. except for the sun. that s the way it s supposed to be, craig. so 70% tolltality here in new york. and we have clear-blue skies. we re ready to rock this. jeff, really quickly. if i ve waited until the last minute, if i don t have the glasses, if there is no one that i can call to borrow a pair of these things, is there anything else i can do? or should i just stay inside? reporter: you know, i ve seen a lot of these home made things online, ways to make a home made device, and that is well and good if you were to do it perfectly. my personal opinion, and speaking with all the experts, that is dangerous, because if you do one thing wrong, and no one is there to tell you unless you have a nasa astronaut or astronomer living with you, i think that s dangerous. you want to watch on msnbc or nbc.com to watch it yourself so you re safe. you need to have these glasses by now. and if you do have them, i want you to check for all of those things because you want to make sure you don t have a counterfeit. jeff rossen. we always learn something when you re on television, sir. reporter: watch craig melvin. what other advice do we need? thank you. and a big thanks to your daughter, as well. our friend, sam champion, legendary weather man, has decided to drag himself off the beach to come in and enjoy some astronomical history. when you look at the scene there in illinois, we are roughly nine minutes away from totality there. guys like you, how excited do you get? we re super psyched. when we show the graphics, and everyone is talking about, oh, it s difficult, you know, to get one of these. but the variables, you don t want to do 9the math. we ve got the moon phase, the orbit of the moon, is 27 days. the moon phase to go from new moon to full moon is 29 days. the orbit of the moon wobbles on the sun. so everything has to be perfect. this is so, so incredibly unique. the variables are great. so when this happens, run. don t walk. run to see it. and we are the only planet in the solar system that has a moon that s capable of the right size and right position to block out the sun fully. and take jupiter, who has like 6 0 minutes. none of them will do what this does on earth. especially considering how much larger the sun is than the moon. 400 is everything in that number. the sun is 400 times the size of the moon. the moon the sun is 400 times farther away than our moon. so when you line them up in just the right way, boom, you get that. and the thing about this is, if you were waiting 1 billion years from now, we wouldn t even get this. because the moon is actually drifting away from the earth in its orbit. slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. so about a billion and then the numbers are may vary, anywhere from 500 million to a million years from now. we re watching this live shot courtesy of nasa. it would seem as if during the course of our conversation over the last 90 seconds or so, it would seem as if we re almost at totality. yeah. is that what we re looking at here? that s exactly what you re looking at. so it s going to look like and don t worry, east coast and middle of the country. your time is coming. remember, this shadow starts on the west coast and then races across the country. so when you re seeing these things on tv and you re looking out the window and you don t see this, you will. if you re in the path of totality. this is exactly what you ll see. that shadow blocking the sun s light until it looks almost like a sliver of the moon. and then you ll get that full coverage. and exactly what that young man said in your live shot was so brilliant. because in that full coverage of totality, there are two very special things that go on. bailey s beads, because the shape of the edge of the moon is very rocky. there s mountains, cliffs, craters, all this wild stuff. so when the moon pulls in front of the sun, you ll see these coming around the rocky, crater stuff, and little beads of light around this ring. and then there is just going to be one and they call that the diamond ring phase. and it is so beautifully special to see. so, you know, watch it on tv, if you re not in the totality. because this is going to be a crazy, wonderful thing. left side of the screen is where this total eclipse is set to start, roughly six minutes from now. ride sight of your scene, uss yorktown, where this event is set to wrap-up here a couple hours from now. sam, a few moments ago, we saw that orange ring around. was that the corona we saw there? the only time you can ever see the corona of the sun is when you ve got a total eclipse going on. because the light of the sun makes it too bright to see that dancing glow on the outside of the sun. and this is one of the things that scientists are so excited about, because we can t see it at any other time than total eclipse, this is the one time we get to study it. and there are so many things we don t understand it. like we believe that corona, that ring, that golden orange ring where the rays are shooting off the edge of the moon s shadow, we believe that s a million degrees or so hotter than the actual sun itself. and we don t know why. so this is a great opportunity to study the gases, what we know that comes off the sun that interrupts our radio and tv frequencies periodically. we get to study that now. let s get back to jacob soboroff standing by in oregon. we are roughly five minutes away from totality. jacob, how has this scene changed there in oregon, sir? reporter: well, it s darker, for one. it s certainly less and less light as the time goes on. this is really cool. so this is a whole family and group of friends. this gentleman brought this amazing telescope. when you look through this, we basically see what you re looking at from nasa that we have got up close and personal. this is a tiny sliver of the sun. five minutes left, they re telling me. what you were telling me just now, when this ultimately happens, we re going to see a massive shadow come 2,000 miles an hour from that way, which is the west. that s the west, yeah. reporter: towards us here in the east. jefferson is going to go dark before it gets to total here. reporter: so, craig, if we are together and connect at the right time, we re actually going to see 2,000-mile-an-hour shadow, which is the speed at which this total eclipse of the sun is progressing across the united states. throw this place into darkness in a matter of moments. i m going to quickly check out the sun one more time with my special glasses here. this is probably the dorkiest thing anybody can do on national television. it s getting smaller and smaller. you guys are all here together as a group. one thing, craig, i learned, show me the eye patches. what s that about? so if you want to acclimate your eye to totality, if you keep this one dark, so when it s totally dark, then you don t have to waste time having your eye get used to being in total darkness. reporter: so four minutes from now, craig, it will go into total darkness here. and that patch, i guess, is critical to becoming acclimated. what i m told by these guys, you re going to be able to look up at the sky and see stars as if it was nighttime. and, again, 360 degrees all around us, it will look as though it s dusk, as though the sun is setting for only about two minutes and then slowly go back into a partial eclipse again. only a matter of minutes now. only a matter of seconds, i guess i could say. jacob, i want to come back to you in 90 seconds. don t go far. i want to bring in gadi schwartz, in casper, wyoming. gadi, safe to assume, it s also gotten darker there, as well? reporter: yeah, starting to get a little bit darker and definitely the sun is almost covered up. the only way to really experience this is this first-class kind of lying down. and then you ve got a hill over here. we re in casper, wyoming. this is my friend, maria. i m just going to join you on the hill, here. just going to lean back, and tell me what you re seeing, maria. i m seeing a huge sliver. and it almost looks like if it was white, it could be the moon. but it is the sun, so it s orange. and the black is coming in. reporter: it looks like it s the opposite, sun and moon. exactly. reporter: when was the last time you saw an eclipse? it was in the 60s, but it was a a partial. it was a pretty good one. and reporter: you still remember it? oh, yes. reporter: vivid? we were in the military, and we were in a military quarters. and i looked up, had no idea what was going on. suddenly, it got dark. i said, what s going on? and then once it was over, the roosters started crowing. reporter: the roosters. they thought it was morning. morning. reporter: wow. yeah. definitely something completely unforgettable. and you see out here, there s a lot of people all along this hill, and then you ve got people all along the ridge right now. this is what it looks like in casper, wyoming. this is a place that basically doubled in size, the population doubled in size over at the airport, planes landing to see this. so we re going to go ahead and keep an eye on it, craig. back to you. we ll come back to you in a bit. gadi in wyoming. let s go back to illinois again. we are roughly 60 seconds away now, by my count, sam champion. here we go, craig. my kw > my goodness. reporter: it s pretty incredible. you can hear the crowd starting to cheer. the sky is definitely darkening. everyone looking up at the sun being covered up by the moon. the air temperature is getting colder. let s take a look at the crowd right now. it s it s an extraordinary thing to behold. and physically, it is getting colder. by the second. they say a 60-second countdown. people are out here cheering. and if you look with the special glasses and through here we go. here it comes look! reporter: here comes the shadow. woo! reporter: reminder, it is 10:19 in the morning here in oregon. and we have it. reporter: but it feels as though we are getting into the late hours of the evening. the sky is going dark. my goodness. that is what totality looks like. reporter: we are now in a virtual total eclipse. of the sun. reporter: i ve got to be honored, craig. i have the chills. this is the moment where you can take your glasses off. take a look at the sun in the sky completely obscured by the moon. it is an absolutely beautiful thing to see. you have waited a lifetime to see this. how do you feel right now? planning for two years. and it s finally found a place. and the smoke was in this morning, i thought it was going to be completely covered up and there it is. i ve never seen it before. it s spectacular. i m going to watch now. reporter: okay, go ahead. craig, i think a lot of people feel that way. i ve certainly never seen anything like it. it looks like a giant starburst, which i suppose in scientific terms is exactly what it is behind the moon. it s amazing. reporter: from this vantage point. and, again, my vantage point certainly nothing compared to yours, but from this vantage point, fat out amazing, sam champion. this is one of the few times you ll feel like you re not on planet earth. because during the middle of the day, we don t get sunset. we don t get darkness. and on an eclipse, you do. so it s this awe-inspiring feeling, craig, when you re standing there and all of a sudden the sky goes dark, the birds get quiet. you start to see the stars and some planets you don t normally get a chance to see with the naked eye. because the sun and the bright skies will keep you from seeing them. you ll be able to see pluto, mercury is also a visible today. now what you re looking at from nasa one of the things when we flip shots and you see the nasa emblem right there, you re going to see nasa telescope, but also going to see the wing of a plane. nasa and a lot of scientists are flying along the path of totality. so they can get a nice, long look. because if they were on the ground, they would only get that two-minute, 2:40 look. in a plane, they ll be able to race along that shadow and they ll be able to show us a little bit more and they ll be able to see more. so right now every time we show you from now on for the rest of the time of this eclipse, the shots will look different. jacob, are you seeing stars and planets. reporter: just real quick, a couple things we re seeing right now. you were saying the bailey s beads. describe what they are. essentially, what i was told before coming out of total eclipse right now. the bailey s beads, i m going to put my glasses back on as the sun comes back from behind the moon. but the bailey s beads were the reflection, the sun coming off the surface of the moon. we re also seeing planets venus, many, many stars, as if it was the dark of night, craig. and now we are slowly but surely seeing the sun again emerge from behind the moon. i say slowly, but, again, 2,000 miles an hour is how fast this path of totality is, crossing the united states of america right now. jacob, it would seem as if the crowd that s gathered there, not disappointed at all in this celestial spectacle. reporter: no, let me ask this gentleman right here. sir, did this meet, exceed or disappoint you, your expectations? no, couldn t prepare for it. it s unlike anything i ve ever experienced. reporter: it s incredible, isn t it? yeah. reporter: there is no objective journalism in watching a total eclipse of the sun, craig. it s really one of the coolest things i ve ever seen. and it just it feels truly amazing. and something in a time when, you know, all the other stuff we talk about in and out, day in and day out, on our network and, you know, just amongst our friends, this is something that really is bringing everybody together in this country and it s a privilege to be a part of it. yeah, it is. it is, jacob soboroff. thank you, my friend. i want to come back and maybe spend some time with that woman in the purple. for her, it really did look like it was pretty close to a religious experience. left side of the screen, again, that is madres, oregon. four minutes ago. we saw totality there. and, again, this thing is going to be moving east. we are going to we re going to be moving east, following it, as it moves east. on the right side of your screen, by the way, that s night vision in madres, oregon. you see folks who are still looking up, those who are not looking up, don t have their glasses on. so we like to see that. we like to see folks appearing to take the necessary precautions. gordon petri, solar scientist, with the national solar observatory in boulder, colorado. he watched the eclipse from salem, oregon. he comes to us now by phone. and gordon, we keep hearing that an event like this is a bonanza for the scientific community. why is that? the reason is, it s the best to observe the lower parts of the solar atmosphere to show the most active and dangerous parts. so this gives us a unique look into the flares of the solar atmosphere that you can t quite engineer with telescopes yet. the eclipse, as you saw it there in salem, describe it for us. well, it was a beautifully symmetric structure. you saw regions which were dark and then gorgeous streamers coming out the sides. two on one side, and one on the other. so it looked a bit triangular in appearance. the tails whiisping off into th wind. you ll have to excuse me, i m a bit taken aback. it will do it, right? i wasn t expecting that. i had seen video, but it s experiencing it live, it s it s pretty impressive. and it s even cooler when you re standing outside. because, you know, the wind will die down a little bit. the temperature will drop about ten degrees, at least ten degrees. so you get all of your senses going for this experience when you re standing in that path of totality. you know, it s a visual you ll feel it on your skin when the temperature changes. you hear the crowd go crazy. because they re looking at it at the same time you are. and then this will repeat for the next, you know, couple of hours in communities all across america, it will look exactly like that. everyone in the path of totality is going to get the show we just saw. but remember, even if you re not in that path, america will get a partial eclipse. so if you re on either side of the dark line we show you on the map, there is still every reason to be excited because you ll see at least what looks like that, and a lot of places in america will see that crescent. and when the sun is a crescent, it s a totally different thing from the moon. it s just this gorgeous, orange glow. that rare coast to coast march is under way across this country right now. and there are a lot of folks who are very, very excited. do i still have jacob soboroff? is he still hanging out there in oregon? reporter: as i said, it s an emotional experience. jacob, are you with me? reporter: are you there, craig? i am. i just heard you talking about an emotional experience. reporter: yeah. i was talking to miguel almaguer. come here. my fellow correspondent here from nbc news, and i were just talking about what it is like to actually cover this thing. i said to miguel, it was an emotional experience. and he said i almost cried. reporter: it was undescribable. and for people in our profession who are supposed to describe what s happening to other people, it was really, really difficult to do. i mean, people told us it was going to be moving, it was spiritual, it will make you cry. i thought, i ve heard that before. experienced this before. but that, jacob, truly was surreal. reporter: i ve never seen anything like it. and, of course, this is like a once in a lifetime experience for people that live in the united states for at least for this thing to go all the way across the country. the it was almost like the air was sucked out of this entire place. reporter: the temperature dropped, the excitement level went up. people started to clap, people started to cheer. you looked into the sky and see just that sliver of sun and then when we dipped into that totality, it was a surreal experience. i mean, there s really no dollar amount you could put on an experience like that. i mean, it was moving. reporter: yeah. i had been saying for the last couple days, this is like the coachella for nerds. people are out here camping, there s 100,000 people out here. but i i feel like i ve been welcomed into the community of nerds out here. reporter: absolutely. it s been a great experience. since we first arrived here, people have been saying come on in, sharing food, sharing their experiences. and now we all got to share this together, which makes it so much better. reporter: yeah. there are a few things that are cool enough you want to interview your colleague about, but craig, this is one of them. i ll send it back to you. and here s the thing. miguel almaguer spends a great deal of time crisscrossing this country, covering wildfires and all sorts of other things that might make one emotional. so for him to say that this almost moved him to tears, that s saying a lot. i ve known miguel for a number of years. so he doesn t get moved too easily. reporter: there s no doubt about it. he said you cover just about everything, so for you to be moved reporter: it was moving. jacob, the folks who were gathered there in that field, what will they all do now? reporter: yeah, that s a good question. i think they ve got to get out of here by the end of the day, because this is somebody s private property. but for now, for another hour and a half, if i can check out yeah. we have about another hour and a half of partial eclipse to stand here and watch. so frankly, i m not going anywhere. i don t think any of these people are going anywhere, either, craig. we re going to go somewhere right now, though. we ll come back to you in a bit. my regards to miguel, as well. jolene kent covers business for nbc news, msnbc, all of the p peacock properties. what we re going to see in carbondale, columbia, nashville, a lot of these communities are going to see quite the infusion of money over the next day or so, i would imagine. no? reporter: yeah, definitely. you ve got hotel rooms going for five, ten, twenty times the price. what i want to point out, this is the west coast, known for having the most solar panels. so what happens when the moon blocks the sun to all of that solar energy that s created? well, it actually takes a huge hit. and according to the california folks who govern solar energy, they re saying they re going to see a 6 gigawatt hit on solar energy. so this affects 6 million families. and you end up having to pump up your wind energy. use that stored up hydropower. in order to make sure those homes don t experience blackouts. and all of that is going to happen all the way across the country, all the way to north carolina. duke energy saying the exact same thing. but this is a really interesting thing too, for companies, because we re seeing 7$700 million lost in productivity because we re watching the eclipse, putting on glasses, stepping outside, and that s at least $700 million in productivity loss. like march madness times a few. yeah. this is casper, wyoming. this is the next point of totality. we re told. and sam, this is not a scene that s going to get old this afternoon, man. no, because remember, it is different than seeing it on camera. i m getting people on twitter who said, hey, we just decided to watch with you guys, because it s so much fun. but if you re in that path of totality, being outside for it is kind of an incredible experience and it will not get old. getting to the solar power thing, when you think about 1% of the country that gets their power from solar power, this is an interesting experiment, a day of scientific experiments. and this is a very interesting experience, because california, while the country may be at 1%, california is about 30 to 50%. that s right. so we ll see how they ramp up and how they change and how successful it is when you lose the sun in the middle of your power up day. and we have never seen this issue before since 1979. this wasn t we didn t have this type of solar energy generation. sam, the northwest, i heard earlier this week, a lot of folks traveled out to that part of the country because historically, the skies are clearer in places like wyoming and places like oregon, in places like idaho. is that the case? it certainly is for this time of year and it has been true this year. we have had a lot of dry air into the northwest for this summer. it s been brutally hot and very, very clear and dry. so the only little fly in the ointment with this, and i talked to a lot of people today on twitter. on the coast of oregon and california, there was some coastal fog that didn t want to burn off. once you got away from the coast, you got a pretty good shot. and the west coast has some of the best weather. the west and the inner mountain west has some of the best weather and clear skies to be able to see what we all want to see. that beautiful, perfect moon with nothing in its way. there will be some clouds, once you get into the middle of the country. and also on the east coast there will be some low clouds. but don t be discouraged. still being under clouds in an eclipse is an incredible thing. you re going to see that light change. and you maybe even with your solar glasses, may be able to look up through the thin clouds and watch that shape even through the thin clouds. so even though it s a little cloudy where you are, if you re in the path of totality, don t break down yet. stay where you are. when history happens here at nbc news, we like to turn to the man in the building who has covered more history, arguably, than anybody else here in 30 rock. tom brokaw joining me now on the phone from bozeman, montana, where, tom, as i understand it, the eclipse is passing over as we speak? reporter: well, i must say that i m on my own piece of rock. i m on a mountaintop in the range about 7,000 feet. and in the last 20 minutes or so, we have been watching the moon move across the sun. it suddenly got much cooler. but the light has not changed that dramatically. it s now late afternoon light here. i m looking down across a lot of cattle. they re not doing anything dramatically different. we had thought that maybe it would affect some animal behavior. there was a bear spotted earlier. but by and large, i m looking out on this magnificent scene in what was once a hunting ground. so i can only imagine what it was like here 200 years ago. so the crow when they re out on a hunt and suddenly lost their sense. that s what we re experiencing here, and it s quite mystical. almost like being at the birth of time. and it s kind of reassuring, as well, that nature is totally in charge and we re all united by the idea of this eclipse of the sun. maybe we can hope it all pulls together politically. wouldn t that be nice. tom, 79, roughly 38 years ago, you were our man that night, guiding us through coverage. how does this event compare to the last total eclipse nearly four decades ago? reporter: well, i think that there s just much more awareness of it. and that has a lot to do with social media. it s 24/7 now, where you are, or on cable on social media. people are much more in touch with each other. so any unexpected or dramatic event like this one is, which is out of the usual, there is a much larger crowd. and everybody focuses on one thing. we re moving from one dramatic moment in history to anotherful because you can t escape it. and it s something kind of reassuring about that. i was thinking about youngsters now, and science glasses, for example. they ll learn a lot about how the universe works, and how nature really is in charge. the rest of us can do what we think is best for the country. or best for the world. but nature at the end of the day is really in charge. amen to that. tom brokaw, bozeman, montana. mr. brokaw, we always enjoy having your insight and perspective, sir. thank you. i ll let you get back to the show in the sky. reporter: well, thank you very much. it s wonderful to be able to spend two hours sitting up here on a mountain top with nothing else to worry about except when i m going to get out of here. so good luck. we ll be watching through the day. tom brokaw, special correspondent, long-time anchor of nbc nightly news, and still very much the guiding force here at the peacock, as well. tom costello, standing by there in god s country. some call it south carolina. this will be the last spot that the eclipse will pass through here. in an hour and some change. he is in south carolina. charleston harbor. what s happening there, mr. costello, as this thing nears? reporter: first of all, this is your hometown, right? so i know why you call it god s country. it is beautiful. behind me, you ve got the harbor. look at all of the boats out here, getting ready to watch the eclipse. and i m going ask george to pan up to the sky. we ve got a problem here. we ve got a lot of cloud cover. however, we are seeing, if you can just peek through the clouds, you do see now maybe about a quarter or so, maybe a third of the sun is starting to be eaten away ever so slightly by the moon. so it certainly is spectacular, and we re watching it very closely. they say totality here will happen at about 2:46 p.m. eastern time. this is where we are. we re on the uss yorktown, right here in charleston, harbor. al, come here. i need an update live on msnbc yes, sir. reporter: is the cloud cover going to hear? we re hoping. in fact, in the last five minutes, it has become much a little clearer. reporter: it is better, isn t it? it was much more obscured about ten minutes ago. reporter: it looks pretty good. we re getting there, slowly, slowly getting there. listen, as you know, craig, this is the landmark here in charleston harbor with uss yorktown. we re actually on mt. pleasant. that s right. three rivers coming together. and then the charleston harbor and raf necessarily bridge. reporter: a terrific day, everybody excited. it s a little hot. i brought you a cooling towel. reporter: do you have a margarita, by chance? okay. that s after totality. look who else is here? we ve got stephanie ruhle. reporter: stephanie ruhle is here. quickly, quickly, quickly! so i m the only one wearing the microphone. so what do you think? it s starting to peek through right now. i m tempted to look up. it s starting to peek through. i brought my home made it s a little cloudy. we re sending it back to craig. very exciting, craig. we re going to come back to you guys in a moment. but for our viewers at home, and maybe even our listeners, as well, if you re driving along, let me describe this for you. or attempt to describe it, although i would tell you that adjectives are actually kind of hard to come by. this is jackson hole, wyoming. this is the scene there. dylan dreyer, we