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New video shows them inside the palace. this all happened despite the united states pouring $83 billion into training and equipping afghan forces. this is what that investment was men to prevent. how did we get here? we're back matt zell we are the afghan security forces and kevin barron, and joining our panel is kristen, a u.s. earl veteran and board member of iraq and afghanistan veterans of manager. good to have you with us. let me start back up with you and something that president george w. bush said back in 2001. he said, quote, ultimately, one of the best weapons, one of the truest weap...

Have been done all alodge. so in so many ways this is completely on president biden. and to his credit, the has been owning it. he has not backed away from the decision he's made. but as we can see, the catastrophic results are sort of on display right now. a big part of that is, you know, the united states spent $83 billion just on training, advising and equipping, building up the afghan military, war planes on sending advisers to -- not show them how to fight but instill in them the whole command, control structure and the allegiance to the command, control structure that governs the america...

Anywhere. they didn't believe in government themselves. you're writing not only is what andrea said coming to pass but you wrote an article saying the afghan military does not believe itself in and most americans have lost faith in this war. the afghan military and the taliban, as andrea said, being recognized or having meetings in china and in the presidential palace right now and they are trying to develop legitimacy. >> yeah, it's been incredible to watch this complete collapse of all of the afghan institutions that the united states has spent so much time u putting in place over the past 2...

City, what do you think american viewers and viewers around the world should know about what happens next? >> well, first it's important to recognize this is one of the greatest military collapses that i think exists in history. the fall of the afghan army, the fall of afghanistan, the fall of kabul has happened at a speed that is really stunning. and for the most part, the afghan army and police, supposedly 300 to 350,000 strong with extraordinarily sophisticated weaponry provided by the united states, $83 billion spent over 20 years, just all melted away. by contrast, one has to say the sout...

Time to make sure -- yes, they had plans on the books, but they didn't have them to conduct an urgent withdrawal. again, things were changing already on the ground as richard engel has mentioned. >> i want to ask you about what you said a moment ago, this was in fact massively bungled. "new york times" writes if there's a consistent theme, it is the over-estimation of the results of the $83 billion the united states has spent since 2001, and underestimation of the beautiful, wily strategy of the taliban. how do you see that? i mean, do you agree? >> yes, absolutely, we overestimated what we co...