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Withes. you spent the early part of your clear as a tax litigator. does that number, $163 billion, surprise you? how do wealthy folks avoid paying that much? >> well, thank you for having me. it did surprise me when i saw that big number but when we talk about how people pay their taxes it makes sense. because people who are very wealthy don't have their taxes taken out of their paycheck. they have to self report on their assets. they have to self report on real estate income. they have to self report on what their sole proprietorships are doing. when you have to self report, there is definite...

Majority out there than he will get because the trump, the maga folks are very loud and have an echo chamber of sort of sympathetic media at their disposal. but i think they do represent a segment of the country, but a small segment. and this is about putting together a large e broader majority. >> jennifer ruben, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. >> my lest pleasure. a new report says america's richest collectively evade paying $163 billion in federal taxes each year. well, president biden is trying to get them to pay up, but republicans don't seem to want to help. we have got tha...

Causing such division. now, as for what is happening here on the ground, as for governor de santis's plan, on how he plans to fight these nationwide vaccine mandates, that is still unclear at this point. so we really don't know what his next move is. but as for the mask mandates in schools, those remain optional at this point at least in the state of florida until further notice. joe. >> debates over mandates continuing in and out of court. stephanie, thank you so much. turning now to a new report this week from the treasury department. this highlighted by "new york times." the report says t...

>> yeah. >> what is her name? >> nabila. >> nabila. >> my wife, she's still in afghanistan. because she has an afghani passport. they not allow them to come. >> how do you feel now that your family is split up? when will you see your wife again? >> well, there is no choice. no choice. what are we going to do? >> allison, he hopes his family will be reunited one day in canada. but right now, he doesn't know how, and he doesn't know when. allison? >> raf, thanks. and thanks to all of you for watching, i'm allison morris in for alex witt. joe fryer takes over in just a moment. he will be lookin...

Right there, senator manchin, anyone that's worried about spending, we can generate revenue so it isn't about 3.5 trillion in spending. we will generate revenue to pay for things. i have the will to do it. the question is does senator manchin or is he more concerned about corporate donors, including the oil and gas industry, big pharmaceutical industry and others getting away with paying nothing under the current tax system. >> how about tax enforcement? it was dropped from the bipartisan bill, but treasury department just said that the top 1% are evading, not talking about adding new laws, ev...