expect to be approaching, again, totality. it s awesome, isn t it? it really is. how much are you hating being stuck in the studio right now? i love being able to explain the science, but i would love to be outside even more. for folks at home right now, describe what we re looking at. describe what we re seeing? well, you re starting to see that, you know, the orbit of the moon cross between the sun and the earth. and the coolest thing about it is, we are in just the prime location. if you think about it, the earth is 400 times larger than the moon. but it s also 400 times farther away from earth than the moon is. so it s that equation that creates this perfect lineup in the sky for the moon to completely block out the sun. to the point where you can actually take your glasses off for a second, because there are no harmful raise coming from the sun because it is totally blocked from the moon. and the best part about watching this total eclipse is that most areas are seeing clear skies. so you can actually look up and witness this event. it s not like it s happening behind, and is obscured by the clouds. except for areas like south carolina, but even there i think we re going to really get those moments where you could luck out and see the clouds part for a second. it s just those popup thunderstorms. so i think most of the country is actually going to see this eclipse. as we approach totality there in jackson hole. and, you know, you tell me if this is a question that s a little too nerdy and too in the weeds. this is casper, by the way. why is it moving from west to east? it s a little complicated to explain. the best way i can do it is to kind of give you an example. you know you re driving in a car, right? yeah. you re going at a certain speed? yeah. a bike rides by you, right? also going at a lesser speed. so you think of the orbit of the moon versus the orbit around the sun. that the earth is doing. so we re all going the same direction. but if you were to look out your window and look at that bike, wouldn t it look like it s going backwards? so that s why this whole thing, because of the different speeds of the orbits, it s like an optical illusion and looks like it s going backwards. good to have all of you meteorologists around orthopedic surgeon days like this. dylan, don t go anywhere. i want to bring sam champion back into the conversation, as well. again, casper, wyoming. they re on mountain time. so roughly 11:41 there in casper, as we approach, once again, totality, sam. so this is now we start to get to what will be longer and longer totality, until we get to carbondale, illinois. so what we saw first in oregon where you saw the beautiful ring and the bubbling lights, or the rays shooting out from the ring and then it condenses to the bailey s beads, because of the crater and mountain shape of the edge of the moon. then as it continues to move, you ll get just one spot that hangs upon. and that s that diamond ring. the great thing about sitting here and watching it again, because some of you were saying, i saw it, why do i need to see it again? really, seriously? we re going to do this across the country. because by the time you get from now to carbondale, you ll get to see those dancing lights around the edge of that shadow, longer. and that s what s exciting about this as we watch across the country. again, something you ll see tomorrow in video, but you ll see it live today. i think we just achieved totality. did i just get totality there? no? we re not sure how we lost the camera. look like it bumped there. a lot of people are shooting through we re back. right now, by the way, folks. casper, wyoming, 11:43 a.m. and this is totality. that s it. that s why we can look right at it. because all you re seeing is basically the corona, the atmosphere of the sun. coming past the moon. but everything else is safe to look at. that s the one moment you can take advantage of dropping those glasses and taking a look at this. when you start to see the rays brighten up, put them right back on because even a sliver can burn the back of your eye. i wonder, what are scientists thinking right now when they look at this? what are they learning? a lot of it is we ve got to understand what that corona is. you know, we know that it s gases. we know that it s super heated. but we really need to understand more of the life of the sun. and we need to understand why the temperature has changed. and we learn a lot. there will be science that comes out of this that explains something else. that won t even be astronomy. remember the theory of relatively was confirmed because of watching the light bend. there will be science experiments done here that we don t understand the power and importance. one of the cool things nasa is going to do, they re going to look to social media and look at all of the photos that people submit so that they can examine the corona of the sun and use that to help with their research and what exactly that all does with electrical storms and what happens in space because of it. what are we watching now as totality passes, we go back to the partial eclipse? on the other side. how long, typically, will that last, the partial eclipse? it s going to be depending on where you are on the path, it s equal. so as you re standing there looking up at it, as the shadow starts to cover the sun, and then you get your totality, and then the shadow leaves the sun, those things will be fairly equal on either side. and the thing that will change will be how long you get to witness that total eclipse. there s casper, wyoming. one thing i would be interested i know it s hard to find a place to watch this by yourself. if there was someone in an isolated location, i would like to know just how much the birds stop chirping, how the crickets come out. if all of that depends on dark and day of night. tom brokaw. he s got a lot of acreage. tom made a good point, too. one of the big differences between now and 1979, the last time we saw something like this in this country, obviously social media didn t exist back in the late 70s, but our vantage point, we saw a shot a few moments ago from a drone. and i would imagine a lot of folks are employing those drones today to capture some of the images that we re seeing now, some of the images we re probably going to be seeing. the left side of your screen, that s what it looks like on the ground in casper, wyoming. and on the right side of your screen, that is what it looks like in the sky. control room, do i have that right? casper wyoming, as well? correct. and we appear to be, again, approaching totality in cat per, wyoming. casper, wyoming. one would assume we also would hear the same thing we heard in oregon, as well. when the sun is completely enveloped by the moon, the people will begin to cheer. it s wild how we can actually watch. it s so hard. yes. i mean, in just 90 minutes, a shadow is being cast across the entire country. it s interesting to hear the comments from people in oregon, what to expect. there were some people who thought it would look like midnight. it s going to look like a dusk or dawn situation. and as dylan said, you ve got a 350 sunset. so if u stabbed and look around. there are some very interesting things to see, and people are like, i was disappointed i didn t get to pitch-black. so i want everyone in the middle of the country to understand it s going to be a dusky glow. we have special tefilters on th cameras and lenses here. so even the cameras can t rook at the sun. right. reporter: gadi schwartz is with us from cat pesper, wyomin. we want to hear from that smart legal nephew ow again in a few moments. he has since been signed to a contract here at msnbc. we look forward to getting his insight and expertise there in casper, wyoming, where, again, this is the next spot, we re told, for totality. and, again, for those of you who are at home right now who might be listening and watching and you shear us continue to use this phrase, dylan dreyer, path of totality, what does that mean? it s a cool buzz word, because, i mean, it sums up exactly what s happening. there is a path that goes from oregon to south carolina. and within that path, the sun is totally blocked by the moon. completely again, to the point where you can look at the sun, because it is safely blocked by the moon for that minute and a half, two-and-a-half minutes, depending on where you are. so it is the path where totality happens. roughly 12.2 million people, according to the smart folks who scratch such things. even beside the 12.2, living in the path of totality, roughly two-thirds of thirds of the 310 million people who live in the united states of america, two thirds of them live within a days drive of totality. we have seen so many stories about traffic being backed up. even if you don t live in or near the path of totality, get out and look. the entire country will see 50% or more totality. even hawaii will see 30% or 40%. in carbondale, illinois, it s the longest duration, why is that? it would be the same ever where. but what is so special is all of the variables that have to come together to make it happen. and the shadow is moving across a globe. so it will move fast, and then slow at the high point. we can see the scene there in the sky, what is the scene scli on the ground? it happened three or four minutes ago, it was insane, they started counting down. and you re expecting an eclipse, but you re not expecting what happens, the sky turns are crazy bluish red color and everyone goes wild, the only way to explain is it through the eyes of a kid. this is my nephew, i am going to ask you some questions, okay. what did you think about the eclipse? breathtaking, speechless? that s how we all felt here. that is how we all felt, it is interesting to see what happens to everyone. their looking around, the glasses come off, and once they come off you look around and see you re surrounded by people in the sky. so a very spiritual experience, if you will. i don t even know how to describe it. it is almost like this. you know what an earthquake is, right? and then you finally understand it when you feel it. that is the only way to explain an eclipse. you know what the word is. something happens and it all just clicks. it is astounding out there. totality. you re be on the snap chat these days. just saw it disappear for a little bit. we were running around like chickens with our heads cut off. it is called stay tuned. you can see anything that was going on here in casper, wyoming. we had to duck out, but there was just too much to snap. i would imagine this is all of the rage on social media. i ll let you get back to the family, thank ace eacer as well. that was the scene in wyoming. this is englewood cliffs, new jersey. we re about an hour from totality, but right now already you can see excuse me, the partial eclipses in new jersey. we re seeing the sun come over. tom brokaw was such a great conversation, he is sitting out there putting it in historic perspective. witnessi witnessing something like this today, there was all of these tales and stories in history about why this was happening. they would say it was a lizard taking a bite from the sun, into northern parts of europe, it was a bear fighting with the sun or taking a bite from the sun. and there were early understandings of the eclipse, the greek astronomers knew very well and had charted exactly when it would happen and it took a lot of understanding and constant watching. we have drawings on rocks in northern ireland dated at 5,000 years and they believe it is the sun, and the spirals, and the covering. they believe it has gone on for a very long time, and now that we know exactly what is happening, it is great to think that nothing is taking bite from the sun, that life won t be different. you know it will come right back at you, you don t have to fear now the way they did hundreds and thousands of years ago. carbondale, illinois. that s what we re looking at right now. a live look right there courtesy of our friends at nasa. that is the scene above the stadium. we re handionging out with 15 thousands of the closest friends. they are so amped up and it is so warm out. it is every 90 degrees. this is the mascot, for people to vent a little, and this is like a college, you see your cheerleaders have come out just in time to say high to you and then there is a cast of star wars. there is a couple people from the movie armageddon, and it s getting more and more exciting. i m here with a college junior and a senior. how exciting is this for you. a lot of visitors. dominic, you have swag that i have seen a lot of people carrying, can you show us it s the map of the solar system, planets and galaxys, we have a nasa sticker. we have total eclipse manual/guide. i see binoculars, yes, nasa binoculars. i zoom in like twice zoom, it s cool technology, and then these white shirts from you know from our cool. see if i can get it out. they are shooting shirts out of that thing in a few seconds. can we show it for craig melvin. there is very fancy. let s show it. i m sure our influence companies love this. . here we go. it s warming up, craig. meanwhile. there we go. michael jackson in the background and all of this going on. it will be the longest period of total darkness. and carbondale is the only city in the country that in 2024, when this happens again on a smaller scale, they will experience totality then as well. exactly. that is why they are calling themselves solar eclipse crossroads of america, and they re telling me this is their dress rehearsal for 2024. oh, okay. thank you so much. carr b carbondale, illinois. the ellipse is set to happen toon. they have the distinction of being the city inside the path of totality. inside the path of totality where it is going to be the longest, they will enjoy a little bit longer than they did in madras. this is where we started our coverage. one of the first cities in america to experience totality. and we re seeing a good chunk of the sun covered by the moon. and look how beautiful. we all talk about totality, that s the most exciting moment. i think hasht partial is pretty as well. if you re in new york city, this is what you re seeing. chicago if we can keep the clouds away from the lakeside away for you long enough, and even places in florida. we have some clouds in central florida that i was watching earlier today, but if you can breakthrough the clouds this partial is what you will get. what is that quite bit in the sun this, what do we know about that. there are many spots, hot spots and flairs, you heard of solar flairs, there is always
they have a first amendment right to do that, but nfl owners also have a right to fire those players. reporter: this is all happening just one day after president trump rescinded his invitation for golden state warriors guard steph curry to visit the white house. now the entire team isn t going, but the hockey team that just won the stanley cup, they re taking a different approach. i m talking about the pittsburgh penguins, they put out a statement this morning that reads, quote: the pittsburgh penguins respect the institution of the office of the president and the longstanding tradition of championship teams visiting the white house. any agreement or disagreement with the president s politics, policies or agenda can be expressed in other ways. and, in fact, president trump tweeted about that very statement and praised the penguins for sticking by the tradition and coming to the white house regardless of where the players stand on politics. but, you know, all of this i hate to use the word distraction because, clearly, this means so much to so many people across in london today, others stood with their arms locked together. marianne rafferty is live at the stubhub center and have you talked to fan there is? what are they saying? reporter: actually, we did. we talked to fans who agreed and some who completely disagree and think it s unpatriotic, but they all pretty much said the same thing which was, you know, it s everyone s everyone has the right the protest if that s what they want to do, and it s not going to stop them from coming to any of the games or watching on tv. we have seen displays like this of solidarity from nfl players around the country. we re talking about 100 players who took a knee today in chicago, the steelers/bears game, nearly the entire team stayed in the locker room during the national anthem in order to avoid controversy except for one player, alejandro villanueva, a west point graduate and army ranger, who stood proudly outside a tunnel with his hand over his heart. this controversy all started on friday when president trump was at a political rally in alabama and suggested that players who protest by taking a knee should be fired. get that son of a [bleep] off the field right now. out, he s fired. [cheers and applause] reporter: from nfl league executives have been supportive of the players. houston texans president writing: the comments made by the president were divisive and counterproductive to what our country needs right now. also houston player j.j. watt of course known for his effort during the hurricane harvey recovery, fans say that none of this is going to stop them from coming to the games. right now as we speak we ve got fans filing in behind us. the chargers/chiefs game here in california set to begin in just about 30 minutes or so. arthel: thank you very much for that update from the west coast. eric: and from the controversy island both by air and by sea. fema has already delivered 1.6 million gallons of water, 23,000 cots and dozens of generators and food, and more is on the way. more than anything though possibly is the need to connect with loved ones either to see how they are or to let them know that they re okay. with communications down across the island, that has been an incredibly heart-wrenching challenge both for folks on the island as well as back in the states who have family here. that s why so many people are now trying to make their way to puerto rico to be able to check on their loved ones. but with power out, air traffic control here at the airport is very limited in the number of flights that can come in, so folks are having a very difficult time getting to the island to check on their loved ones as well as reaching them by phone with the internet and mobile phones still down, it ll be days before some folks are able to touch base with their loved ones. people stopping anywhere they can along the highways here if they see a cell phone signal that they have it, they pull over just to call and say, i m okay. eric? eric: that is just astounding. and it is so overwhelming. garrett, thank you. arthel? arthel: let s go to mexico now where rescue crews are searching through the rubble in search of any survivors after two massive earthquakes rocked the region this past week. thousands of people are now left homeless. jonathan hunt is in mexico city with the latest and, jonathan, i mean, how are those crews holding up, and are you seeing or have you spoken to any of the residents? reporter: it s a tough, tough job for these rescue workers, arthel. this in the heart of downtown mexico city is the last remaining official search and rescue operation underway. the collapsed office building behind me is the focus of an intense search. the media kept at some distance for obvious reasons, but earlier today we were able to get a little closer, and take a look at this video. you can see just what a painstaking operation it is. those highly skilled, very determined crews using basically just their hands to claw away layer after layer of rubble. they don t want to bring in heavy machinery, because that could disturb huge blocks of concrete and bring them crashing down on anybody who may, may still be surviving in there. it is a long shot but, obviously, they are not giving up yet. one of the crews that has been helping out in this effort is from the united states. the los angeles county fire department urban search and rescue team, i caught up with their team leader, chief dennis cross, and he told me there is still hope. listen here. the will of somebody to live outweighs anything else. a human being can survive for a number of days especially if they have a water source. if they re in an area that s a void space and they ve got some source of water, bottled water, rain water as we saw in haiti, we pulled victims out of the rubble between 7-9 days that had a water source. we never give up because we know there are miracles. reporter: and this is a true international effort, arthel. obviously, the mexican authorities taking the lead here, and they have very, very highly skilled teams but as well as the u.s. teams, there are teams here from israel, from japan, from chile. so this is a real international effort, a coming together to try to help the mexican people as best they can. but, obviously, with every passing minute hopes fade of finding anybody else alive. arthel? arthel: still, heroes and angels hard at work. jonathan hunt, mexico city, thank you so much, jonathan. eric: republican leaders have hit some roadblocks in washington in their push to try and repeal and replace obamacare and now, well, the list of no votes is growing. coming up, we ll talk about the latest republican senators to say they may vote against the graham-cassidy bill. and the stunning war of words continues between president trump and kim jong un. this as the u.s. military takes to the skies in a show of military force. we ll dissect what could be next straight ahead. around here, i m lucky to get through a shift without a disaster. heads up! you know what, don t worry about it. my bargain detergent couldn t keep up. it was mostly water. so, i switched to tide pods. they re super concentrated, so i get a better clean. i mean, i give away water for free. i m not about to pay for it in my detergent. number one trusted. number one awarded. it s got to be tide adult 7+ promotes alertness and mental sharpness in dogs 7 and older. 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[speaking in native tongue] translator: what else could be a bigger threat than the violent remarks such as pouring fire and fury, total destruction coming from the top authority of the world s biggest nuclear power? the very reason the dprk has to possess nuclear weapons is because of the u.s., and it had to strengthen and develop its nuclear force up to the current level to cope with the u.s.. finish. eric: there he s saying it s, you know, our fault. yeah. the north koreans have always said that, you know? they ve had a nuclear weapons program since at least 1965 when kim ill sung, the founder of the regime, asked for technology from the chinese. they probably even had a program before that. this has nothing to to do with president trump s words of fire and fury or the rest of it. and we ve got to remember when president trump said he would totally destroy north korea, this was his tuesday u.n. speech, he preceded it by some very important words, and that was if the united states is forced to defend itself or its allies. so, you know, president trump has been careful even though he uses bombastic language, he couches it in self-defense. eric: and that is the north koreans aren t doing that. eric: that s always been the u.s. policy anyway, hasn t it been? it has been. and matter of matter of fact, ik at president trump s words, and fiery as they were, they really were just a restatement of u.s. deterrence policy which has always talked about massive retaliation if the united states is attacked. so in substance, they weren t anything new. now, of course, president trump has used language which is more bellicose, but when you look at the substance, really nothing has changed. eric: yeah, something else that i caught in the speech which i thought was really a nugget, he totally rejects security council resolutions, rejects the international law and the international legitimacy of the security council and the nine resolutions. let s listen to what the foreign minister said about that. [speaking in native tongue] translator: the democratic people s republic of korea is a responsible nuclear weapons state. we will take preventive measures by merciless preemptive action in case the u.s. and its vessel forces show any sign of conducting a kind of decapitating operation on our headquarters or military attack against our country. eric: finally he said merciless, preemptive action if there s any type of decapitation strike or attack. i mean, what exactly is he talking about? well, it s actually even worse than that, eric, because he talked about a preventative strike. you know, preemption is recognized that a country can preempt another country if an attack is imminent. he talk about preventative of which is not an attack because something is imminent, it s to prevent your opponent from getting a capability or from doing something. and so this is even more provocative than we first thought when we started to listen to his speech. eric: raising the stakes to a a level that we haven t ever pact chi seen practically seen, certainly not since the korean war back in the 50s, gordon chang, thank you for your analysis this afternoon. thanks, eric. arthel: as president trump is getting ready to board air force one in new jersey to head back to the white house, mr. trump is doubling downed today on his demand down today on his demand that nfl team other thans fire or suspend any players who kneel during the national anthem and calling on fan it is to boycott games fans to boycott games if they don t. how are fans reacting? 