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Other bad pardons presidents have made in the past. it was almost as if he was saying look, there's a hall of shame out there for presidential pardons, and this one is in a long line of controversial presidential pardons. is that a good defense? >> it's not a good defense, but it's a fact. if you're pardoning something, they're in a criminal jam-up or they've been in jail. we saw president obama free a terrorist who was responsible for defendants and hundreds of bombings. >> you're doing it, too. >> absolutely. listen, pardons are, by their very nature, controversial. i think that president tr...

At an 85-year-old man who had never been in trouble in his life who he felt and a lot of people in our camp feel was railroaded by a weaponized department of justice. and at 85 years old, convicted of a misdemeanor and what we thought was an unfair trial. he should have been in front of a jury to begin with. they were trying to put him behind bars. and i think the president in a lot of ways had compassion for joe arpaio, the kind of compassion a lot of people agree with. >> if it was just about the age, he could have commuted the sentence, which is different than a pardon. saying that wiping t...