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Politically for the republicans if they caved on this. look where this started. it started in august 2011 when boehner made a deal with the president. the deal was we'll let you borrow $2.4 trillion more if you let us have some spending cuts. obama says i will gladly increase the debt now for some spending cuts tomorrow. as of this day, wimpy hasn't cut spending. >> susan, downed what the end game is? >> the white house had had a good message. i don't understand why they've gotten to this -- i'm trying to think of a non-vulgar way to say this -- but this dispute about whose idea was it. as you...