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why, actually? why, because i understand people have the right to protest, right? but you protest against a specific action. if you are going to protest for black lives matters, right, march in a black lives matter, right? if you re going to protest specifically, but don t do it at a sporting event. i just think it s the wrong venue. i would never boycott the nfl because i love football. but i think the president should have interjected in it, he should have said something. he s the president. do i agree with everything that he says? no, i don t agree with everything that he says, but at least he shows that he s paying attention. i think it actually makes me want to go more just to show support for our players and try to keep the two issues separate. and once again, there s a lot on the president s plate right now and what s going on in the nfl should be, like, on the bottom of his list or not on his list at all. 100%. i mean, listen, i m a veteran, man. those guys are getting paid millions of dollars, and i used to get clash 750 $750 twice a month, and if you can t stand for the national anthem, get the hell off the field. this wasn t about trump, this was about the cause. now it turned from the cause to everybody uniting for the injustice or against the president. reporter: obviously no doubt the talk of nfl sunday today, but ultimately they say the biggest thing that bothers most folks is they just don t want to talk about politics, religion, any of that, especially on a day where they just want to concentrate on football. eric? eric: i guess the jets won today too, so for jets fans unfortunately. i m a dolphin fan, but, yeah. [laughter] eric: sorry. next time maybe. reporter: take care. arthel: and the saints won too. anyway, moving on. for more now we re going to bring in judy miller, adjunct fellow, pulitzer prize-winning reporter and fox news contributor. judy, hello. we have lots to talk about, and we start here. do you think it s time to take this offline and off of twitter, you know, take it to the oval office for a discussion about what started this, which is, you know, which is what the players see as social injustice? look, i think that s a subject, arthel, that clearly is on the minds of those players. that s what led to this protest, the taking of the knee, that s what prompted donald trump to lash out. it s just very unfortunate, i think, that that his response to that protest has divided the nation yet again. three-quarters of the nfl players are black, and three-quarters of the audiences are white. i understand the way many people feel about this issue because it is disrespectful to the flag to kneel, not to stand during the national anthem. but let s remember this is not about the flag, this is about what the flag stands for, and free speech and the right of free expression is one of the most important values that that flag stands for. and i m just very sorry that donald trump had to keep the spotlight on him. i think in part to distract americans from his foreign policy and domestic policy failures whether it s the impending failure to pass the repeal of obamacare or his embarrassing war of words with the north korean dictator which is also dangerous. this thing has gotten way out of hand so, yes, we need everybody to calm down, but we need to stand up for the right of free speech which is what most of the players and their coaches and even owners who supported donald trump have done now. arthel: well, you re right, the president is very smart when it comes to driving the news media coverage and taking it to where he wants it to go. meanwhile, i want to ask you how do you think white house chief of staff general kelly will discuss this war of words between the president and the players happening, you know, so publicly? look, i think that john kelly, general kelly is responsible for bringing order out of the chaos that was the white house and the policy agenda, but he cannot control donald trump, and he s not going to stop him from tweeting and dividing the nation through his tweets. let s just remember this: lebron james, maybe the most popular and talented athlete in the country, supported the players, not donald trump, and he has twice the number of twitter followers as donald trump. so in a popularity contest, i m not even sure donald trump would win this one. arthel: well, when you talk about pop a lairty is one thing, but when you talk about presidential history, how will it treat president trump on this development? oh, i don t think we can possibly say yet. we are just at the beginning of this administration. even, arthel, i think we all have to say it feels as if he s been president for a long arthel: you know, i m sorry, judy, i meant just on this particular issue when we look back on on this, how do you think the president will be presented? well, i think it depends on what happens. i mean, if people start boycotting the nfl and football, maybe the president will be able to take a victory lap, so to speak, using another sports metaphor. but if he doesn t and if fans just say we want to go watch the game and we don t want to hear about politics, then he will have miscalculated, and he will have misjudged where the american people are on an issue like this. a. arthel: so, i mean, this is quite i think it s safe to say it s quite shocking to many people watching this, just the whole engagement and how it s happening and how it s gotten to, again, pardon the pun, to kind of a locker room level. right. right. it s really disturbing. and i think that, you know, one thing i m reminded of is the owner of the new england patriots, robert kraft, who supported president trump arthel: absolutely. and thanked him for being there when his wife died. he said donald trump called him every single week to find out what he was doing at what he called the lowest point in his life. where is that man? where is that donald trump who was able to reach out and be empathetic and bring people together? because since he s become president, he s just been dividing us. arthel: well, you know, judy, lots to talk about. we re short on time here but, of course, the flag and honoring the flag is very important. social injustice is very important, so we have a lot of absolutely. arthel: really crucial issues that need to be discussed and, you know, acknowledged. and hopefully, begin to find some resolution. judy miller, we have to leave it there and thank you for your analysis. we ll talk to you again soon. thank you very much, arthel. arthel: thank, judy. eric: a few moments ago we saw the president talking to the media. we don t have the tape yet, but we do have some of the comments. the president said that this, his call for the football players to be fired, in his words, quote: had nothing to do with race, but instead respect for the flag and for the country. and as for his friend bob kraft who has been at the white house with him celebrating the patriots super bowl win and who has been a big donor to president trump, he said he likes bob very much, does like him, but that he had to go where he had to go in this controversy. so the president having some comments on the football controversy. we ll bring you the video as soon as we get it. he also talked about tax reform, very optimistic about that as the president heads back to washington. we continue with this controversy and with all the rest of the news, it is a busy weekend as fox news on this weekend continues in just a second. don t go away. in the navy. i do outrank my husband, not just being in the military, but at home. she thinks she s the boss. she only had me by one grade. we bought our first home together in 2010. his family had used another insurance product but i was like well i ve had usaa for a while, why don t we call and check the rates? 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sure. thanks for having me, eric. we have some serious concerns about the current state of the legislation. we re very concerned about eroding protections for pre-existing conditions, the impact it would have on coverage and the potential for millions of people to lose coverage, the impact on states and medicaid and really the ability to implement this program in the timeline that s envisioned under the legislation. it would create chaos. eric: but the gop sponsors say it s a great improvement over obamacare, that it ll stop the premiums from going up, and it s needed to try and protect most americans. we actually have a different set of fixes that we think are important to address obamacare. we think it ll be important to fund the so-called cost-sharing reduction payments that allow low income individuals to afford their care. we think there could be some more state flexibility with guardrails in place to allow skates to get waivers in place place states to get waivers in place more quickly. we also think you could push down premiums by, say, 15 or 20% if you put in place a so-called reinsurance program, and that would a make the market more stable and bring plans back to the market which would help choice and competition for consumers. eric: what s that, when you talk about a reinsurance program? what do you mean? sure. if there was additional funding to take off the pressure from individuals with very high health care expenses, what we ve seen in the market thus far is that, unfortunately, we haven t gotten the young and healthier people to enroll, but if we were able to push down premiums, we could take that pressure off and maybe find a way to attract a younger, healthier mix into the marketing in addition to providing pre-existing condition protections and keeping those in place. eric: you represent 1,300 insurance companies that sell insurance to us so, you know, what are you hearing on the ground? what are the folks telling you? because we see it in our insurance premiums. sure. there s a lot of concern particularly in the individual market. and we have to remember that that s a relatively small portion of the market, only about 6%, but it s getting almost 100% of the attention because of the challenges that we ve seen there. but there s a concern about really certainty in the marketplace. it s not clear about the cost-sharing reduction payments that i m mentioning. they ve been month to month. getting some certainty in place and thinking about a bipartisan fix, for example, some of the ideas that senators alexander and murray have put in place would probably be a better start in the short term. eric: what do you like about that plan? sure. it would provide some certainty by, again, funding payments and giving states a little bit more flexibility. it would be a good first step. there are other ideas that we think could be put in place to make the market more attractive for younger individuals to come, but we need to start and get that stability now. eric: do you think that, you know, lamar alexander, republican of tennessee, and patty murray, democrat of washington state, i mean, that is being touted as the bipartisan fix. they pulled it for graham-cassidy, but that may be back on the table certainly after next week, especially if graham-cassidy goes down the tubes. do you think some republicans could join, more republicans could join alexander and murray, and that s exactly what we may see in the coming weeks? it s hard to know how the politics of the situation plays out. what we ve really focused on is getting a policy solution and bringing a fix so that the american people who rely on coverage without the help of an employer through the exchanges really have more choices, there s more competition in the market and we can make a good first step towards getting stability over the long term for this group. eric: that s certainly what all americans need, try to get a fix on this. matt eyles, thank you so much. thank you. arthel: roll tide, a republican battle playing out in alabama pitting senator luther strange against judge roy moore. a live report on the tightly-contested runoff. that s coming up. yes. so let me ask you this. how does diabetes affect your heart? 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no rest for people northeast of the center of the storm and these nighttime hours, tornado warnings are requiring people to stay up and stay alert. harvey has been downgraded to the tropical storm but it continues to punish the infrastructures of central and coastal texas with wind and water. one confirmed death and injury. most of them in one town that seem to take harvey dead on. local media is reporting at least ten people in this one town were treated for injuries from a collapsed rooftops. it is rockport, texas. take a look from the air. this is what is left of rockport. there was no escaping harvey. rockport is a fishing town about 30 miles northeast of corpus christi and other areas like port lavaca and others pierced by the power of harvey. leadership in the state of texas compared for assets deployed all over the region and we just heard tonight. let s bring in the texas lieutenant governor dan patrick by phone. always good to be with you. i wish it was under different circumstances. you were right on target. i m in houston, northwest houston, where we had been diluted with rain for hour after hour. this is only the third time in history where we have had a flash flood emergency. that is what we are under right now. p every 15 minutes our bayous are filling up and when they overflow they create neighborhood flooding and they are in for potentially some of the worst flooding in the history of the city and that is saying something in a city that has flooded many times five lieutenant governor is so different from where you are in some of these other lower line areas which are smaller towns, rockport has about a population of 10000 people and we heard of those mandatory and some voluntary evacuations. you can t evacuate the entire city of houston. is this the very major disaster that you were warned about is that what the governor called it before it hit. yes, i ve been on fox a number of times in last place and i ve had the same refrain that is this potentially could be the worst storm we have ever seen because, harris, i have not seen a hurricane attached to the tropical storm combined to sit over our area for four or five days. this is think about this, the hurricane is over. the tropical storm began when that ended. this is now the third day that could be three or five days of consistent rain over an area that was i looked at the map today in san antonio to houston is 200 miles and were about 100, 2 miles to rockport. this would be the same thing, harris. if a storm hit new york and boston flooded. the hurricane hit rockport and it still hanging in that area but the band from the hurricane are hitting us at 150, 2 miles out in houston. this is a combination that concern me and one of the things that concern me, harris, was a relatively good day in the houston area, not a lot of rain during the day starting at around 3:00 o clock we started with tornado warnings and probably been on a tornado watch most of the last six hours and we ve had half a dozen funnel clouds cited. fortunately, none have touchdown to do massive damage but around 3:00 o clock it turned. i hope that people in the greater houston area, millions of people, did not get to relax because this is what governor abbott and i have feared this happened. harris: that is a mouthful there. around 3:00 o clock and that has now been to several hours. that turn that you speak of is punishing your state. you know what i have in front of me, the mayor of houston has been taking and is now saying that people are asking for help in many areas that are stranded in their cars. what is frightening about this is when you look across our recent history of human loss and we have been so blessed so far but we have one confirmed death but relatively speaking we have been blessed so far. when you look at the human toll more than 50% of people perish inside their cars. when i hear about people needing calls for help they have not heeded the warnings. harris, i believe it was tonight, a major event in downtown houston, this is a normal saturday night out and people go to movies and my concern is that again if people didn t pay attention to the potential forecast and they went out during their normal evening thinking it will rain but we ve gone through this and now they are stranded in stock. i m very concerned. remember this started in order and rockport and it s now hard to get to those places where we have search and rescue. we have 900 bps officers are highway patrol and 900 officers in this area south of i tend to san antonio and the coast and it goes beyond that. the core is. we have 1800 guard troops now and we are doing a search and rescue in these areas that have been devastated, leveled, in towns like victoria which have nearly a hundred thousand people which is not far from rockport. now the search and rescue may have to expand. i m positive it will expand to houston now because of the people who will be stranded and this rain i talked about that were having right now, harris, it s a forecasted to continue maybe 12 or 15 or 20 hours. all of our bayous and creeks will be over their banks if they are not already and this is a massive part of the storm that we feared and we are concerned about. this is still with the eye gel in the victoria, rockport area, a good 150 miles away or so and that is not even having the storm possibly come back and loop around and come back to houston, galveston later this week. harris: is this what was anticipated for houston is the question and the situation is now starting to change. lieutenant governor patrick, you may know this already but my crew is telling me now that the mayor of houston, the police department, you talked about those 900 officers that are out there helping and they are getting ready to holding emergency news conference to communicate to the people of houston. can you talk to me a little bit about the size of houston, population -wise, i think we need to dig deeper into this because this is changing as we speak. you talk about those sheets of rain and you have 4 inches in 58 minutes in just the last hour and this is a situation now that is evolving much faster than anyone might have anticipated because you were 200 miles away from the center of harvey. talk to me, if you can, but the demographics in terms of where people live, what those areas are like and how many people are there. houston is a town of about two and a half million in the county of paris. as the for largest third-largest county in the country. if you take in all the surrounding areas your well over 5 million people that on a 3:00 o clock in the morning when there s no one on the road you can drive from one end of the west side of far houston to the east end and a half an hour where it s a spread out town. traffic, of course, it takes you longer but that s the breadth of the city. north to south from the bush intercontinental airport and beyond all the way down to galveston, people think of houston quite frankly as being from galveston. that s about a 70-mile stretch but houston itself in the surrounding areas as well over 5 million people and were very flat and a lot of concrete in growth. we dealt with flooding in the past but we never had this situation. it s only the third time in history that we ve had a flash flood emergency and so, i m not surprised that the mayor is pulling together a press conference because we probably have hundreds of motorists out there stranded and i may be cutting that number short. i m hoping that if the rain got heavier earlier this evening that people decided to cut off their dinner plans and went back home because by tomorrow morning, harris, it could be hard for people to get anywhere in houston particularly in the areas what will happen this time is that neighborhoods that have never flooded the floor will have flood. again, this is day one for us. the real tropical. we have about five or 8 inches of rain in the last 24 hours and storm first came into rockport but it s picking up an opportunity to end anytime soon. we need your prayers. harris: you have our prayers. absolutely. the people of texas will put together, neighbor by neighbor, street by street, county by county, city by city and we will do this but right now it is definitely a flash flood emergency for the whole town. don t forget, harris, all of the refineries that we have. thirty refineries along the coast that have been shut down and will now be down for several more days because workers may not be able to get to work. harris: and that may not be her first priority at this point with 5 million people who are dealing with flooding. lieutenant governor, as we are speaking i m also getting information that this is going to complicate efforts to speed up those people, some 20000 who are stuck on cruise ships because the ports are closed along the gulf. what is the latest on that situation? i don t know except i do know i see the carnival ships in the royal caribbean ship, last i heard, cannot get into galveston as planned. they would ve been early in the morning but if you would go to new orleans and the others were coming in later and they ll have to work that out and turned to another port whether it s in florida and they ll have to find a place to land and bring people back here. right now, you are right. the refineries and oil production in this part of the country, people may be watching and listening and be saying that terrible but it doesn t impact me but this will have a big impact on energy across the country. they ll get those refineries back up and working as quickly as they can put all of those workers have to take care of their families first in their homes first and it s about the safety of them and their families. i would expect that to impact energy for this week across the country and i m thankful for president trump who has i don t know he could have worked any faster helping governor abbott as giving us all the assets we need an governor abbott has done a great job of staging everything but if you can t get to somewhere, you can t get there and it s getting very hard for us to get to where we need to get but i can our rescue take teams will do a great job as they always do. we ll have to wait and see the sun come up and hopefully get an opportunity to find people where they are and help them. harris: lieutenant governor dan patrick, with us tonight. he s putting out a call now for the 5 million or so people in houston to heed the warnings because the storm has taken a different shift with a whole lot of rain. lieutenant governor, thank you for being with us very much. we have a news conference coming up. it s all about houston. their mayor is very concerned. our coverage of tropical storm harvey continues. stay close. it s ok that everybody ignores me when i drive. it s fine. because i get a safe driving bonus check every six months i m accident free. because i don t use my 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as bad as they claim and then this rain came through somewhere around 7:30-8:00 o clock and this is streets are treacherous. it makes absolutely no sense for anyone to be out on the road unless it s an emergency. i can attest and so can the chief attest, judge, trying to get from the tech center we made it most of the way and then we did it the old-fashioned way. we got out and walked the rest of the way. it is just that much water out on the roads. i want to thank the chief he wasn t able to make it all the way but he put put up blockades to keep people from going under the underpasses. because of the amount of water that is being dropped, we decided to set up two shelters. for progression and for people s if their homes get water they can t stay in their homes we wanted to make the shelters available. thanks to metro have also positioned buses at those shoulder locations in the vicinity to get people as quickly as possible out of their homes. i will tell you that it has now exceeded the banks and some of the homes in the west area are taking in water. the last, just before i left i know that the bayou was close to its bank and i can t tell you whether if it has exceeded or come out of this but it was right at its bank because this last band. much installed in the area but it s gradually moving. i think the anticipated and moved somewhere around 1015 or 10:30 and we shall see. then i want to underscore how dangerous it is to be on the road. we got word that there might be was in a vehicle who may have lost her life. not in an underpass but just driving and being overtaken by water. we are thoroughly investigating that matter. i cannot underscore the importance if people stay at home unless it s an emergency and allow us to do what we do best. allow us to make sure that you are safe and most people in fact, in most instances people don t lose their lives because they are at home in their home. they lose their lives or they are seriously injured when they are on the streets. that is when the injuries occur in fatalities occur so, the safest place is in your home. be reminded that this is a four or five day event, not a one day or two day event. these advance will come and go and it s very important for everyone to do their jobs. the judge and i, i appreciate again the cooperation from the county. we are working hand-in-hand and we would ask that if the public would take heed of the notices and advisories then we can get through this one day at a time. anything you want to say contract. thank you. the judge and mayor are spot on with their remarks. the system is experiencing a tremendous amount of rain over a wide area and we have high water on many of our freeways. we re experiencing rainfall rates that go from 3 inches an hour to over four and a half inches an hour. the mayor is spot on. please stay home and stay put. thank you. first of all, thank you for your leadership. we ve been seeing all along that this is a long, protracted event and we been warning people all along to stay off the roads and sally one person at least did not heed that warning and they may have lost their lives. this will continue and everything is flooded around here. the ten freeway where i came from is flooded, regular traffic, we are flooding five we are watching this news conference now in houston and that was a pop-up because of such a serious situation that is going on now. it s an emergency flood alert. the first time we had the lieutenant governor of texas on a moments ago and now the mayor of houston, sylvester turner, the harris county judge and all of them saying the same thing that this is the first time they had to issue this level of flood alert for the city of houston. some 5 million people live in that city and a couple of things that we just heard to take note of. the mayor says that he is now working to confirm with his police department but we may have a second fatality because of harvey. he said the woman got caught in rising waters and they are trying to work to see if she has survived inside her car. moments ago before the pop up news conference we know for certain that the number one way that we see human loss of life in all of this from flooding his people inside their cars, not able to anticipate the rising water in front of them. it is dark and they are asking people to do one of two things, stay in your house and stay up all night or stay in your house and set an alarm to remind yourself to get up and check on your property. neither one of those things includes going outside in getting into your car. they haven t had a lot of electrical outlets is outside of the areas around where harvey had just nearly 200 miles away from houston so people are able to get these warnings and they can watch this on their television set. but there telling people is stay indoors because you are creating a situation with these rain bands that are coming into houston where they have to come and rescue. we do know there have been 13000 military members deployed in this region of texas to try to help out the aftermath and the inundation of rain that is coming right now because of tropical storm party. we know that. in addition to that, lieutenant governor dan patrick telling us moments ago that they had 900 police officers in and around the city of houston to try to keep people from harming themselves by getting behind the wheel and driving through water they cannot see and also answering calls for help from people who were already stranded. in to give the outer areas support outside of houston as they began to get emergency calls. this is not unexpected. that is what is coming out of this news conference. can you imagine 100 more hours of two-4 inches of rain in our. this is not unexpected. it can be avoided in terms of human loss of life. i want to go now to match, if he is ready, we had to bring him inside because the water was coming down sideways on him. there is so much lightning in the city of houston. we want to go back to you. matt, where you re standing now it is is it better but in other areas the fans are moving in and this is creating a serious situation for houston. yeah, we are in a sugar land which is a suburb right outside of houston. there was a small rain just a moment ago but the rain is picking up again. we been on the ground about 36 hours and it has been a consistent torrential wall of rain, soaking wet rain and you have to wonder where will all this water go. we heard the mayor of houston say this will be a five day event and that aligns with what our meteorologists have been forecasting that this is a slow moving storm. it is a marathon, not a sprint. that s where the danger lies. you re also down in the victoria area that the lieutenant governor mentioned and in areas of southeastern texas that were hit hard and as we left our location for our live reports we iran into flash floods. a lot of time you hear the flash flood warnings and you say okay, i ll keep my eyes out on the road and it won t affect me. he iran into a series of rows that were inundated with water and you had to slam on the brakes, stop in reverse and find another route. it took us hours to get out of a small town. your hearing these warnings and the lieutenant governor and mayor say please take caution and stay inside. this is real. it is happening right now in and around houston. harris: matt, i know you ve been talking about the lull. are you see people out? these calls for rescues are traveling in the police department is saying that it has all it can handle right now and they are calling on military members to help out. they will do everything they can but it would help if people would stay in. i knew i don t think anything is moving but i see a lot of water. it s turned into a ghost down here and we see people out and about in fragments but there s not a steady line of traffic. a lot of services are closing gas stations and there are few and far between to find grocery stores and it s much more difficult to go out and pick up something in the store or try to carry on a normal day. perhaps people are heeding the advice and warnings to stay inside. harris: matt, thank you so much. he will come back to you over the next little while because things are changing moment by moment, especially where you are in houston. thank you. coming up here from corpus christi s fire chief. they were right next to rockport so they pay much to car the dead on as well. a lot of distraction is down there and will check in with them. right now the city of houston is in the crosshairs of rain bands that are life-threatening. they want people off the streets as much as possible. you can t evacuate 5 million people due to flooding. you heard the mayor say that they can do is keep people off the street. this is changing very