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Soon as possible, 24/7. i believe it's been disgraceful to see, you know, our coast guard literally on soup lines and going to soup kitchens just to get food. i think it's disgraceful to see that our corrections officers, federal corrections officers -- maria: well, i think everybody feels that way. >> well, if we all feel this way, i mean, if we really do feel this way, this is not just some amorphous, philosophical issue, these are real people that can't pay real bills, then we've got to get this done. that doesn't mean -- maria: have you spoken with speaker moses about this. >> small amou...

To get food. i think it's disgraceful to see that our corrections officers, federal corrections officers -- maria: well, i think everybody feels that way. >> well, if we all feel this way, i mean, if we really do feel this way, this is not just some amorphous, philosophical issue, these are real people that can't pay real bills, then we've got to get this done. that doesn't mean -- maria: have you spoken with speaker moses about this. >> small amount, yes, i have. and i've spoked about -- spoken about it in caucus, through both of those caucuses you've mentioned -- maria: if i guess what i'm a...

>> i like the story around steel thing. >> this is pretty good. >> it's amorphous, right? so san francisco is 884,000 people. miami is about 450,000 people. roughly we're talking two miles or san francisco are working without pay. unclear if they'll get back pay. put that in perspective. happening in san francisco, no one was getting paid, people would do something about it. >> i want to talk more about the wall, michael. sarah sanders did an interview where she did say we're the only country that values life. it makes me think about those two migrant children who were ki killed. if she's talk...

When is the last time a religious service of any great number in attendance was held at saint basil's cathedral? i think it's been quite a long time. it's a museum now. >> it certainly has been a long time but that's a problem with these postal regulations, they are so broad in prohibiting anything religious at all that they would encompass something such as the cathedral in the background, even though it's not being used as a cathedral anymore. >> laura: under what constitutional or statutory norm are they operating? this is not establishing a state religion, even by by the most amorphous or ...

Donald trump and you're going to see that theme a lot. >> you know, gabe, i'm curious to see again how long the fox news establishment, roger aisles w -- roger ales was very good at that. rush limbaugh it was the same thing. they're coming after you, they, that amorphous they is out to get you. fox news did hire some people who still want to be journalists, right? >> yeah. >> chris wallace who often is in that pivot position of being doing conservative tv but also doing journalism, here he is again. i wonder how long this kind of thing can survive. take a listen. >> michael flynn, president sa...