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Bottom. so i think if we look at the fact that the president is still focused on andrew mccabe, we can't discount the idea that this is something that he actually wants us to be talking about. >> aaron, that's really -- that's an interesting way of looking at it. to your point, he is getting air support on the deep state argument on fox news all evening, every evening. shannon, from time to time i ask you about the business of this presidency from the point of view of citizens and taxpayers. how much of the business of the west wing is proceeding? what can we expect out of this white house? >>...

It's not about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, or about these press aides wanting to talk to these people, explaining these things in oftentimes misleading ways. i think that goes through james mattis' firing. the president said he fired me and mattis resigned. we also saw it around the comey firing, where the white house blows anything out of proportion. >> on this broadcast, any meeting in your family office that you have to have a russian translator present for should maybe set off alarm bells. anyway, shannon and aaron have agreed to stick around a bit longer. com...

Other lawyers, other press aides, other staffers trying to put together a statement. that's just my little window into this level of confusion just that one night that was going on around this flynn firing. there were days of that. as we know from sally yates' testimony about going to don mccann and mcgahn trying to figure out what the situation was. i know people in the white house were trying to figure out, had flynn just remembered, the vice president was brought in and the vice president was giving false statements, bud he had misled the vice president and that was the reason he had been f...

Andrew mccabe is saying. i'm not sure that's actually the case in this situation. if you look at the two things that andrew mccabe has really confirmed, the two big things he's confirmed in recent days, one is the idea that there were officials within the justice department who were talking about the 25th amendment. the other is the opening of the counterintelligence investigation that had been reported via anonymous sources a few weeks ago. i think both of those actually feed into what the president wants the talk to be about, which is the idea that there are forces within the government that...

The morning after michael flynn left the white house, we had kellyanne conway come out and say that he had resigned voluntarily. it was only that afternoon, a day later after michael flynn had left the white house, that sean spicer said the things you played in the video, that it was actually something that the president requested. i think what we're learning as we learn more about these episodes is that it's not just about chaos in the white house. it's not about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, or about these press aides wanting to talk to these people, explaining thes...