quickly at the very late hour. in addition to all of this, the national hurricane center will give its full update. we will check in with our meteorologists to see what they are saying at this point. this would be the first time that we ve gotten, not a partial but a full update, which will take into account those hundreds to 120 additional hours of rain that they are expecting in this region. harvey is a beast. stay put. because it s tough on grease yet gentle. i am home, i am home, i am home it s happening, it s happening! in the modern world, you can control just about anything with an app. your son is turning on all the lights again! you can do the same with your car insurance with the esurance mobile app. esurance. click or call. searching one topic. that will generate over 600 million results. and if you ve been diagnosed with cancer, searching for answers like where to treat, can feel even more overwhelming. so start your search with a specialist at cancer treatment centers of america. start with teams of cancer treatment experts under one roof. start where specialists use advanced genomic testing to guide precision 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the eastern edge of the tropical storm circulation all the way to portions of the louisiana this is a tornado watch which means the conditions are there and it s pulling moisture off the gulf of mexico, warm air, it spots up trails. typically a tornado off of a hurricane is not particularly powerful and that has been the case today but this line has been powerful. it s been a slow mover and you see it now at this point on the eastern half of houston which means it is slowly moving out of that area and folks in houston will get a break but it s been such a slow mover and if you re in that area you re still saying that heavy rain as much as 4 inches an hour and it s not moving me but that can begin to pile up on you me and that is why as we look at our flood watch is and warnings we have flash flood warnings off to the houston area stretching down to galveston as we talk about areas and is in that bands where we ve seen heavy rain now. this is the watch because conditions are there in the green when you could get caught in a band and see flooding completely. the ground is saturated and it all it takes is a band to talk by and you could be talking about flooding. here were looking at tropical storm harvey and is continuing to spend but are most in recent information is that winds are down to 50 miles an hour that does begin to slow down. this came onshore at 130 miles an hour but it s turning and turning and paying off a whole lot of rain and that is the biggest story going forward. it s moving inland and as we track into sunday and monday it will drift its way back to the coast because of the high pressure system to the north and it will pick up more golf moisture and this is why becomes a big problem. it has nowhere to go. it goes back to the gulf, picks up more moisture and what does it do? it ll drop rain. those in the corpus christi area back up to houston will continue see rain. here these circles are the majority of the heavy rain is on the east side of this stretching up to houston but through sunday into monday into tuesday into wednesday we continue to see this rain drop and drop and drop. that is why you can t give yourself a break because it is not stopping anytime soon. these are the forecast models with chris christie on the good side of the storm only maybe five additional inches of rainfall but as you head north you see spots of 30, 35 additional inches of rain and as of right now looking at perhaps another 20 inches of rain in houston and you can tell there spots outside of houston at 30-35. harris, a lot more rain. it s for five more days of this. harris: before i let you go, adam, because will bring you back after our next guest we ve had our first full update from the national hurricane center and i m wondering if there s anything you can tell us because you ve taken us to the bands but anything to indicate this will break apart a little faster because it seems to be holding together or am i getting that wrong? it is weakening and it has weakened consistently and were down to 50 miles an hour and this is speed i am talking about so it is weakening that s not stopping the rain. that s a different beast and that is sticking with us the next couple of days. harris: adam, thank you for joining me now is lieutenant general russell and he led the coordination of hurricane katrina. it is good to see you. i want to know from your experience what happens when you get this much rain, the grant is inundated with water already, what happens to your structures because the lieutenant governor in the mayor of houston are saying that they want people to set an alarm to get up to check on their property. well, i will not disagree with the local leadership because they re trying to make sure people have situational awareness to see if the water is coming near or about to get in their homes so they can take proper actions. but let me say this, to the people of houston, there s a near connection to my experience katrina because there are people in houston that reached out to new orleans during katrina and they open their doors and took the survivors from the superdome and took them and took care of them after katrina. everyone in louisiana, our hearts are wide open for what is happening in houston. that being said, were in it day one of the body day event by all protections. day one we started off with 135 miles an hour went with the sustained winds of an hour about 50 miles an hour on day two. day three coming up on monday we could end up with still having 35-mile an hour winds with rain. this will continue to get better and people s homes are 13 by flooding now despite what the mayor said they would have to move people out of low-lying areas. they can t wait until the place of floods to start moving people. there are good weather protections to show based on the rainfall of where the next places will flood and those models are available and i posted on twitter at foxnews map with the flood zone of houston in a flood zone. at the beginning of the problem. nobody s fault. [inaudible] they never stop building. as you continue to build, we will have these issues when we get big, heavy rains. that s a problem we have. right now it s trying to keep people alive and it s worth evacuation five lieutenant general, what i hear you saying is that you re supporting the people on the ground there, the leadership also using your experience from katrina and you re saying that they do have to start to look to move people. you have 5 million people and they are saying in the area of houston that neighborhoods that have never thought of before, streets and have never flooded before and their scene of floods and there are some areas that they can anticipate so what you re suggesting is that they look at some of the coverage maps and take a best guess and move people. other people want to come there as a refuge. it gets complicated in crowded and what they really need is for people to stay in their homes at this point. lieutenant general, we appreciate your time and expertise. take you very much. god bless, texas. harris: absolutely. continuing coverage at tropical storm harvey continues right after this. there s a special essence in herbal essences it s bio:renew a blend of sea kelp, aloe and antioxidants that help bring your hair back to life. herbal essences. let life in. mi m evenarts win the kitchen. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba®. tresiba® ready tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours. i need to shave my a1c. tresiba® ready tresiba® works like my body s insulin. releases slow and steady. providing powerful a1c reduction. i m always on call. an insulin that fits my schedule is key. tresiba® ready i can take tresiba® any time of day. so if i miss or delay a dose, i take it when i remember, as long as there s at least 8 hours between doses. once in use, it lasts 8 weeks with or without refrigeration, twice as long as the lantus® pen. 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[inaudible] people are helping us now were doing our share in helping others. harris: amen. fire chief, robert, they re lucky to have you and your team. thank you for joining us. thank you ma am. harris: coming up, politics are in the news along with harvey. we are now finding out that the house speaker paul ryan has joined senator john mccain in criticizing the president pardoning a farmer sheriff joe arpaio. our political panel as we continue to monitor harvey, we ll talk politics next. stay with us. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won t go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it. you ready? by their second kid, every mom is an expert, and more likely to. .choose luvs than first time moms. live, learn, & get luvs. when only the best will do. one of a kind tempur-pedic delivers. only tempur material precisely conforms to your weight, shape and temperature. it provides up to twice as much pressure relieving power, so you won t toss and turn. and tempur-pedic is the best at minimizing motion transfer from your partner. you ll wake up, feeling like a champion. now through september 17th, save up to $500 on select adjustable sets. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com harris: it has been a very busy weekend so far politics, in addition to the storm coverage. a spokesperson for the speaker of the house, paul ryan, says he does not agree with president trump s decision to pardon arizona sheriff joe arpaio. as you may know, ohio was convicted last month on criminal content for violating a court order. turning me now to talk about it is lawrence jones and democratic strategist to chuck schumer, michael. lawrence, i will start with you. what is the significance of the speaker of the house coming forward now and saying i don t agree with the president he can t change it. right, part of the problem is that i think the conservatives and libertarian side of the party are critical because this is a court order and a lot of people, especially libertarians like me are always concerned when people violate the fourth amendment. this has nothing to do with our position on immigration because we believe that joe should have been able to enforce the law when it comes to immigration but that specific clause whether there was profiling taking place and since there was a conviction of him refusing to abide by that court order, i think that is where the concern is. harris: michael, your political party has dealt with this with an infamous pardoned by bill clinton had to do? rich and i think we still talk about this as one of those examples of perhaps presidential overreach even though he was and the ground to be able to do it. presidential pardons are always controversial and there more than just margaret. my colleague was focusing on policy. the politics of this is what speaker ryan is prominently concerned about. he is a national voice and has the majority conference in the house up for reelection in 2018 that he needs to protect putting distance between this, i believe, odious party and his members in seats that may be in play is really his number one priority five it s been written tonight, lawrence, that there are complications for republicans when you make a decision like this. what would those be exactly? i would caution the gentleman of the distance themselves from the president. let s be clear, the president is still the leader of the party whether there are some in the party who agree or not. this president even when we talk about those district, the president got two points in a district where joe lost by three. when we look at paul ryan i think this is more a possible move. i think it s more of a political move where he was distancing himself from the president and the president still have a good command of the republican party is and where the party is going. i think he has the face. i wouldn t say he s distancing himself from the president for political standpoint. harris: michael, if you had to look back for democrats and say the one lesson that you learned from bill clinton in the march ridge situation what would it be smart. it would be again that you need to go into that situation knowing that you will be criticized in knowing you ll be had and having all of your ducks in a row and have your talking points prepared. generally you do this toward the end of your tenure when there s less of the political fallout and less of a cons once. in this case, it does with the residents of houston in texas that you ve been speaking to and about, so beautifully all evening, does this is a disservice because taking time away from that story to talk about this. the timing of it was done to minimize the conversation. but, harris, i would say that the democrats knew this all the time. you have president obama released people that committed treason and let s not pretend that this is more of a partisan the only thing different is that the president did it early on in his presidency which we shouldn t be surprised on because he is not the traditional politics. harris: you too will stay up late with me because are going to squeeze in more politics among all of the storm coverage that is breaking this our. you stay with us. nice. cascade. i wanted to know where i did my ancestrydna. the most shocking result was that i m 26% native american. i had no idea. it s opened up a whole new world for me. it s time for the biggest sale of the year with the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your every move and automatically adjusts on both sides to keep you effortlessly comfortable. and snoring.. does your bed do that? 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recognizes that sound. well, that s correct, brian. if you remember defense secretary mattis was the first led the first marines on the ground shortly after 9/11. let s get with the breaking news, moments ago fox news has learned the taliban claimed responsibility for a massive rocket attack at kabul s international airport. 40 to 45 rockets and rocket propelled grenades landed near the passenger terminal just less than two hours after defense secretary jim mattis arrived with his entourage which included the press. now, i m told that mattis was in no danger. he had already left the area aboard helicopter and rocket attack was not near the location where he landed. but, still, brian, it s the same airport and certainly raises a lot of questions about security in afghanistan 16 years after the 9/11 attacks. now, mattis a day ago was traveling in india, which might have put the taliban on some kind of alert. it was not public that defense secretary mattis would be arriving in kabul today. he arrived on board an air by defense secretary mattis after president trump announced a new plan for south asia for afghanistan and pakistan where 3,000 additional troops would be arriving shortly in afghanistan to join the more than 11,000 u.s. troops currently there. now, already, the u.s. air force has been stepping up air strikes in afghanistan, there were more air strikes in august than any month since 2012. back to you guys. steve: all right. lucas tomlinson live at the pentagon with the breaking news. thank you very much. abby: 16 years later. we have been in afghanistan for 16 years and it s still this dangerous? brian: that s a good point, abby. i would say this. they say the rules of engagement have changed. i saw a body make that statement at the u.n. it s night and day the difference in philosophies under this secretary of defense and this administration. they are putting more men but not to do the surge but to change who we are hunting for and how to protect. steve: meanwhile, we will get more developments, taking you down to alabama and that man on the horse is the big winner. there he is judge roy moore. he was riding up on tuesday to vote. that horse, by the name, is sundance. and as you know, this was a classic case where the antiestablishment took on the establishment and in this case even though roy moore did not have the endorsement of the president of the united states, he won by 9 points. interestingly enough, when apparently donald trump s endorsement really didn t help because roy moore beat luther strange in the primary by 6. and with the president s endorsement he actually beat him by 9. abby: it s interesting because a lot of people say roy moore s brand and what he stood for was far more in line with president trump than luther strange. here he is last night before giving victory speech where he took some time to defend the second amendment. nearly three months of negative ads, that we couldn t answer with money because we didn t have it, ads that were completely false. that s right. that i don t believe in the second amendment. [laughter] i believe in the second amendment. guns don t kill. people kill. cars kill. are we going to get rid of our cars? are we going to get rid of our knives? no. we got to bring morality back to our country. brian: a lot of people said if roy moore wins democrats logical pour money in because they think he will be vulnerable. he knows sports. when they start asking specific questions, he was kind of at a loss. roy moore knows his issues. obviously is he a legend in the area and extremely knowledgeable. he has to start blitzing the books and issues that maybe senator luther strange had down pat and mo brooks because the democrats are saying they are running doug jones and although it s a long shot to take that seat, they, perhaps, are going to give it a real shot if they can find some vulnerabilities with him. steve: the president of the united states sent this tweet out. remember, he had been supporting luther strange. he sent out a tweet yesterday supporting luther strange. last night he sent out a congratulations to roy moore on republican win in alabama. luther strange started way back and ran a good race. roy win in december. of course that s when he does take on the democrat. meanwhile, let s talk about abby: roy moore will be on the show later on this morning. steve: fantastic. abby: do you think he will be up for us? brian: december will have run off and many people assume he will get that. abby: the brand he was running on sort of this outside washington, away from the swamp. so interesting that the election happened a day that healthcare went down yet again. the frustration that some american people feel about the lack of work that s being done in washington. and once again, i think this is more about a movement than it is about any particular individual or any candidate or even about entrepreneurship. brian: do you think this is bannon against trump? you can write us. i will bring this up, too. is that yesterday he goes down and the sort of healthcare go down. and roy moore made it clear. he wouldn t have voted for it many people speculate he will be a rand paul type senator sticking. abby: principles. brian: principles rather than compromising. steve: i was reading in the alabama newspapers that said if donald trump was the middle finger to the republican establishment last year, roy moore is the middle finger on the other hand. meanwhile, let s talk about how the number one topic in the country has been whether or not the nfl players should stand during the national anthem. now, good news for the president of the united states a juvenile court of americans, according to a couple of polls say they are with the president on that. a number of democrats and there you see some of the players who took the knee on sunday. a number of democrats actually took a knee in the u.s. congress, too, by name. sheila jackson lee and mark. you tell me which of those children s mothers is a son of a b. that is racism. you cannot deny it you cannot run for it and i kneel in honor of them. i join so many now in the nfl and elsewhere in taking a knee for the america that we all aspire it to be. we should also point out a republican by the name of alex mooney from west virginia defended president trump for saying the nfl s players should stand after those two took a knee. brian: kneilson gave them bad news. the games are down slightly year to year. monday night football this monday night was up 3%. maybe it s because a lot had to do perhaps with the cowboys. i m fascinated to see what s going to happen this week. i was watching benjamin watson last night for the ravens, and he said we all want to stand. i m getting the sense they want this to end. they just don t know how. that s why i want the commissioner and the union president to get together and give everyone a face-saving way out. there is no winners here. abby: they want to get back to what this is all about to begin with? it s football. get the politics out of it. i think maybe some of the viewership maybe because it was up 3%. people want to know what s going on. are people going to kneel or stand? people are fascinated by. this the nfl has become now propaganda for the left. here is what he said. we re dealing with liberalism here and we re dealing with the left and that s just not how they operate. everybody knows how much i love the nfl and how bigger than life it has always seemed bigger to me. doesn t seem bigger than life. it seems like a tool now. it has become something being used by the political forces of the left to advance their agenda. which is anti-american agenda. steve: and we mentioned the polls. the reuters poll that we put up a moment ago shows that a majority of americans stand with the president on this. abby: look at that 85% strongly or somewhat agree. steve: there is a new remington research group out they say 51% of americans are watching less television. football. why? because 70% of the players 70% of the respondents say because they don t like the fact that players are yiewrszing the nfl as a stage for their political views. and 80% of americans want to see less politics in sports. brian: right. steve: politics are okay on a news show not so good on the field. brian: rushing limbaugh is going to be on with sean. some of the best in sports play football. i know they want out of this political mess. jillian: you wonder how you get out though. that s the big question. we will keep you posted. for now get you caught up on the headlines of the morning. convicted killer scheduled to die spared by the supreme court for enough to. overnight justices grant ago safe execution for 59-year-old keith leroy thramp. coming hours after tha tharp be put to death. he was disabled and one of the jurors was racist. was convicted of murdering his sister-in-law three decades ago. president trump is planning a visit to the u.s. island of puerto rico. the earliest can i go because of the first responders and we don t want to disrupt the relief efforts. jillian: the white house also amending a disaster declaration promising more federal funding as power, clean water, and gas remain in short supply. the navy is now preparing to send its hospital ship to puerto rico to help with relief efforts. the u.s. navy also on the grounds of the island of domenica demolished by the category 5 storm. new video showing american service members loading families on board a helicopter. many of them young children. one of the kids giving a sailor a high five after getting strapped in before heading to a shelter. maria killing at least 27 people on that island. guys? abby: thank you, jillian. brian: president trump set to unveil a tax plan today. we will give it to you but not yet. or have flu-like symptoms, or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn s medication isn t working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. brian brian roy moore won last night. declaring victory yesterday in a heated senate primary race but he won easily. what we saw the president go with the washington establishment candidate luther strange and they seemed to have a personal relationship. here to react now is republican national committee chair i don t mean ronna mcmcdaniel. did the wrong person win. the voters chose. that s always the right way. the voters chose their nominee we will get in and make sure roy moore is the next senator from alabama and the voters do the right thing. brian: democrats see vulnerability there because is he someone new to the national stage. there is more republicans than democrats in alabama. let s do the math. so the rnc will go in and put our ground game in place. we will turn out our voters and roy moore is going to be the next senator. brian: the senator tweeted last night congratulations to roy moore go ahead i didn t memorize it on republican win in alabama. luther ran a good race. roy was very classy in defeat last night which is a great quality to have that hillary clinton has not displayed. having said that he quickly went to the president reached back and roy moore reached over. how important is that? it s critical. and we knew that was going to happen. have you these primaries. you put your best foot forward and then you come together. our purpose unites us. as republicans we know what we need to get done for this country and we need to support the president s agenda. brian: mitch mcconnell wanted luther strange. many say this was mitch mcconnell against steve bannon and mitch mcconnell s candidate sheparded in $30 million from you guys and he still lost. what does that say about the leader? what should he take from this? well, just coming from michigan, voters want to choose their own candidates. they don t like washington coming in and saying this is going to be your next senator. and so let the process play out. let the primaries play out. let the voters choose who the nominee is going to be and then bring the establishment, in the party structure in to help get that candidate across the finish line. brian: when you go talk to the people you are getting frustration back when you talk to republican donors as well as voters. what are they saying to you? i was in pennsylvania this week. they are frustrated. they are saying we sent you there. we gave you the white house, the senate, and the house. we want the repeal and replacement of obamacare. it s hurting us. our lives are hurting. i hear that the president hears it. he is never giving up on this. we need to expand our margins in 2018. hold on we need to give you a better senate. we have an opportunity to expand our senate majority. brian: different reasons collins, murkowski, mccain and rand paul are holding their ground and not playing ball with the rest. who is right them holding to their principles or the others. the fact we made this promise and not delivering and two can we governor with the majority? we need to show people we deserve the majority. brian: crazy time but intense time. coming up straight ahold in fact we will do nfl story. bun one of the biffle bills taking a to me. one worker said he quit. we will talk to him. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how s your mom? 