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Reagan would of course to go ton to lead 50 states. so the question of how much power the federal government should have over the states would be more important than a casual viewer in 1967 might have imageled. let's rejoin william f. buckley. >> let me ask you this, since a lot of people routinely cynical about the whole notion of state's rights, it has been very widely contended for instance most recently by senator tidings of maryland that americans like to talk about states rights because there is still a certain glamor to the argument and a certain scientific exact tude of the whole notio...

Do you think that ten, 20-years from now the office of governor will be almost like the office of the left governor of the providences in canada pretty much a ritual office a handshaking office? >> well they are going to have a fight with some governors. i don't think there's any question you and i are well aware in washington in higher circles while not too owl spo n outspoken about it they nurse the idea that we have out warned this system of ours. they are going to find they are just as wrong about that as some of the bleeding hearts have been wi about the idea we can do away with nationali...

You right now, i won't ask for a un man mouse vote, i will just set will for four more people of my party in the assembly and one more at the senate. >> it is a problem isn't it? the question is, have we reached the point where there is a sufficient popular frustration with the incapacity of the states in the universe as a result of all of the obstacles thrown in their way by the federal government that there will be a national protest which will be reflective in harmonious legislation by congress and a certain feeling of self inhibition exerciseed by the supreme court? they should being execu...

To pass an edict there can't be any more crimes and violence. >> and i am sure he might be very tempted to oblige you. the question i am raising is, haven't we seen an evolution the whole notion of post constitutional rights are so that you see for instance the supreme court saying, as it recently did, that a reunion has the right to fine those of its members who don't follow its orders when they are told to observe a picket line. it comes a federal constitution guarantee question. can't we simply project that in the course of the next 10, 15, 20, 40 or 50 years almost every life that you now ...

Force the people to listen. i don't think we do have that right. >> sometimes they come close to that implication. i agree. there again when you ran for governor you backed an anti pornography law. the chances of you getting one too a through are slight on such matters which again brings out the question can somebody be a successful governor. we walk into situations where theoretically you might be elected unanimous and having been elected unanimously you might on a program of let's say 10 reforms you might find all ten of them are forbidden either practically or legally. legally because supre...