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In accordance with ako, as the organization, the international aviation organization, according with their regulations and it had been checked and rechecked. there is one small point conveniently overlooked by those that want to put the lithium ion battery argument forward. if they had been an incident, there would have been a warning. if there had been a warning, the pilots might have got a may day out. if there had been a full-scale fire, it would have been reported on the acars system and we might well have known about it. the lithium eye on battery theory is there, it will remain there. >>...

Fire suppression, a lot of safety mechanisms that go into those 191 issues that did mitigate the issue. so to think that tying this into this aircraft now -- the ones that have the accidents that have been caused by battery fires or any kind of cargo fire have resulted in significant damage to the aircraft, structural damage to the aircraft and subsequent crash. so -- and i don't suspect that here. obviously, because we have pings from that aircraft from hours and hours later. had there been a fire in the cargo hold, we also would have gotten notification through the acars system that would ha...

>> watching and waiting for that. let me follow-up for this. there two calls. no the to confusion everyone, but call reportedly made by the pilot before take off. eight minutes before take off from his cell phone. second report, there was a call a patiently made six minutes before all right good night when they were into the air and that happened at 1:19 in the morning. delivered by the cockpit. do we know more about that phone call? >> we don't. within this telegraph article that tells us they will be releasing the full transcript, they mentioned the call that happened six minutes before. it ...

One of those systems is the so-called acars system that we've heard a lot about in this investigation that allows the system to communicate with ground control. that was shut down on this aircraft. but you have managed -- your satellites managed to continue to communicate with the airplane anyway, how? >> okay, in very simple terms just like a cellular phone system if you imagine the satellite network, whoever you choose, the box on the plane, the classic arrow product from inmarsat, is the project, and then there are various apps that may include different text messaging of different sorts th...

Have run it on the simulator ostensibly to then do it while they're behind the -- in the cockpit. i think that investigators have loo-to-look at the human beings in this case. again, you either have physical evidence or you're going to have to find somebody who knows something that occurred. that's the only way to get to the bottom of what happened in this disappearance. >> shawn, yesterday we had a guest on the show who's a former fbi, very interesting theory that she laid out for us. roll that a little bit. >> this whole idea of switching off the acars system, it almost seems as if somebody ...