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after the anthem ended, i took off my buffalo bills hat. threw it on the ground. took off my security shirt and walked out of the tunnel. i went and quit my job. steve: why did this protest affect you so deeply? because it was during the national anthem and that s something i hold dear to my heart. a lot of people have fought and died for this country. the song and the flag signify that to me. and i have a lot of friends that are veterans. i have family members that are disabled veterans. and my father was a career war vet or is a career war vet. and it just the national anthem and the flag mean a lot to me. so, in my heart, i had to take my stand. it was a personal stand. and i had to quit. steve: you just mentioned your father. after you took the stand and you quit because you were so infewer @red by this nfl protest and there is a picture of you with your dad at a birthday. yeah. steve: what did your dad do? he called me that night and he was broken up. he was proud of me but he was in tears with pride. steve: why? because i stood up for veterans and, you know, i did the right thing. and my heart and his heart. i took a stand and even though i stood alone, i still took the stand. steve: erich how long have you worked for the bills as a security guy and what are the people saying? what are the fans saying in buffalo? i started the bills the first year they went to the super bowl. and i have worked most of the years in between. and i really i haven t talked to any of the fans i talk to some co-workers who give me a lot of support and, you know, i, of course, have gotten a lot of support on facebook. steve: sure. from veterans, other law enforcement officers. gold star mothers. and, of course, i have gotten some hate mail. steve: yep. on facebook. i take that for what it s worth. steve: erich what should the players be doing instead of kneeling? i believe kneeling, is, to me, is the players saying there s a problem, someone else fix it. i believe if they went out into the community, took some time and did something for a solution as opposed to just kneeling and saying someone else fix this. be a solution. do something about it. steve: well, have you got your sunday afternoons available now. what are you going to do? yes, sir. spend a lot of time with my wife, my children, my grandson, my parents. steve: well, good for you. thank you very much for coming in today, erich and telling us your side of the story. thank you very much, sir. i appreciate it. steve: all right, erich who quit sunday for the bills because he didn t like the protests. yes, sir. steve: what do you think about that write us at friends@foxnews.com or tweet or facebook us as well. what s in the healthcare bill? we can t tell you until later this morning. here is a hint, a good bit of news for the middle class. we are live in washington with details coming up. this ain t the red wagon you had as a kid. this one right there is big and goes zero to 90 in seven seconds. and happy birthday to our friend meat loaf. meat loaf is 70 years old today. that s a lot of candles on that loaf i would do anything for love but i won t do that no, i won t do that a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey. oh. that s my robe. is it? you could save seven hundred eighty two dollars when liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance. but on the inside, i feel chronic, widespread pain.like most people. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i m glad my doctor prescribed lyrica. for some, lyrica delivers effective relief for moderate to even severe fibromyalgia pain. and improves function. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who ve had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can do more with my family. talk to your doctor today. see if lyrica can help. or not. professional athletes should be required to stand during the national anthem, that number still above majority 58%. but obviously lower than 85%. we were talking about this in the commercial break, steve, we actually are different on this. because i think it s about as disrespectful as it can get when you decide to kneel during the national anthem. whenever you decide to disrespect the flag our national anthem whatever this country stands for. you don t want to put in place. to put a rule in saying players are forced to stand. that s not what this country was founded on. i spent time living in china. i have seen how the people live over there. when you start putting rules in place. where does that end? brian: if i have my private business, and let s say for this sake let s say the nfl, the commissioner of the nfl hired by the owners of the team and league. i have a bunch of rules. okay. they are going to wear white shoes and socks so high. are they going to appear on time. the n b says when you are hurt i want you on the sidelines with a suit and tie. just my rule. okay. i will say one other thing when it comes to the national anthem. as a private company, you should say if that s what you believe, stand with your hand over your heart, or at least stand at attention on the sideline. if not you will be fined. abby huntsman says i don t think that s what america is about. can you say abby go to the cfl or go to the union with the players and say i want that changed. steve: it s one of the rules. brian: because it s private. steve: rules of place of employment privately held. all these stories floating around apparently i read in marc thiessen op-ed in the the washington post yesterday that it is a requirement, it s part of the nfl contract that during the national anthem players have got to stand and have to be facing the old glory. brian: here is how you pars it. it s not a rule. it s one of these regulations that people put into place. buff the nfl a year ago didn t enforce it when collin kaepernick, they let it go. so it s gone wild. steve: completely on the nfl because they didn t enforce it. abby: i just worry about what that would do to this country because that is what we were founded on the ability to protest, the ability to stand up for something you believe. in when you feel like change needs to be made, this is not the right way to do it. i think we all agree on this couch. there are a million ways to protest and not kneel during this national anthem. when i look at that flag, i think of freedom. when i think about what my brothers are fighting for in the navy, i m thinking about that. brian: abby, nothing you said that is inaccurate. however, if there was a rule, we only get an hour for lunch and you want to be free to take two hours, that judge has every reason to say abby, i am going to have to make a change. taking two hour lunch and we can only allow one hour. you are the best player in the league. i will have to suck it up at some point. when you become a liability more than an asset i m going to make a choice. that s what kaepernick did. if he were the best quarterback in the league he would have 20 offers. be aable he is not. brian: not worth it. the free market would respond to your two hour lunch q. abby: what do you think? email us at friends@foxnews.com. should it be a rule for players to not sit or kneel during the national anthem. i have a feeling more people are going to be with my side. i m actually with the majority 85% who think they should stand always during the national anthem. but when you talk about rules that opens up a different conversation. steve: unfortunately we sometimes have to have rules. anyway, let us know friends@foxnews.com, facebook and twitter us as well. abby: today president trump is heading to pitch the new tax cut for the american people. steve: plan is expected to slash rates for businesses and individuals, particularly the middle class. brian: here to unveal his taxes for the first time on television griff jenkins. show me your taxes. not me. but the house ways and means committee kevin brady will unveil to house members as president trump heads to indiana to start selling it. we will cut taxes tremendously for the middle class. not just a little bit but tremendously. and cut it will be brian. it will cut the corporate tax rate 20% to 35%. cut the tax rate on pass through businesses to 25%. collapse individual tax rate brackets down to 3, 35, 25, 12 we expect dropping from top rate of 39.6 that everyone fears who makes any money, doubling the standard deduction, which is a set amount, of course, of income that anyone is exempt from. and then we also expect some other proposals which eliminate the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax. they expect to expand child care tax credits. they expect to allow businesses to accelerate the expensing of credits and create one time repatriation. it includes the white house, the treasury secretaries, of course chairman brady, majority leader mitch mcconnell orrin hatch and paul ryan. challenge comes in the house and whether or not the house freedom caucus if conservatives like it. they are meeting after the plan sun veiled and possibly voting to see whether or not they support it, guys, big day on tax reform. steve: indeed. brian: report that the president wasn t entirely thrilled with the product he got put in front of him. i don t know if it s lower tax rate jacked up or tax break jacked down. ainsley: you can t give her hints ask her. pay attention, what matters most whether the house freedom caucus likes it they are a big block. pay attention to that. abby: thank you very much, griff. brian: he always has to have the last word. steve: he does because we asked him. 20 minutes before the top of the hour and jillian as the headline word. jillian: good morning and to you at home as well. the teen accused of shooting a police officer in the face stood in front of a judge last week. 18-year-old frank given probation after being caught with a stash of guns and 300 rounds of ammunition. days after that ruling police say he pulled the trigger on officer kayla maher outside of new york city. officer maher was released from hospital yesterday, greeted and cheered by her fellow officers. 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[ buzzer ] abby: kellyanne conway joins us and jeff sessions. chris hogan author of the book retire inspired. at the will be here after the break. brian: box office hits like from heaven and devon franklin. successful career without losing your faith in hollywood. he will join us next other chariot ent heartburn. ent heartburn. all day, and all night. now packed into a pill so small, we call it mini. new clearminis from nexium 24hr. see heartburn differently. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. tide and downy together. this inot this john smith.smith. or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it s this john smith. who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. at humana, we take a personal approach to your health, to provide care that s just as unique as you are. no matter what your name is. one look at you and i can t disguise i ve got hungry eyes i feel the magic between you and i hungry eyes feed those hungry eyes with new signature entrées. applebee s two for twenty. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. brian: it s a podcast. the former vice president launching his own podcast. he insists it won t just feature segments that the reflects his own opinions. senator bob corker is retiring at the end of his term in 2018 after 12 years in the u.s. senate. one name already floating around to replace him nfl legend peyton manning. reportedly golfing with president trump and corker earlier this year. there is going to be many other names in this mix. abby? abby: peyton manning senator. sounds good. are you planning for retirement paying off student loans. or saving money. never easy. back to tackle questions. retire inspired. best selling author with ramsey solution joins us now. we get you for free, chris, thanks for being here. thank you for having me. abby: these are emails coming in from viewers. this is from keith from florida. my wife and i have about $45,000 in student loans. we contribute about $1,200 per month toward retirement. should we stop investing to pay off the student loans sooner? keith, you absolutely want to stop investing so can you send that money plus any extra that you are already making and attack that student loan debt faster. literally with the payment you are making and extra 1200. you could knock out the student loan 18 months or less. free yourself up. once have you that paid off. build up 3 to 6 month emergency fund and then go back to investing with a clearer conscience. abby: this is from greg in kentucky. my goal is to retire in 10 years when i m 26 years old but i don t have much saved for retirement. what strategy should i take to build a larger nest egg to hit my goal? well, greg, first of all, i am excited that you have a goal and you have a target. now what we need is a plan. so, i would sit down and really start to think about where can i earn some extra money you? know you want to retire in 10 years. that s going to take some work. that s a pretty hefty goal i know can you do it. look at your current budget and figure out what you can cut back and cut out. bring in that extra money. above all, sit down with an investment professional that can look at what you have and if there are any tweaks that need to be made. abby: that s good advice. this is from mallory in washington says my husband and i would like to buy a house in the next three to four years. where should we save and where should we put the money. buying a home is the american dream. i want to you sit down and think about how much home can you afford. you don t want a mortgage payment that s going to be more than 25% of take home pay. you want to be focused. start to look at it i would love for you to save 20% of the down payment so you don t have to pay private mortgage insurance. so putting that 20% down will avoid pmi and then i want you to only get a 15-year fixed rate mortgage. you can put that money setting aside in a money market account, down payment. let it sit there because it will be easily ache says cybil when you get ready to make that purchase. abby: we love having you on the show. thank you so much. thank you so much. abby: thank you all of you for sending in your questions. still ahead kellyanne conway, jeff sessions and big winner in the state of alabama last night roy moore all here live. he is the man behind box office hits like miracles from heaven and devon franklin says you don t have to lose your faith in hollywood, not just yet. he joins us live next i will be faithful faithful think again. this is the new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov the views that he believes it s possible to have a successful career without losing your faith and he learned it in the most unlikely place possible that is hollywood. steve: he has written a brand new book called the hollywood commandments guide t a spiritual guide to secular success. good morning. good morning. steve: a lot of people think hollywood has to do with greed and fame. i have been in hollywood 20 years and raised a christian. you would be shocked how much i have seen god operate in hollywood. i think this is why i wanted to write the book. too often we don t see the value in secular environments. and i have learned more about faith. i have learned more about success working a secular environment than i actually learned growing up in a church. i wanted to put my faith to, would. that s why i wrote the book. too offensive we see spiritual teaching to the weekend and we come to work and take it off. but if you pare your spiritual teaching with secular strategy you will find success. brian: alonging at people and saying they don t have the same beliefs or passion i do for my faith and be successful or do you learn from people who don t have your faith. you learn from people who don t have your faith and you also learn from the industry in which you are working. there is so much to learn about success, about excellence, about discipline in whatever industry you are working. sometimes we miss the practical value of absorbing the industry that we are in and realizing that we don t have to compromise what we believe to find success in these industries. combining what the industry can teach us along with what we believe spiritually, that is the combination that will make us successful no matter what we do. abby: i love that and a i think that works for a place like hollywood but in any industry that you are in you think about politics today. how do you open people s minds though. how do you help people want to hear another perspective and say look, it s not going to change the way i think but it can help me better understand the conversation as a whole? one of my favorite commandments is you have to carry a crown before you wear one. the value of service. when i serve with excellence, i create a relationship and dynamic by which someone would be open to hear who i am and what i m about. that s is what we have missed. service is the key. can you never get out of style when you meet a need. steve: one of your other commandments and b by the book all 10 of them. your gut is hiding god. yes, what i mean by that is we all have an intuition. we all hear god speak to us. but sometimes it defies our logic. so we want to talk ourselves out of it we want to operate in fear. when you hear god speak to you, you have to move. this has worked for me because there was a time when i was, you know, at sony, i had my company at sony franklin entertainment and god told me it was time to move. i moved. do you know where i ended up fox? my film deal is on the side of fox. if i had not done it and moved when god told me, i would have missed my chapter. brian: in hollywood think about my look and my mission and my wardrobe. one of the success is get out of your own head and stop focusing on yourself. too often we are in the selfish generation we want me, me, me. we when we take the camera and focus to other people. how can i meet their need and do what they do. how can i make my boss excellent today? what you realize your boss sees you as an asset or liability. when you make yourself an asset to no matter how work for you will never find yourself a day out of work. abby: could you stay with us all morning long? i m here. brian: especially if you are going to go into that industry. extreme high self-esteem and why you are in it? that s the same pretty much anywhere else you go. steve: there are 8 other commandments we haven t talked about. check out the new book it s called the hollywood commandments. brian: don t you hate when he outdresses us? i m focused on me so i blew the whole thing up. steve: abby and i look great. yeah, you do. steve: thank you, sir. counselor to the president of the united states kellyanne conway is going to be joining us live. brian: congressman brian mast lost his legs in afghanistan. he sent powerful message to those ho won t stand for the anthem. i wanted to be clear. i wanted it to last. so i kept on fighting. i found something that worked. and keeps on working. now? 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abby: good question. some people just want a change. they want a change in lifestyle and want a different challenge. steve: is he a born leader. brian: another name is michele bachmann. she would be fantastic from tennessee. she is great. steve: anyway, a busy two hours for you on this wednesday morning. right now though, a fox news alert. brian: claiming responsibility for a rocket attack targeting defense secretary james mattis shortly after landing in afghanistan last night. abby: pentagon producer lucas tomlinson is live for us from the pentagon and has brand new details. what are you hearing? good morning, abby. less than two hours before defense secretary jim mattis arrived at kabul s international airport u.s. officials tell me 40 to 345 rockets and rocket propelled grenades slammed to the ground. the fact that grenadesy used indicate some kind of ground assault that taliban claimed responsibility for attacks. james mattis had departed the airport. the taliban are claiming credit for the attack and this raises serious questions about who tipped them off. the attack happened at 7:30 a.m. local time, 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. mattis had been in india the day before and spoke at the press conference in kabul alongside the president of afghanistan about the attack. an attack on wbr id= wbr38397 /> an /b> international airport anywhere in the world is a criminal act by a terrorist. it s designed to go after generally innocent people to make some sort of statement and this is a classic definition of what the taliban are up to right now. we will suffocate any hope that al qaeda or isis, dash, ha qana any or the taliban have of winning by killing. i want to reinforce to the taliban that the only path to peace and political legitimacy for them is through a negotiated settlement. this is secretary mattis first trip to afghanistan since wbr-id= wbr38735 /> president trump announced a new strategy for the 16-year-old war last month which includes sending more than 3,000 additional u.s. troops to join nearly 11,000 on the ground. and these new troops will be serving closer to the front lines with the ability to call in air strikes. already u.s. jets are increasing the number of bombs they are dropping on the taliban and isis affiliate. last month more bombs were dropped than any time in the last five years. yesterday on capitol hill, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general dunford says pakistan needs to stop harboring the taliban and haqqani network and offering them sanctuary in their country. brian: that, lucas is, probably a warning shot. we all know that s where they regroup and they come across the border you serve and that s what is creating chaos in afghanistan. we have to make that move or else it is fruitless to even continue fighting. steve: hey lucas a quick question for you. since it was unannounced visit with mattis and u.n. secretary general. are they thinking it might be an insider job? that s a possibility, steve. i mean, defense secretary was in india the day before. and many times when, you know, senior u.s. officials travel in the region, they do like to pop in whether it s iraq or afghanistan. but certainly it raises questions about who tipped off the taliban because the rockets landed less than two hours after the defense secretary touched down. steve? steve: all right. lucas tomlinson, our producer at the pentagon. thank you very much. abby: i will tell you one man you don t want to mess with is defense secretary james mattis. brian: no place secure like it used to be in afghanistan so to speak for a few years after the initial invasion. i think if we decide to go into pakistan and start making life hell for the haqqani network and taliban that trains there and is born there and al qaeda that bleeds through there, that will begin to make a better chance for our guys to be unscathed and come back home. steve: get s go wbr id= wbr39930 /> down to the white house right now. kellyanne conway joins us from the north lawn. kellyanne, good morning to you. good morning. steve: it looks like a majority of the americans agree with the president of the united states that people should stand during the national anthem. i saw in the wall street journal people are canceling direct tv sunday ticket so steamed at the players. we had a security guy on just about a half an hour ago. he worked for years for the bills, couldn t take it /b> anymore, he threw in the jersey and said i quit. i can t take it what is going on in america right now? look, about 12% of the nfl players took a knee and protested the other day. that means 88% did not. many americans support the president s position on this because the president is supporting the flag. and everything that it stands for. the men and women who have sacrificed on behalf of our freedoms so that you and i could have this conversation this morning and some gave the ultimate sacrifice. this is about the president standing for the national anthem and the flag. more importantly showing unity across the country for many people who agree with that i also read a story late last night that shows somebody who sings the national anthem for nfl teams has also quit, doesn t want to sing the national anthem anymore just because he doesn t want to be part of this controversy. steve: for the ravens. that s right. but i think there is an important lesson here as a mother of young children very important lesson. i want them to understand what that flag means. everybody in this country knows an active military person. knows a veteran. touched by the veteran community. and i think that general dunford put it best. you have to really remember what that flag stands for. i was talking to somebody who lost a loved one overseas in combat. and basically said there is a reason that the flag comes back, that that coffin comes back to andrews air force base draped in our american flag. and that really, i think, brought it home for me. brian: so much going on about this. but it has started in 2016 when president obama was president. this didn t just start. this president brought it forward. the question is being that at least seven nfl owners are so passionate for donald trump, they actually gave to his campaign probably more. knows a lot of them personally. do you think the president will be open to hearing from those owners with some select players and union members to try to work a way through this? because right now both sides are talking at each other and they seem both dug in and the fans are in the middle. well, this president is always open to speak to. steve: here we go. any number of people. he has probably held more meetings, round tables, oval office visits in first 8 months than many presidents have done in a much longer period of time. so, of course. but, remember, this is not this should not be seen as a clash of personalities. this is about principles. is not about politics. this is about what binds us as a nation. we can t have what binds us as a nation by those who get a mega phone every single day. particularly on tv shows and in print. what we need to know there are very few things and very dispiridispirit growing country. of course the president i will sit at that table with anybody who wants to come here. they can call me today if he this would like to do that. we are always open to that our experience has been on other issues that many people don t want to come here and have the conversation because when you actually sit down to converse about it and discuss it, you are taking away one of their major talking points and one of their major points of grievance. abby: the conversation was ignited, of course, in alabama last night. brian: we just got a brand new tweet. why don t you read this. abby: this is from president trump. spoke to jerry jones of the dallas cowboys yesterday. jerry is a winner who knows how to get things done. players will stand for the country it seems like kellyanne is he going to stay on this topic. a lot of critics saying so much on his plate right now. we have got to move on. it s a distraction. seems like is he doing the opposite of that. the president addressed that very question in the rose gardens yesterday during bilaterally meeting with the prime minister of spain. i work all the time. i can do many things at once. some focuses who cover the president for a living only focus on one or two things at a time. we should reflect upon that he had a bilaterally meeting yesterday. is he working on healthcare. flee up to new york. is he revealing tax plan today in indians. we are really excited about that. the president, all these presidents in the 21st century, somehow become part of the so-called culture war and larger societal conversation. accepted but almost expected by many americans to weigh in. steve: is he going to weigh in and hear more about the tax plan in a little while. tell us what you can tell us about how the tax structure would change under this plan. i have seen the president s speech today. it s an excellent let address that really lays out his vision and one that he has been working on with the congress. steve: what is the congress vision? the vision is four major principles. americans spend 6 billion man hours a year that we can certainly use doing other things just complying with the code. the code currently favors the wealthy and privileged and well-connected who can hire attorneys and accountants that can help them navigate and take advantage of these deductions and credits, many of which go away in the donald trump legislative plan for tax overhaul. secondly, just to reduce the rates and to make sure to reduce the brackets from 7 to 3 and reduce the rates on the middle class so they actually get a pay raise. this is not just a tax bill. it s a jobs bill. abby: how does the president define the middle class? we still have yet to hear that from the white house. that s an important part of what comes out of this tax plan. it is. of course the accountant actuaries are brilliant economic minds here and across the cabinet are working on that. congress will need to come to terms with that as well as, you know. i think the most important point, abby, is that most of the country middle class and most of the polling. they people need a tax break. also, we need to reduce the rate on job creatorrers. creato. we have encouraged american businesses to park their wealth and jobs overseas. we need to encourage them to keep those factories and plants and american jobs here in america. we re one of six countries that adds an extra draconian tax on our companies just for having the plants for the workers here. bring the wealth back along with the jobs. finally make us more competitive. we just need an environment that unleashes prosperity. when governor pence in indiana now our vice president, cut taxes in his first 100 days across the board on individuals and employers, it spurred economic growth. it cuts the unemployment rate in almost in half and it created all these new manufacturing jobs in indiana. he also was able to work on other things like deals with japan, trade deals with japan because once you reduce people s tax burdens, you are respecting their ability to keep more of their own money but you are also rewarding employers, job creators, job holders and job seeker also all benefit from the trump tax vision. we re very excited about. this we hope senator joe donefully indiana, who refused to sign that letter, one of three democratic senators refusing to sign chuck schumer s letter about resisting. of course, resisting obstructionists. for a better deal. we hope he will come on board along with other democrats. this should be bipartisan. voters across this country, citizens deserve a tax cut in every state. steve: we will hear details wbr-id= wbr44456 /> later on officially. kellyanne, thank you. thank you for having me. brian: next stop puerto rico, geraldo rivera on the ground not only with his family but with everybody else trying to get that commonwealth on its feet. wit. one-a-day women s. bp engineered a fleet of 32 brand new ships with advanced technology, so we can make sure oil and gas get where they need to go safely. