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i had actually read something a little while ago. very brief about that episode. and loved it. anyway people should check it out. >> thank you very much first of all. very kind of you to say. i should credit you actually because it was an interview with a journalist and historian on your podcast which in part got isaac and i really interested in that topic. it is what put it on the table for us to consider as one of our episodes. >> i love that. >> so you were part of the inspiration for doing that whole story. >> great. thank you, rachel. >> thanks, chris. much appreciate it. thanks...

>> the united states of america, versus donald j trump. >> we have one set of laws in this country. and they apply to everyone. >>, tonight the stunning 49-page indictment. 37 criminal counts, secret national security documents, strewn around his country club, on stage in a ballroom, on the floor in the bathroom. a conspiracy to hide them from the feds, and the lies that he told to cover it up. rachel maddow, lawrence o'donnell, aubry melbourne, joy, read -- are here for msnbc's special coverage of the second indictment of donald trump. good evening from new york. welcome back to our...

the interview goes on. and as you might imagine, while nem and i strongly disagree on pretty much everything, but to the governor's credit, he did sit a down for an entire hour. he answered most of our questions. and by the way, that was something that the president of the united states, joe biden, is not even remotely capable of doin g. so without further ado, here is part one of my interview with california's democratic governor, gavin newsom govern. . >> all right. so i write you this pick on a lot of pick up. aot opicki'm sure. you saw as well. and i'm like, okay, i want to day, ...

day that will go down in american history as unimaginable, inconceivable, unthinkable, and also equally, hey, what took you so long? i am rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters with joy reid, chris hayes, ari melber. we are gonna be joining you with special coverage by lawrence or diana o'donnell, stephanie ruhle, alex wagner, jen psaki, plus all the legal experts and reporters we've come to depend on so much for our coverage of this still unfolding fairly epic story. by now we all know the basics of what is going on. what's an indictment? well, that's the prosecution laying out it...

break it down. as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night. good evening once again i'm stephanie ruhle. donald j trump is now hours away from his first court appearance as a federal criminal defendant. earlier today he traveled from new jersey to south florida ahead of his scheduled arraignment tomorrow on charges of mishandling classified documents and blocking efforts to get them back. the government's hearing 49 -page indictment lays out more than three dozen counts against the former president including what prosecutors say is evidence of where trump kept america's most ...