>> exactly. paul: the question i have is why are they so confident that the third party candidate would take votes away from biden as opposed to trump in. >> well, they see the weakness of joe biden, and they are afraid that given that weakness if it's a manchin or another democrat, it will take, in their views, certainly votes away from the incumbent, joe biden. and they also are are of the view that competition when it's trump and biden works against them, and democrats -- and you've seen it, i've seen it -- they accept frequently, particularly the left, a cancel culture that if they disagre...