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. steve: we are back with a fox news alert. help is on the way to the puerto rico to help those displaced by hurricane maria. abby: only half of them have drinking water at the moment. 95% of the island is completely without power. brian: some say think will have to rebuild it from scratch. geraldo rivera is back from puerto rico. he has seen the best of times and worst of times. what is it like now, geraldo, any sign of improvement? you know, brian, not yet. i say that because the power grid is absolutely destroyed as you indicated. this storm, this series of storms, beginning with hurricane irma that knocked out 70% of the power grid and then the devastating blow from hurricane maria has left this island in the dark ages. nothing works without power. the water cannot be pumped. so people without water out any kind of power there is still a lingering air of devastation here. there is practical help beginning to trickle in and most dramatic of those assets is the fleet. is the expeditionary strike group based around the uss will kerr a subject. aircraft carrier that right now is steaming off the east end of puerto rico. i had a chance to fly out there as the admiral told m me. rear admiral jeff hughes and his fellow officers. we are here at the request of government of puerto rico and the government of the virgin islands working with the lead federal agency fema to help provide instantaneous response recovery and efforts by those displaced by terrible storms. the marines are fighting for us. we exist to fight the nation s wars. in the process of training for that, the skills test we need for this mission fit well. this is probably the most professionally rewarding part of what we do as a humanitarian part. of course we can deliver combat power. but, at the same time, all of those skills for combat power translate to we can do humanitarian assistance. the officers tell me that their marines will be accompanying them as they restore power to hospitals throughout this beleeringed, besieged battered commonwealth. on a personal note, we had a wonderful reunion late last night our aunt ellie 84-year-old aunt. my father s youngest sibling. we found her. she was alive and well. without power and without water, but she is healthy and we were delighted. back to you guys in new york. abby: how amazing for them to have seen your face, geraldo. heart warming. brian: of course the president will be there tuesday. congressman brian mast just sent a powerful message to all those anthem protesters with this powerful picture. is he between two american flag poles making a living with these two hands still believe in the good old fashione fashion american wy i moms take nyquil severe. stock up on nyquil severe, so you don t lose a moment to. .sick days. our guests can earn a free night when they book at choicehotels.com and stay with us just two times? fall time. badda book. badda boom. pumpkin spice cookie? i m good. book now at choicehotels.com devastating that s called the military ops. if we have to take it we will. jillian: the white house is taking quote all the proper measures to protect our allies including south korea and japan. the white house is planning to state the lowest cap in history. president trump expected to limit entry to just 45,000 next year. that s the lowest level of refugee admissions since the cap was introduced nearly four decades ago. president trump told the u.n. more could be done to help refugees in their home countries. those are your headlines. steve. steve: thank you very much, jillian. president trump continuing to sound off on the nfl and its protesting players. i was at walter reed hospital recently. and i saw so many great young people and they re missing legs and arms and so badly injured. and they were fighting four our country. they were fighting for our flag. they were fighting for our national anthem. and for people to disrespect that by kneeling during the playing of our national anthem i think is disgraceful. abby: one of those people he is talking about is our next guest served our great country and serves our country. he fired back at the nfl with this powerful facebook post he says i have taken a knee after jumping out of a hospital as we looked for the enemy, taken a knee in front of the soldiers cross as we mourned a fallen brother and taken a knee in church. if i player who has taken a knee to protest this great country during its anthem should already be gone. steve: joining us now is u.s. army veteran florida congressman brian mast joins us from our nation s capital. congressman, good morning to you. good morning to you. steve: tell us about the picture you posted on facebook along with the sentiment that any player who has taken a knee to protest this country during the anthem should already be gone. you know, i took a photo with my son. i try teach all of my children when you are doing the national anthem or the pledge you put your hand over your heart. they like to do what their dad does. i always render a salute. sometimes they do that as well. we try to instill that kind of patriotism into them. i think that s one of the biggest things that was stolen from all of us as americans as the nfl and these players go out there and they take a knee. they are stealing this moment of historic unity, of patriotism, of celebration where you give your buddy a high five and did you go out and there have a great day. they have taken that from us. that last moment of unity. and i think we have a right to be upset. abby: the president has been very strong on this. he continues to tweet out about about it obviously we knows where he stands. given your service and how you feel about patriotism in this country. do you think the president has handled this the right way. do you think he needs to continual this argument we should not be kneeling during the national anthem? i think he is spot on with it he made comments about walter reed. i have a lot of overlap with walter reed. the ideas that are represented here go well beyond my time and service members in walter reed today. i think about people that i hear about pows from our vietnam war. men like mike christian who literally risked his life just for the chance, just for the opportunity to show respect to our flag. he was a pow. he sewed a american flag on the inside of his shirt. when the guards found it they beat him an inch of his life for doing so. because is he such an american bad ass when they pulled him back in the cell he pulled out bamboo needled and started stitching the american flag. that s the importance of our pledge and anthem and the stars and stripes on our flag. not to be taken lightly. abby: it gives you chills. steve: it does. brian, you are somebody who just the act of standing means something special. you better believe it i don t take it for granted one instance. when i was injured i got about 67 plus friends that i see on prosthetics every single day. guys who lost two limbs, three limbs, four limbs, and, you know, i see pictures of friends of mine that have prosthetic arms still out there rendering a hand salute every single opportunity they get. this is very serious to us. they wear that flag on their soldier. a lot of people think it s facing backward. it s not. it s facing the correct direction it shows us charging forward in battle with that flag on our 140ur8d. that s what it means to us. something very deep and meaningful to anybody who served this country. steve: before did you go real quickly congressman mast, what do you say to people who have the counter point of view and they admire the players for standing and taking a stand not standing i mean. these players, they are not going to be thrown into a gulag. they are not going to be jaltd. they are not going to be arrested or put in handcuffs. that s the kind of great, amazing nation that we re. they are not going to suffer anything like that. but just as it s their right to go out there and protest, even if i consider it to be hugely distasteful, it s our right to not go out there and watch them play. it s the right of the owners to go out there and say, if that s the way that you re going to go out there and disrespect your country, you re not going to be a member of this team. abby: congressman. i will never forget that day with you on capitol hill. you are continuing to make a great service to this country. great to see you. thank you. steve: it is 7:30 here in new york city. abby: forget luther strange was the biggest loser in last night s runoff. i really mitch mcconnell and the establishment. michelle imagine malkin is coming up next. steve: remember the affluenza teenager too rich to know right from wrong. this is a new one. this teenager claims she is too smart for jail. and the judge said she s right. just like fire world just one day watch this madness steve: that is joel. brian: take a bow. steve: there you go. abby: thank you, joel. steve: you just saw the teleprompter it says bring in michelle malkin host of michelle malkin investigates.com. good morning, friends. brian: who won and who lost last night? the stats say judge moore was the overwhelming winner over luther strange very magnanimous in defeat. besides that who won and who lost? well, this is not a referendum on donald trump. what this was a referendum on was mitch mcconnell and the swamp king politics of what my colleague at conservative review rob enu calls failure theater. mcconnell and establishment dumped anywhere between 10 or $30 million into a race that is for a safe seat. what this really was about is people in alabama, the voters were disgusted with how luther strange was appointed to this interim appointment. and the shady apparent quid pro quo that took place there between the former governor robert bentley, who was kicked out of office essentially because of corruption, who handed this appointment to then attorney general luther strange in exchange to back off. people don t like that. this was about rejecting business as usual. and the fact is that mcconnell directed and misdirected all of these funds that should have gone to races where republicans could be challenging democrats. so, the misplaced priorities here. that s what this was a referendum on. abby: do you think that s just in the state of alabama or look bigger picture. we look at these races and say what does this say about the country as a whole? do you think this is a bigger message that a lot of american people are feeling right now, that they want these outsider candidates? because, if anything, he represented trump s brand more than luther strange did. he certainly did. and i m i hope and i m sure that president trump will see that. abby, i think you are right. there is a larger picture and a larger message here. and i would say that the message should be sent clearly and i hope it has to people like jeff flake, who is now contending with an outsider challenger. and other incumbent republicans who have forgotten what their mission, was. who have forgotten why they were sent to washington in the first place. it s not to get perpetually reelected. it s to represent a specific agenda that grassroots republicans, especially, have sent them to do. that is to limit the size of government, not to expand it endlessly. steve: surely. and keep in mind as well the fact that in alabama donald trump is still wildly popular. just not the guy he endorsed. meanwhile, let s talk about something else. it looks like, forget about politics. let s just talk about the polls. according to a number of polls out today, apparently a majority of americans, michelle, agree with president trump that people should stand during the national anthem. however, there were two democrats who yesterday on the house floor they said, you know what? it s a good time for us to kneel. watch this. you tell me which of those children s mothers are a son of a b. that is racism. you cannot deny it. you cannot run for it. and i kneel in honor of them. i join so many now in the nfl and elsewhere in taking takg a knee for america where we inspire to be. >be. steve: we understand the political dynamics of why they would kneel. they weren t kneeling during the pledge. that really is what has rankled the president. right. really, virtue signaling has now jumped the shark. and i worry about all of this empty gesture kneeling. there is so much of it i think we are going to have joint pain issues. i think there is going to be a run on glycosamine if we keep going. but, look, i think that s the problem here. and that s why i think essentially the nfl owners and the brass who supported this are going to be in trouble because it s become so confused. what are you protesting? it reminds me when i was in college, there were so many people that would say let me speak. let me speak. and you would say okay what do you want to say? they would say that s it. [laughter] i mean, right? the race baiting here is particularly toxic and poisoning and that s what was so offensive to so many people. whatever race, whatever color, whatever background. and you take a look at what s happened with these nfl protests. and you have to remember where it started. it started can collin kaepernick a guy who supports cheg, fidel castro and worst black militants who have basic bigotry against our best law enforcement officers in america. that s the problem. brian: here s the other problem. and i thought it was a bigger story last week on wednesday when we saw the 3rd graders take a knee before their pop warner football game. this is the problem. now it s spread everywhere. high school band in oakland decides. steve: the band. brian: the whole band and joined by a catcher from the oakland a s bruce maxwell. baseball players take a seat. this is the first time i have seen a band take a knee. yeah, it is crazy, brian. while playing the anthem i should say. abby: that s right. the same time as the anthem. all these people who say we need to fight the power. i say to them you are the power. get up off your knee, get up off your butts and do something about it if you see wrongs in this country. and the fact is there are good faith people across this country of whatever race working with each other to make a difference in this world. rather than take a knee. and engage in the worst kind of empty gesture politics. brian: when you go into the locker room in the nfl what i was always struck by most major league locker rooms. black and white players don t see color. they are teammates. if they could bring that message to schools that need it together. that would be something extremely proactive, our cameras would be there. abby: michelle, how do we heal? that s a great point brian is spot on there. how do we heal and come together and make it so all of us, blacks, whites, whatever your background is we are all standing for that flag or national anthem? well, i would put this back on the resistance and i will tell them to stop smearing people that disagree with them on how to organize society. what the best role of government is stomp calling us white supremacists. stop it. it is ridiculous. accept the results of the election and move on with yours lives. get some therapy, maybe. steve: all right. michelle malkin joining us from colorado. thank you very much. you bet. steve: i was talking to somebody who is supposed to sing national anthem major league sporting event in the next couple of days. they said if there is somebody protest, they might not actually sing out anthony. i will go ahead and start as soon as everybody stands. that could be a first. brian: that would be an interesting. abby: powerful moment. over to jillian for her headlines we are following. jillian: good morning you guys and to you at home as well. we told but the influenza teen let off on manslaughter charges after he said he was too rich to know better. similar case causing outrage in england. walking out of court after a judge called her too bright for prison. the oxford university student and aspiring surgeon walking free after stabbing boyfriend during a drug-fueled frenzy. o.j. simpson could walk out of prison. october 1st is the first possible day of parole after serving nine years behind bars in nevada. is he expected to start his new live in las vegas before eventually moving to florida. he was granted parole in july. he has been serving a 33 year sentence for kidnapping and armed robbery. even little princes get britain s prince george all smiles on first day as most kids are. after just a few weeks, it seems the royal is all ready for summer vacation. his dad prince william reportedly telling a fellow parent at morning dropoff that george did not want to go to class. according to a british player, william predicted this would start happening on the first day. one of those like they are just like us. who doesn t get tired of it. brian: he goes to one of those schools where you are not allowed to have best friends. if you get too close to somebody, they make you move your room or classroom. abby: too many germs? brian: exactly. i m breaking up with you jillian, goodbye. steve: president trump set to unveil big tax reform plan today. what s in it? he is. live with washington with details next. brian: attorney general jeff sessions joining us live. senator rand paul also will be here reflecting back on the healthcare repeal and replace that wasn t. alabama senate runoff winner judge roy moore live. that s a big show. i hope we are up for it. when it comes to heartburn trust the brand doctors trust for themselves. nexium 24hr is the number one choice of doctors and pharmacists for their own frequent heartburn. and all day all night protection. when it comes to frequent heartburn, trust nexium 24hr. we did get an early start! took the kids to soccer practice. you want me to jump that cactus? all right. aah! that lady s awesome. i don t see a possum! brian: 13 minutes before the top of the hour. president trump is headed to indiana to pitch the republicans new tax plan to the american people. officially unveiled around 11:00 a.m. today. abby: the plan has been in the works for months and expected to include some cuts. steve: we know what s in it but we can t tell you for three more hours. griff jenkins is live in washington. he does have some hints though. griff? good morning, guys. i don t know the details, actually. i got some hints. someone who does and has seen the president s speech that he will give a little later in indiana is counselor to the president kellyanne conway who on this program just a little earlier said one of the major goals is just to make it simpler. the vision is to make it simpler. americans spend over 6 billion-dollar man hours a year that would certainly use doing other things. just complying with the code. the code currently favors the wealth i can t understand privileged and connected who can hire attorneys and accountants help them navigate and take advantage of deductions and credits, many of which go away in the donald trump legislative plan. kellyanne also said the major goal is reducing the rates and some of what we expect slashing the corporate tax 20% from 35. cut pass through rate 25%. simplify it into three brackets. doubling the standard deduction for everyone. and possible other proposals eliminating the estate tax and alternative minute mum tax. expanding child care tax credits. accelerating business expensing of investments. reoperatrepatriation earnings. president speaking in indiana. the first test may be house freedom caucus, conservatives, to see whether or not they like it. that of course, is a big test. we learned from when they unveiled healthcare. guys? steve: absolutely right. griff, thank you very much. live report from our nation s capital. brian: oklahoma senator jim lankford says he is introducing a conservative fix for the dreamer program. he is going to give us some details next. take notes. [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney. for legalization dreamers, migration and deterring future illegal immigration. listen. in american law we don t hold children accountable for the actions of their parents. they are caught in between at this point. we don t want to promote illegal immigration. we don t want to say to adults if you bring a child with you when you cross the border illegally you get some sort of reward. but we do want to be able to speak out on how do we actually handle unresolved issue in america right now. brian: so, oklahoma senator james lankford and senator tillis have sponsored a piece of legislation called the succeed act. and he joins us right now to expand on it senator, it s really three phases. if i m here as a dreamer, what do i do if your act is part of law? first? well, you would have to have been already have been here by june of 2012. so let me begin with that we are not trying to incentivize future illegal immigration. we are trying to stop future illegal immigration. we take the dhadz are here that have been here very long time and been here as kids. we say if you are eligible for this program, then you have to apply background checks, pay taxes, have to prove you are in school or graduated from high school, that you have got a job or that you are joining the united states military. then you earn the ability to be able to have a five-year waiver. that allows to you work, go to school, join the military, travel, but you have to earn that spot for five years. if you have stay free of any kind of crime, you stay employed, you stay in school, then you can renew that at the end of five years. again, we have another check-in at that point. and then step-by-step we work through this process. at the end of that five-year time period then can you then apply for a green card. be able to stay in that status or seek naturalization. the earliest you could have naturalization was 15 years. have you got to earn your way to be able to get there that doesn t disadvantage anyone who is doing it the right way and be able to protect them as well. brian: takes 15 years to get here. once you are here you are accepted. you can get a job, go to school. you don t have to worry about being deported. all right? now when you say stopping chain migration, how do you stop that? if after 15 years i became a citizen and then people start coming over with me. how do you stop that from taking place? so, here s what we do. in the bill itself we outline that there is no special privileges that come to any family member during this 15-year time period that they go through. they do each check five years at a time. there is no special privileges. at the end of that you are right they are united states citizen if they choose to go to that path. many we think will stay in the green card path. if they want to be an american and committed to being an american many students are go through naturalization. at that point they could apply for parents. if their parents are already here. their parents have to return to home country for 10 years before they could apply. if they have been in this country more than a year they are ineligible to be able to have a quick citizenship connection. brian: those who say the dream act out there right now democrats want to pass. keep in mind you told me in the democrats couldn t pass when they had the majority the way it is. they have to make some adjustments. the president tweeted about your plan chain migration did k. not be allowed to have any immigration. county white house receptive to this because i noticed chuck and nancy were talking a dream deal last week. senator tillers and i put out a reasonable solution to how to solve this needs to be solved. more difficult every year. the president and i had a very long phone conversation about two weeks ago where i walked through the details of this bill. what we are proposing. he says that is exactly what i m looking for on it it s got to be partnered with larger border security, border control. interior enforcement, visa. we absolutely agree with that as well. brian: senator james lankford taking action when a lot of people are waiting for action. we will see how this goes over. thanks, senator. thank you. brian: meanwhile, straight ahead, listen to, this taliban launching a major rocket offensive overnight. their target defense secretary james mattis. jeff sessions will join us live. how does he feel about judge moore getting closer to replacing him in his senate seat? i want to ride it all night long you re going my way . . . . can i get some help. watch his head. i m so happy. whatever they went through, they went through together. welcome guys. life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. job holders, job creators and job-seekers will benefit. america was once the center academic freedom, a shelter for fragile egos. brian: should have the black eyed peace. abby: would they come? they were singing during the commercial break. brian: easy to get the lyrics down and sing a little. steve: let s sing a little. brian: get it started in here? steve: i never heard you actually sing. brian: what is so interesting, hour 15 minutes ago this young lady was singing. you mode the cold open. abby: i did. steve: nationwide is on your side. abby: i can t believe i made the cold. we re on the air. you have to remember that. steve: abby in for answer sy. thanks for joining us. abby: fox news alert. taliban claiming responsibility for a rocket attack targeting defense secretary james mattis shortly after landing in afghanistan overnight. brian: lucas tomlinson was able to break the story. he is live at the pentagon with brand new details. i imagine the secretary of defense wasn t rattled as you or i might be if that happened. reporter: that s right, brian. officials tell me the rocket attack on kabul s international airport was couple hours ago. after jim mattis arrived, 40, 45 rockets, rocket-propelled grenades rained down on airport. mattis left by helicopter for meeting with president ghani. short time ago president mattis spoke about attack. attack on international airport anywhere in the world is a criminal act by terrorists. it is designed to go after generally innocent people to make some sort of statement and, this is a classic definition of what the taliban are up to right now. we will suffocate any hope that al qaeda or isis, daesh, haqqani or the taliban have winning by killing. i want to reinforce to the taliban the only path to peace and political legitimacy for them is through a negotiated settlement. reporter: officials tell me there were no injuries to u.s. troops. one afghan civilian was killed according to a local report. the taliban are claiming credit for the attack. they said mattis was their target raising serious questions who tipped them off. the attack happened at:30 a.m. local time. mattis was in india the day before. this is secretary mattis first trip to afghanistan since president trump announced a new strategy for the 16-year-old war which includes sending 3,000 additional u.s. troops to join 11,000 on the ground. these u.s. troops will serve closer to the front lines with the ability to call in airstrikes. already u.s. jets are increasing number of bombs they re dropping on the taliban and isis full eats in the east. last month the more bombs were dropped more than anytime the last five years. general joe dunford says pakistan needs to stop harboring taliban and haqqani network and giving them sanctuary. one more thing, today marks the anniversary of the taliban taking kabul and later harboring usama bin laden. abby: thanks, lucas. when james mattis speaks you want to listen closely. brian: hopefully we get action in wbr id= wbr75040 /> afghanistan. i want to bring back attorney general jeff sessions. i almost said senator. that was your old gig. welcome, general. thank you, brian. brian: you were busy