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>> you know, there is an old saying in washington. it's not the crime, but the cover-up. so we already knew that the special counsel was looking into trump's handling of classified documents. we now know that they were looking to how they handled security footage in mar-a-lago, and whether it was tampered, whether was withheld. so that is a sign that the investigators are strongly looking into possible obstruction of justice charges. and then our fabulous colleagues, paul reid, and caitlin polantz found out that there are two senior trump level organization employees who are gonna go...

Ceiling, i mean, there's just a whole host of things that could really get wrapped up and that debate. whether it's energy policy, border security, i mean there's a whole list of things they want to tackle. >> >> we talk about two different things. you just think biden thinks. the trump issues at mar-a-lago and now the debt ceiling and immigration. from your framework of how your covering, and looking towards 2024. well the normal campaign issues of the economy and immigration be the focus? or what these abnormal indictments be more the focus of 2024? the other sense right now? >> the conventi...

Sophia Bush shared her husband's abortion story amid the overturn of Roe v. Wade.

Abortion matters. so you can expect demonstrations around the country. back to you. >> and joe, justice thomas was one of the five in the majority on this draft that would overturn roe versus wade. is he now claiming that the supreme court is being bullied? >> reporter: well, that's what he said. this was at the 11th judicial conference in atlanta. he said institutions of government should not be bullied into giving what some see as a preferred outcome. clearly a reference to what has gone on here since the leak of that draft. back to you. >> all right, joe johns, good to see you this morning....