on college campuses. what is the department of justice doing about what many people feel is suffocating feeling on college campuses when it comes to free speech? we want to speak out first of all apcall on presidents, trustees, legislators, donors to make sure their colleges are not sufficient foe killing speech. no place in the country should we have more robust discussion than on college campuses. i truly believe in talking to a lot of young college graduates that we have drifted way too far in controlling speech. i wanted to make that point, number one. number two, we can intervene an will intervene in various lawsuits where we believe /b> students are being constricted in their right to speak out and express themselves. it is a civil right. the department of justice has a duty to defend people s civil rights. steve: mr. attorney general, as you know, you watch tv. it is not all sides that are suffocating being suffocated. it is just one side. look what happened out in california when people have tried to go out to speak at berkley. i think it was ben shapiro, a week or two ago was supposed to go out there. cost him $600,000 to protect the conservative guy simply exercising his freedom of speech. right. what we see often is the hecklers veto we call it. that means that a group of protesters raise a ruckus before a speaker comes. often the speech is either canceled or put in secondary location that is not effective. there is a bias, i think, personally, pretty clearly against conservative speech. ben shapiro, 33-year-old, brilliant, jewish harvard law graduate, they sent out a notice before he came to berkeley and said if it upsets you so badly we will give you counseling for the students who might be faint or something if he spoke there. this is, kind of ridiculous. we need robust, open, debate on college campuses. that is the ideal that has made our universities great. abby: what about the football field? you have said that the nfl players, they should stop kneeling for the national anthem. a lot of critics of yours this morning saying isn t that a symbol of free speech? look, i believe that every american should, as a matter of propriety and love of country, should not place their political views in a situation where you don t stand for the pledge or the national anthem. everybody should do that. the president is exactly right. to say no matter what you think of hillary clinton or president trump, you should stand when the national anthem is played. so he is correct to speak out against that i believe the players should stand. they can make their protests any other place. if the owners allow them, they can speak out i guess on the field. but as a matter of propriety of love of country, an decency, you should stand when the national anthem is played. abby: should there be a rule? we ve been debating that this morning. should it be a rule for nfl force the players to stand? new reuters poll said 58% of americans think every player should stand during the national anthem. every american should stand during the national anthem. do you agree with that. i think they should stand. it should be a formal rule. they should be able to say to the players, if you are on our field in our game, paid by us, you should respect the flag and the national anthem. brian: mr. attorney general, also we understand the house republicans yesterday are calling again for a special counsel from the department of justice to look into some disturbing revelations about james comey, hillary clinton and former attorney general lynch. will you answer that call? we will absolutely talk with them and respond to them in the appropriate way. i m not able to discuss investigations now but we will respond appropriately to the congress. brian: but you haven t decided if you will put a second special counselor out there right? because you have mueller working? i m not able to comment where we are on that, brian. steve: let s talk a little bit about this. we know the president of the united states made it clear he is giving congress six months to figure out what to do about the dreamers in this country. yesterday before a brooklyn federal judge, he took a shot at administration, said this ruling, they wanted to extend one of the deadlines, was heartless. nicholas garfous, said it would be useful to take some pressure off various parties, especially accomplished young people the president speaks of with such admiration. the thing about deadlines, they can be extented. he called the administration heartless. what is your message to that judge regarding the daca dreamers ? first i would say that the order that we have issued and president issued would delay for six months and give congress full time to direct and establish any kind of a policy they want to establish to deal with this situation. i think the judge has a right to adjudicate the law. i do not believe the judge has the right to set policy. i do not believe a judge is politician. he can write his congressman if he would like congress to do a little differently than currently being done. brian: mr. attorney general, i know you and president were going through a rough patch. he mentioned in alabama the other day, jeff sessions doing a great job. do you feel as though, have you guy heeled a rift that may or may not existed healed. i m totally supportive of the president. i love his policies. it s a great honor for me to help at the department of justice to advance constitutional legal policies in accord with his leadership. abby: attorney general, great to have wbr-id= wbr78908 /> you on this morning. thanks so much. thank you. steve: 8:11 right here in new york city right now. jillian has news about a son vicked killer. we ll get you caught up on the headlines of this hour. a convicted killer spared by the supreme court for now. justices granting a stay of execution for 59-year-old keith leroy tharpe. the attorneys appealed claiming that the georgia man is intellectually disabled and one of his jurors was racist. he is convicted of killing his sister-in-law 30 years ago. emanuel sampson admits to shooting, killing a woman and shooting seven others at a parish outside of nashville, tennessee. the 25-year-old immigrant from sudan is charged with criminal homicide. additional charges are expected. major milestone for one of president trump s biggest campaign promises. build that wall. build that wall. build that wall. jillian: crews officially breaking ground on prototypes for the wall near san diego. six months, companies will build a total of eight models. president trump will pick the winning design. those are the headlines on wednesday. send it back to you guys. steve: republicans scrapping their vote on health care after four u.s. senator, all republicans would not apparently support it. senator rand paul is one of the four. we will join brian. brian: buffalo bills taking a knee. one stadium worker taking a stand. quit his job after 30 years. you will hear from him coming up. abby: look in the green room. that is paula dean. cooking recipes from the brand new cookbook. brian: you better run down there. abby: i will run in my heels. brian: last-ditch effort to repeal and replace obamacare now scrapped as at least four gop senators including our next guest, refused to give their support. here to react, gop kentucky senator rand paul. senator hi, brian. brian: how do you feel about the latest attempt that failed on the gop side to repeal and replace? do you feel bad how this came out? yeah. i would we just would repeal it. i went to tea party rally, after tea party rally. no better opponent of obamacare than myself as a physician. we didn t promise to repale it, and shout, i didn t hear anybody shouting, keep obamacare and divvy it up to the states and mess with the formula so we take money from democrats to give it to republicans. we said we would repeal it. we didn t say repeal it and block grant it. this was not an effort. this is a fake repeal. we should talk about real repeal. obamacare will get worse. we will get other chances. we should do things good for the country and work with health care, i ve been working with the president for six months, assures me will happen next couple weeks. he assures me will legalize sale of cross state insurance through associations. which means any individual, millions of individual in our country will be able to buy insurance through a group, get cheaper prices, and get a better product. brian: can he do that on his own? yes. brian: i want to tell you what he wrote the other day. i know you saw this i know it is true. i know rand paul. i think he may find a way to get there for the good of the party. i think you both have said this you guys have become friends. the fact that you didn t get, if he feels let down, do you blame him? no. i think this originated more in the senate. the senate really, none of the senators really reached out to try to negotiate on this i did try to negotiate in good faith with the white house. what i told the white house there were good things this bill. i liked expansion of health savings accounts. i liked giving governors waivers. i liked eliminating mandates and block grants. if you give us a narrow focus, i m yes. i just, i couldn t in good conscience vote to just keep the obamacare taxes and keep the obamacare spending and reshuffle it to the states. brian: rand, do you understand how the american people are unbelievably frustrated right now? i m not just talking about republicans but, you guys got the mandate to get something done and you re not getting anything done? yeah. but we promised to repeal it. so the onus or blame, if you want to give blame to anyone to those who changed their mind. we all voted in 2015, every republican save one in the senate voted to repeal obamacare. we had that identical vote. seven people changed their votes. that, sr. with the pressure need to come. we need to keep our promise. repeal obamacare. if you want to talk about free market reforms, replacement can be free markets reform, legalizing choice i m all for it. first thing you do keep your promise. keep your pledge to voters, that is to repeal obamacare. brian: senator, i can t get into detail now. the president will speak about the long-awaited tax reform. what do you know about it? what bothers you most? what do you like the most? i m with the president it ought to be a significant tax cut. he has been talking about 15% corporate income tax. i m all for it. i think we should stick to our guns there. the swamp, establishment will try to get 25%. it will wind up 30% because they don t know anything about negotiating. let s do 15%. ireland is 12. canada is 17. most of europe is in the low 20s. be the shining city on the hill with the lowest tax rates. brian: right. be 15%. encourage businesses to stay here and grow. brian: looks like it is 20, president wants 15. word is he is not that excited what he got. we ll see what happens. senator rand paul thank you. thank you. brian: straight ahead he fled to communist hungary with his family. legally became immigrant to the united states. he became the giants all time leader scorer. good so be here. it is wonderful. steve: as we get started, we need to recognize the fact you pretty much are the guy who changed the way people kicked the ball in football. about a years. my brother charlie and i changed the game of kicking. we didn t have any soccer teams here in high school. so the next best thing was to kick american football soccer style. steve: rather than kick with front of your foot, with the instep. i should have patented it. everybody else doing it now. steve: seems like there are a lot of players these days doing it, we re talking about protesting. when you, pete gogolak, watch these young men on the field of football take a knee during the pledge, rather the anthem, what does that say to you? steve it really brothers me. i have to be here as old player, played for the new york giants, and i have to defend and support the guys who had courage to stand up for the national anthem. i can t believe this is happening, this divisive thing happening in this country. when i look at that flag, it, to me, america stand for courage and, and the people who gave their lives, the ultimate sacrifice, to, so we could be free and strong. in europe, in the jungles of vietnam, in the middle east, that is why, and that is why i look at the flag. steve: when you look at images of players kneeling during the anthem, you find that very upsetting? it really bothers me. if i would have done that back in 50s and 60 s, the people from the stands would come down on the field and probably beat me up. if i would have time to go to the locker room, my teammates would have taken care of me. it was unheard of. steve: one of the things you told me a moment ago during the commercial break the fact that the reason the flag is so important to you, it is the fabric of our nation. to you and your family it represents so much opportunity that you did not have in we never had that. escaped from communist europe, under a communist dictatorship. we had the good fortune to come to this country. i was 15. my brother charlie was 12, my mother was pregnant with the youngest brother john, escaped across the austrian-hungary border. we had good fortune to come here. this country embraced and opportunities that happened to us is absolutely wonderful. steve: sure. what is the message to the young men playing the game, taking a knee what they are doing? they feel they have got the right. they certainly started a national dialogue about it. i don t think they understand what the flag stands for. i do. i think young men, pittsburgh steelers in the tunnel who had steve: villanueva. three tours overseas, he understood what the flag stands for. when i was on the sidelines, yankee stadium, in front of 60,000 people and listened to national anthem, looking at the flag, i just said to myself, how lucky i am. goosebumps. pinched myself to play this wonderful game. pick up a check after the game which was not like but it was pretty substantial. so i say to these young guys, it is fine to protest, but please don t do it in the stadium with the flag and national anthem. they re making a lot of money. save the money, start a foundation and express their grievances, or support a community thing, so i, i hope that is direction they should go. we ll see what happens. pete gogolak. honor to have you. thank you. steve: thank you, sir. meanwhile it was supposed to be a place for protesters to escape chaos. instead a brawl erupts an empathy tent. not kidding. wait until you hear all this all played out. the heated alabama senate runoff coming to an end. conservative outsider, roy moore, beating the president s pick luther strange. well the judge is here for his first interview on the other side of a quicktime out. kevin, how s your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. i was born country, and that s what i always will be steve: early yesterday morning, that was judge roy moore riding up to vote in alabama on his horse sunday. abby: will he be on a horse this morning? joining us right now, roy moore, republican nominee for u.s. senate in alabama. elected last night as the nominee to go against the democrat in the freight state of alabama. how are you feeling this morning? i m great, thank you. abby: what do you think about your message? people talked about you re not president trump s candidate. you re very much his brand. you represented someone a washington outsider, not part of the swamp. what was it about your message you think really resonated with the people in alabama? i think the people of alabama know me, and they understand what i stand for. i certainly support president trump s agenda and that, yes, i m an outsider, not part of the establishment. brian: a lot of people equate what you re doing, what senator rand paul, has series of beliefs, how he will vote and hard to get to compromise. for example, if you were in the senate and that, the block grant program graham and cassidy put forward was out there, would senator moore have voted for it? well, i think i would have stood with rand paul. i think it is socialized medicine at best. it is not, transferring it to states, not getting you out of the business of socialized medicine which what we promised to repeal obamacare. we should repeal it. steve: let me ask you this, judge. how big of a factor was when the former governor, robert bentley, was being investigated, he was being investigated by the attorney general at that point. it was luther strange. and then the governor turned around and appointed luther strange to fill the open jeff sessions seat? i know in the final days of the campaign you were trying to suggest that there was something suspicious going on there. is that how you feel? well, anytime you re investigating someone and then take a favor there is reason to be questioned. for me it was a big factor to the people, i don t know you have to get to them. abby: what do you think about the president? he didn t throw his support behind you. you say you agree with much of what he stands for. he was on the ground in alabama campaigning hard for your opponent, luther strange. he tweeted out a number of times? what is your take on that, not being the president s guy when you feel like you sign up so closely with so many of the things he briefs? i don t think the president knew me. i think when he gets to know me understands that i do support a very conservative agenda in this country. i think he will back me. i receive ad call from him. that is what he said he would do. brian: go ahead. abby: what did he say to you? he said he would support me. i think he will. brian: yeah it was a shorter call. i m sure you have some in the future. you have one more lap, and democrats feel, many feel that you re vulnerable, that they might pour money in to take you on before the december election. what is your reaction. polls show otherwise. we ll show them when we get to the general election. very much prepared for it. brian: everything you accomplished, i know you have been in the headlines a lot, the ten commandments and everything. you advanced through the runoff this summer. now you win against luther strange, one lap to go. where does this rank? this is very big step. it has been very much opposed. we had 30 million plus dollars out of washington, d.c., trying to control the vote of the people, it didn t work. people of alabama can t be bought. they stood and voted, here we are today. brian: do you worry about working with mitch mcconnell, if he was that determined he didn t you didn t get this seat? as long as he stands for conservative agenda and what we promised people as republicans i will work with anyone. steve: next stop, democrat doug jones. the winner of last night s special election down in alabama. judge roy moore, thank you for joining us live. thank you very much. abby: let s go to jillian for other headlines. jillian: let s get you caught up on the news this morning. starting with this story, a bus driver narrowly missing plowing into a crowd of kids after getting slammed by a car. incredible video showing the transit bus jump ad curb, showing children running for their lives. the driver trying to regain control after the car crossed central lines. they re trying to determine if the car s driver was distracted. four people are under arrest after a fight breaks out at the uc berkeley empathy tent. [shouting] conservative students and leftist activists brawling at a campus rally. the event in response to cancellation of free speech week. berkeley s empathy tent was supposed to be a place for protesters to calm down in the middle of the chaos. apparently, as you can see, it didn t work. i threw my hat on the ground and walked out. a security guard who spent 30 years working for buffalo bills, quit in disgust over national anthem protests. earlier he explained his decision. i took the stand for me, because this is what i believe. my friend and family support me. my father s a korea war vet. he called me sunday night. he was in tears. he was so proud of me. jillian: he says he will never walk into new era stadium again or watch the nfl until the protests stop. a rogue pig brings rush-hour traffic to a standstill. police hot on his tail. this is near the east coast of virginia. the police catching the big guy who they say is probably someone s pet. not something you see every day. steve: what is it? jillian: that is a pig. a lot of people have pigs. steve: didn t george clooney have a potbelly for a while. brian: he got married and. steve: grow up in kansas we turned them into bacon. bacon! steve: week cooking with sausage with paula dean. janice dean outside of the our headquarters. first time in weeks we re not talking about a hurricane potentially could be so destructive. we have maria off the east coast. maria is out to sea. we like it that way. new york city, this is last day of summer. come over here. what is your name. i m haley. what is your name. ali. yours? paul. where are you from. minnesota. i love to say hi to my mom. is mom watching right now? she must be. how about yourself? i m from long island. is anybody watching? hi mom. what about yourself. i m from new jersey. who is watching. definitely my mom and grandma. thanks so much for watching fox & friends. i want to show you. maybe we re doing a little bit of weather. tropical storm maria not a hurricane it is moving out to sea. we love that. a little rough surf and rip currents. that is lee overthere. lee will not bother us either. rip currents will be exceptionally high across the east coast. guys, new friend. wave, say hi to abby, steve and brian. hi. steve: good mornings, folks. weren t awesome, my new friend? brian: meanwhile a fox news alert. growing crisis in puerto rico. get this the place is leveled. geraldo rivera getting a bird s-eye view on devastation across the island. he is looking at it. he joins us live from san juan next. steve: paula dean has new recipes, 150 in her new cookbook. she is coming up. it features 150 classic creations. here is share her favorite, my cousin, paula dean. steve: paula dean. janice dean. we re a different set of dogs. that is just what we say in the south. a different set of dogs. we this is the story i herd. dean. somebody changed their name to d -e-en. we re all related. we all love your cooking. i m going to be preparing gumbo with you all. steve: okay. that is really comfort food. wear big sweaters to hide the comfort food. yes, i love dressing for winter. this is already made. y all come on over here. i will show you how easy this is. steve: these are the ingredients you have chicken and sausage. this is the roo, which is flour and oil. you want to brown that to be like a copy penny. we browned off our chicken, our sausage. start dumping? you start dumping. steve: onions and celery. you like our new kitchen? you haven t been here yet. i know. when i came in this morning, i love it, it is not claustrophobic. do you know how good okra is for you? this, honey. steve: okra is like a super food? yes. steve: couple of bay leaves. recipe at foxandfriends.com. we cook it two or three hours. two or three hours? what do we do at that time? play cards. have a cocktail. take a nap. yes. throw the stock in, makes it more like the actual gumbo it will wind up? right. you have to have juice. what kind of stock? chicken stock? yes. you can use chicken or beef, whatever you have. steve: you have another 150 recipes with the cookbook. how do you come up with 150 more recipes you like? i have a great team that works with me. believe it or not there are 30 brand new recipes. it is out right now. steve: through the magic of he will television, this is ready to be served. want y all to taste some. get you some rice. y all, that is a apple look at that. that is apple cake with praline sauce that will knock you into next week. apples make it so moist. we have our corn fritters. have i told you lately, that i love you paula deen? 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detail she actually had a plan on toughening this body that would prove these kinds of comforter hooked on my controversial deals. she is very knowledgeable on the subject she s a hawk on this issue. for her to pretend like i don t know what was going on stretches credulity and that s one of the reasons we need to have an investigation and really to this point, we have not had a congressional hearing on this. we have not had a grand jury as far as we know. it s just shocking to me that there has been no investigation on this whatsoever. tucker: just to be clear, the dots we are connecting are not very far apart. the chairman of this uranium country is also on the board of the clinton foundation and the coastline of the clintons. the podesta group lobbied on behalf of this company. am i getting these facts wrong? you are exactly right. here s the bottom line. as this deal was coming for approval in 2010 the clinton foundation received from nine shareholders in this uranium company that was sold to the russians. none of them all of a sudden decided they were going to donate large amounts of money to the clinton foundation, more than 145 million. by the way, a lot of those donations were never declared publicly by the clintons, they were hidden. it stinks on so many levels. here s the other important national security implications. this deal was predicated on the fact that when the russians got control of this uranium it would not be exported out of the united states, that was part of the agreement. the new york times has now reported that that s not true. yellowcake from these uranium mines are being exported out of the united states and we don t even really know where they are going. that and of itself demands investigation. tucker: about 20% of it they ve reported has gone to an unknown destination. peter schweitzer, the person who broke the story in the beginning it has been on it ever since. thank you. thanks, tucker. tucker: questions of bribery aside, why exactly did the obama administration allow a foreign rival, russia, to control 20% of american uranium reserves? soderberg was in the to the united nation s and deputy national security advisor under president clinton and she joins us. thanks for coming on. my presser. tucker: leaving aside the questions of the doj investigation, why in the world would hillary clinton state department and the obama administration sign off on a deal that allows a rival power to control 20% of our uranium reserves? these business deals are ones that had review of nine different agencies and they agreed that since it was going to stay in the country that it would be an acceptable way to keep our uranium safe here and under appropriate control. i think the reporter that has been gone and yellowcake has been really disproven. i really think you are digging at the bottom of the barrel here. tucker: let me stop you there. you think it was a good idea for the obama administration to give russia our primary adversary in the world, according to the democrats, control of parnate, 20% of our uranium? why is that a good idea? i m sincere. why is that a good idea? i m not familiar with the details of this particular uranium deal but we have traded in uranium with appropriate controls throughout the last 40 years, bipartisan, both republican and democrat governments feel that we can keep the appropriate control. the bigger issue here is this whole issue is fake news in terms of an investigation. it s been shut all president trump has to do is ask his current deputy attorney general and deputy head of the fbi, who looked at this and closed it in 2015. this is fake news trying to divert tucker: i m not engaging in you may have that view but i m not engaging in that. i m asking about the policies. why are we talking what happened wow something that happened almost ten years ago? tucker: hold on. the russians are invading in our own democracy, we should be talking with that. tucker: if we are as concerned about russia as you say we should be, as you just said we are to be, then why wouldn t we be concerned about the fact that according to the nuclear regulatory commission reported in the new york times, some large percentage of this uranium in the form of yellowcake has been exported to unknown countries? what countries do think those are? switzerland? i have no idea. tucker: hold on. are not a government right now. tucker: you have no problem hold on. why are you concerned about that? look, what i m more concerned about right now, i m concerned about any breach of our national security. if there s a problem here we need to investigate it and look at that and that s what both residents at democrats and republicans do. what i m more concerned about is the invasion of our democracy by that very power you are trying to go back ten years ago. what did the russians do in our investigation right now and why are the doj why are the current what i want to know and what your show should be talking about is why are the republicans in this congress trying to cut off the investigation of russia s role in our democracy? that s real news. tucker: you know what, i will grant you that point. i don t care. i want to talk about the fact that uranium is being mined in the american west and is controlled by the russian government, the very one that you say poses a threat to our democracy. why shouldn t every american sat bolt upright and safe, what? how the heck did they could control that? it s not ten years ago, it s happening right now. the uranium is under very tight control, security. my understanding is they own some they own some of the company that owns it. if it s a problem that we need to have the president look into that. he s in charge right now and president trump should look into it. tucker: would you upside off an ideal? knowing what you know about russia, you don t think this is insane? the country six or description, control of our uranium supply? this was a deal that almost ten years ago. 2010. it s almost 2018. look, no. tucker: that s not speculation, that s a fact. all of us take very seriously the control of uranium and plutonium, our stockpiles. absolutely i do. tucker: maria blowing past my questions, which are real? i ve said several times these types of deals, i m not familiar with this particular one, very, very tight control, reviewed by nine agencies, all of whom signed off. tucker: we don t know where the yellowcake is going. if that s been reported by the new york times, it s not something i m making up in the right land. why are you upset about it? i haven t seen that report and from what i know they have very tight controls on them. if there s a problem than the trump administration needs to immediately look at it. tucker: i agree. what i m concerned about is congress doing russia s bidding for trying to stop the investigation of russia s collusion in our election. why are they we have an independent counsel investigation. congress are trying to it why the republicans in congress trying to do russia s bidding and stop the investigation tucker: i m a little upset you are going to political bumper stickers. you are trying to dig back in history to deflect from what s going on in today s what s happening right now tucker: why am i the policy person in this conversation? as i ve said, we need to address the security of the deal that was all most ten years old and we will. the president of the united states has the power to do that. what i m concerned about is what s happening today and russia s interference in our election. tucker: this is happening today, they have control right now. why is the republican congress trying to cut that tucker: whatever, they have no control, it s an independent counsel investigation, they can t stop it. they are trying to cut the funding off. tucker: i m worried about the dissemination of yellowcake, i will let our viewers to side. the american people need to know what happened in our election and that s the bottom line. tucker: all right, ambassador, thanks for joining us, appreciate it. the hollywood backlash against sexual harassment has named mike named inuit. this time amazon. details on that next. for the future. who s he? he s the green money you can spend now. what s up? gonna pay some bills, maybe buy a new tennis racket. he s got a killer backhand. when it s time to get organized for retirement, it s time to get voya. whstuff happens. old shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. when you re clocking out. sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. there. i can also help with this. does your bed do that? oh. i don t actually talk. though i m smart enough to. i m the new sleep number 360 smart bed. let s meet at a sleep number store. tucker: : kaepernick became an icon on the left were voicing his political views and now, irony of ironies, he s going after the nfl owners for expressing their own political views. kaepernick started the trend of kneeling for the anthem. he hasn t been signed by a team in the nfl this year. he says that s because the owners, the team owners, have colluded to keep them blackballed from the league. he is now suing the nfl. does he have a case? saturdays 9:00 p.m. eastern, you already watch it but you should keep doing so. judge, this opens up a whole new list of possibilities. i would love to be in the nfl. can i sue because they haven t hired me? calling capper nick has a right to his opinion, but he doesn t have the right to be in the nfl. this guy is a crybaby, he s claiming he s a victim, he s claiming that this collusion in the nfl. think about this, tucker. what he has to prove in this collective bargaining claim of collusion and conspiracy is that several teams in the nfl, or the nfl officials, and at least one team got together and said we will prevent this great football quarterback from being in the nfl because of his political views. i got news for you: they can keep you out of the nfl for whatever reason they want. they can decide they don t like you and keep you out of the nfl. you don t have a right to be in the nfl. but he s got to prove by a clear preponderance of the evidence, with evidence, that they colluded. what evidence does he have a collusion? right now he s saying that there was a political atmosphere that the president was partisan in this. : kaepernick needs to understand he took a knee and, what was it, august of 2016, when the president had not even mentioned this and he became a free agent in march of this year. the president didn t talk about any of this until last month. he saying i m a victim of the president and all this political partisanship, the president didn t open his mouth until a month ago. tucker: the claim itself is just ludicrous on common sense grounds. character is clearly not an important criteria in the nfl, they hire horrible people all the time. if it s a pure meritocracy. they hire the best football players. they have a long history of that, right? if you look at the rap sheets of any of these? the proportion of the guys who have been arrested. i m not even going to go into it, but make no mistake, the domestic violence, some of the claims that we fight about, manslaughter, et cetera. what you ve got with: kaepernick is a guy who, sure, he helped the 49ers get to the super bowl, but he was benched 2015 for the whole year. we don t say it because you decide you want to be a free agent and get out of your contract, now all of a sudden you have more rights than everybody else. you don t, and i don t care who your lawyer is, i don t care this seems to me to be a leftist agenda to bring donald trump into the issue, the president, everything is his fault, no, it isn t and you are not a victim. you are just not as good as you used to be. tucker: i like the argument. i ve got political views are no nfl contract, i wonder if there was collusion. we ve got another studio had brought down by sexual harassment allegations. roy price. a producer for the show the man of the high castle, one of the most popular shows on amazon says that he aggressively propositioned her for sex. according to a hollywood reporter, this looks something like, a little bit like the harvey weinstein story. what does it add up to? if this evidence that weinstein is not alone? i think that it is more evidence that there is a culture in hollywood that allows men in positions of power to try to seduce, sexually harassed, sexually abuse young women that this casting couch, a.k.a. casting bed, and something that is so much a part of business that they don t even talk about it. and i think that look, amazon is huge. you and i both know it s huge. this guy is not only accused of sexual harassment, rose mcgowan said i was raped by harvey weinstein. under federal law you are supposed to look into those allegations. in addition to that, he then got rid of i believe it was there was some kind of project being developed by someone who had made a claim of sexual harassment and he got rid of it. this guy, price, was a very tight with weinstein. what we need now, tucker look, i was a prosecutor for a long time. i did sex crimes. we need to get to the bottom of this culture in hollywood. we need to have a liaison with the national va association, talk to women in new york, in l.a., wherever they are doing movies, motion pictures, get the motion picture association to find it if they really mean business, because this is going not just across the country, but across the globe in terms of the victimization of women who are young, vulnerable and want a career. tucker: i don t understand this. harvey weinstein was a big donor to planned parenthood, obviously he supports women. that s the one thing we know about hollywood, it s an empowering place. they voted overwhelmingly for hillary clinton, how could they not be on the side of women? this is part of the hollywood hypocrisy where do as i say, not what i do. by the way, harvey weinstein s support of women projects and programs is nothing more than a prophylactic, so to speak, for his attempt to do what he s got to do and then say i m innocent, i love women. i love women, look at all of these issues. tucker: i hired lisa bloom, i m a good person! i thought my indulgences. it s like the medieval church. that s classic hollywood and the fact that so many strong women, tucker, didn t come out and say anything, they just went along with it, tells me we need an outside, independent agency to oversee what s going on in hollywood. tucker: [laughs] i m sorry to laugh, the ironies are so deep. it s great to see you. judge jeanine pirro. every weekend. thank you. he probably thought the threat of president hillary clinton was dead and buried, but like a zombie, it rises once again. professor lauren of harvard has a plan to reverse the election 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refuses to die. she going to run, please run again. there were a lot of reasons she didn t when my, including the fact that she was not what she did. tucker: our next guest says hillary clinton may not even have to run again, she may be appointed president. harvard professor lawrence lessig recently wrote a piece explaining that she can still become president, hillary can, without waiting for 2020. what exactly is this plan? professor lawrence lessig joins us now. next are coming on. thanks for having me. tucker: i want to take this seriously because you are a harvard professor, you are smart. i know you are a sincere person. it doesn t seem like a very democratic plan, but how exactly does hillary clinton having lost, become the president? i didn t like a piece predicting anything. i wrote a piece in response to a question. the question i got was, what happened if it is shown that there was a conspiracy to steal the election? what i said was i m not even sure i think i believe that. there s no evidence evidence of that, not enough to actually speculate about it in public, but if that is true, if it is shown than what should happen? and i think the fundamental point that if you steal the election, you have to give it back, is something we all should be able to agree upon. i don t know why there should be much argument about that. all i was trying to explain is one of the steps that would actually happen if this was the first thing that happen? number one, if it is shown without doubt that there was a conspiracy to steal, which is different from lots of other reasons you might impeach a president. this is a very particular one, the president should resign. if the president to resign, so too share the vice president resigned, and if that happens that under the presidential succession statute, paul ryan becomes president. that s where the hard question comes. should ryan remain president as somebody who has inherited because of this theft, or should he do what i think is actually the moral thing to do, the right thing to do, which is to correct for the theft. he could correct the theft very easily under the 25th amendment by nominating a democrat, hillary clinton, to be his vice president and then step aside. it s a speculation based on the question that was presented to me hundreds not hundreds of times, i m a law professor, tens of times. tucker: a couple of things, when you say theft, do you mean literally theft? if it could be shown that the kremlin somehow controlled the voting machines? or is it theft in the sense in which it s used in washington now, that somehow sophisticated russian propaganda convinced a lot of right-wing mouth breathers and a couple of key states to vote against their own interests and selecting from? which of those? propaganda? its actual theft. it s not just actual theft. if you show that the russians actually controlled the voting booths and flipped the election, but trumpet nothing to do with it, in the sense that you can t show it was a conspiracy, i don t think there s anything that hangs on from. the only thing i was talking about was the extreme case, the unthinkable case where there is an agreement, a conspiracy working together between a foreign government and a campaign to bring about the actual changing of votes, or something at that level, to lead to the flipping of the election. that s the hypothetical i was trying to address. tucker: that is so hypothetical. by the way, just for the record, if that was ever shown, i would be leading the charge against anyone who would do something that s totally immoral and that would be hope s aversion. of course, that s why i m kind of surprised by the outrage. tucker: here s the thing, that is so unlikely that it almost seemed like you were writing a piece of pornography were desperate for trump to not be president. saying this could actually happen, you know what i mean? you are rating escapist literature for unhappy lefties kind of thing. i m not sure that s what i wrote. the first, the second paragraph of what i wrote, i don t know that i believe it, i certainly haven t seen clear evidence that i don t think is appropriate to speculate about whether there is clear evidence of it. but i get emails from people asking what if there was such a conspiracy? i set it up to say i m not saying this is true, i m just trying a lot of people say can we have a new election, or can the supreme court forced the electoral college to vote again? what i m trying to say is none of those things are possible under our constitution. you can t have a new election, you can t have a new electoral college vote, all of that is fixed, there s no way to go back. but there is this path given the way the 25th amendment works that it could actually work. again, not a prediction, not a plan. tucker: i get it, it s a little like saying i m not seeing the israelis are behind 9/11, but just theoretically, would it be better to say using the immoral authority you have is a tenure more professor, that s not true. there s literally zero evidence that the russians got into our voting machines at any level, we look into this, it s not true and move on, wouldn t it be better to do that? as soon as the actual ongoing investigation of what happened is finished then yes, i think exactly what you re saying is true. but when i started the piece by saying is that there s this chatter that is coming up. it could just be conspiracy theorists, i don t know, i don t really care. again, i wasn t making a press release and coming out and trying to do some big event drawing attention to this, i was just writing a blog post in response to a question. tucker: people pay attention you are not just writing a blog post. people pay attention to what you say because you are smart and you have this position of authority. let me ask you this thing. can you understand the perspective of the term voter looking on at this saying i voted for the car, i knew his boss, but i did it because i felt like he was better than the option and ever since i voted for him i ve been attacked as a moral by the elites in washington, boston, new york and los angeles calling me immoral and trying to take the election are way for me and i m offended by that? can you see that perspective? oh, my gosh, of course i can. it s not just seeing the perspective i completely understand. there s a segment of the people who voted for donald trump who were so deeply frustrated with what they perceived to be the deeply corrupted way that washington works and i m one of those people that has been on that charge. i completely get it. i m the first person to say i wish that all of these questions would be bracketed and put to one side, or answered at least. in the context of this ongoing investigation i don t think it s to be placed on me that i m answering a question about something that came out of the investigation. all i m saying is here s what could happen if something came out of the investigation. tucker: unlikely to happen. as a nonlaw professor. i will support you on that, it s unlikely to happen. tucker: thank you. lawrence lessig. up next, you pay for illegal immigrants to go to school, college, get food stamps, housing vouchers at a whole lot more. are you ready to start paying for their abortions? that s on the table somehow all of a sudden. we will discuss, next. i was a good soldier. we look after each other. thank you for your service. rated r. don t put the blame on me we see their hunger. their courage. we see their dreams. we see the things that built our nation. and we wonder, what would happen if everyone had equal access to education? what would they discover? what new worlds would they build? that s why we built a university for everyone. southern new hampshire university. our recent online sales success seems a little. strange?nk na. ever since we switched to fedex ground business has been great. they re affordable and fast. maybe too 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earth has the right to enter this country are not. the avant-garde liberals are finding a new rate for illegal aliens, the right to have an abortion at taxpayer expense. kristin hawkins is president of her students for life for america. just wrote a piece about this, she joins us for night stomach tonight. thanks for coming on. thanks for coming on. tucker: you fill in the blanks, liberals are arguing that u.s. taxpayers somehow have an obligation to fund abortion for illegal aliens? true? that s right. at this young girl entered our country illegally, she s from central america. she informed the government once she was apprehended that she was pregnant and that she wanted to have an abortion. not surprisingly, the aclu seized this opportunity, along with their abortion allies to mandate that taxpayers facilitate our abortion and this is just a shocking case because it shows you just how far the aclu, their friends at planned parenthood and the abortion industry want to take their extremist abortion agenda. they want to use this girl, and what they re trying to do is use or a sort of a way to internationalize roe vs. wade. declaring that she has a constitutional right to have a taxpayer-funded abortion. the last time i checked the constitution only applies to americans. tucker: i don t think it directly addresses whether or not we have an obligation to pay for the abortions of illegal aliens. it almost seems like the left loves abortion, they think it s the key to freedom. it almost seems like it s not really all about the abortion, if the aclu and affiliated group seeing how high they can raise the middle finger in the face of middle america and say we hate you, we despise your values and we will do exactly what we want to make you pay for it whether you like it or not. that s right. this is something that goes against the majority of americans. majority of americans are against taxpayer-funded abortions and now they are just doing this again. they actually try to use this gross case to add onto their additional additional losses that they are already trying to stop catholic charities, one of the largest charities in our country from receiving federal grants of up to help refugees and immigrants. this is their antilife, their anti-faith agenda coming out in full force and that s what we re seeing. that s why really it so important that we have president trump there in d.c. we have a pro-life administration, a pro-life hhs, because they are the ones trying to protect this young girl from the aclu, from planned parenthood, who are simply using her. tucker: i am pro-life, but you wouldn t have to be in order to find this appalling, the idea if some federal judge decides in fact the constitution has been hiding this obligation for 225 years, would this mean that u.s. taxpayers have an obligation to fund the abortion of anybody from around the world that comes here? that s right. this is setting up dangerous precedent. what this will do is tell any young, scarecrow in central america, or anywhere else in the world, come to the united states illegally or legally and we will find a taxpayer-funded abortion for you. this is dangerous stuff, especially when you consider this young girl coming from central america, who made that dangerous, life-threatening journey to cross our borders and this is the signal we will be sending out across the world. tucker: this is what trump is going to win back again no matter how flawed he is, normal people look at the alternative and say you scare me because you are nuts, actually. you are hateful. they are extremists. tucker: s that s for sure. thank you for joining us. thanks for having me. tucker: that is appearing las vegas guard his back, jesus compost appeared on the ellen to generous show today, but the res about las vegas remain unanswered. you didn t think it was possible, but it has, we will fill you in after the break. shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. stare with me into the abyss ( ) last thursday, but he abruptly back out without telling anybody and disappeared. today he resurfaced, he made an appearance on the ellen degenerate show. here s part of it. they go you just want this to be over so you re talking about it now and then you re not going to talk about it again, and i don t blame you, because why relive this over and over again. it s helpful for people to understand what a hero you are, because you being shot in the leg saved so many people s lives, so we just want to celebrate you, that s why you re here today. we want to thank you for what you ve done. tucker: how exactly does that work? is that really an interview? it turns out it could actually be a bizarre case of cross marketing by mgm resorts, that owns mandalay bay. it sponsors the ellen degenerate show and features ellen theme slot machines and many casinos, including mandalay bay. maybe that s why he did the interview. meanwhile, mgm reached out to us after reports came out suggesting that jesus compost was using someone else s social security number. mgm company claims they verified his employment eligibility back in 2015 and it was a social security card. mark stein is an author and columnist and he joins us tonight. look, i m not a conspiracy not at all and i m desperately hoping the authorities will prevent me from forming my own conspiracies to explain what has become excrete singly and exportable, but it looks like that interview was managed by md that s what it but i m on ellen show. does that give you confidence that the public is learning anything meaningful about the story? no, and i m not a conspiracy not either, but you are entitled to be one on this, tucker, because whether by intention or design, nothing is proceeding normally in this case. up to the absurdity where someone says i m only going to give one interview and i m going to give it to ellen to generous. tucker: [laughs] i ve got nothing against i ve got nothing against ellen. tucker: i don t either! this seems very weird choice and as you say she manages to say you are a true hero because by getting shot in the leg you saved so many lives. that s not what happened. that was the old narrative. tucker: exactly. at the old narrative was that he interrupted the gunfire, took a shot in the leg and brought the massacre to a halt. then the sheriff said, sorry, i got things the wrong way around, actually mr. compost got there before the mass shooting started and then apparently the shooter between shooting mr. compost in the lake, there was then a six minute delay before he started massacring everybody, during which time he had a nice cup of tea, a call down to room service or whatever he did and then the hotel said that s not what happened, there s a third timeline and then everybody does the obvious and says why don t we ask mr. compost what happened and then they say suddenly, he has disappeared, he s gone now. he s off the scene, no one has seen him for a week. then he comes back and he s on the ellen to generous show. that s how conspiracy theories start and everybody is entitled to take a flyer on whatever conspiracy theory they want in this case because were, for whatever reason, mandalay bay and the ellen degenerate show have muddied the waters to total impenetrable lady now. tucker: i think it so nicely put because it s clear, and by the way, simply because mgm managed this interview, doesn t mean that it s an accurate, i m not attacking mgm. but i also think it was managed, clearly it was managed. so they are under a ton of legal pressure because the usual ambulance chasers are circling the hotel looking for payouts and so that suggests that he s under a lot of pressure to give a specific story line that may not be that useful in understanding what happened. there s other issues here, talker. las vegas is one of the most surveilled cities on earth, because all these big casinos resort owners want to know what people are doing in the building from every conceivable angle. even before we got the big post-9/11 security, in vegas they had cameras everywhere linked to some back office where everybody is looking at what you re doing. and what s interesting to me is that there are some s that goes on in london or paris or brussels or wherever, the brussels airport farming is a very good example. they pulled some stunned at the brussels airport, kill a bunch of people. within 24 hours you ve got the closed-circuit television picture showing the killer moving through the airport concourse. here, mandalay bay has not released any footage, any shots of the sky, the couple of pictures, event of the hotel room door are actually extremely limited. 200 rounds did indeed come through the store, that must be the best build hotel room door in the history of hotel rooms. tucker: exactly right. so, i might be wrong, there might be an explanation for tha that. he might not have been a very good shot so he was actually firing through the cheap sheet rock to the side of the door. i don t know. the fact is that mandalay bay has not done what brussels airport did in that terrorist attack. tucker: totally right. nobody knows what this guy was doing. tucker: there s dishonesty in her somewhere. quickly, just to prove i m not a conspiracy not, want to ask about the jfk assassination. 54 years ago next month, a long time ago. we are about to get as released by law, the final tranche of papers from the investigation into the murder. the cia is apparently arguing those papers should be held for another 25 years, which would bring the total up to almost 80 years that they are under wrap from public view. what could be the justification for that? again, you are entitled to be a conspiracy not on this one too, and it makes you wonder when donald trump in one of his more inventive moves placed ted cruz his father on the grassy knoll that day in the late stages of the presidential primary campaign. makes you wonder, it seemed a little crazy at the time and i you look at the facts. we all know ted cruz was born in alberta, was his father operating on the instructions of the canadian government? we have some canadian deep sleeper operation going on here. tucker: one of my personal favorite moments. we are out of time unfortunately. more conspiracies. that was great. thanks a lot, talker. tucker: up we will wrap up with the discourse on fitness from cnn s poet laureate chris cuomo. your body was made for better things than rheumatiod arthritis. before you and your rheumatologist move to another treatment, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. it can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don 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