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State of new york. it's just not actuarily accurate. >> this is a national issue, and actually it is happening throughout the nation. you're right, there are -- >> but the congressional budget -- but the congressional budget office and the academy of actuaries both say that it is not in a death spiral. it is not collapsing. they both say that. maybe the actuaries are wrong and the cbo is wrong, but you'd have to cite some other data to suggest they're wrong. >> well, people's policies this year are going to go up 25%. and barack obama was a very good politician. he put all the bad stuff in the...

Of american counties. this is a problem. and the actuaries of the insurance companies are telling us it's just going to get worse. so, it's really important that we do something to fix this problem, and that's going to take us to continue to work to get consensus. and i'm not going to put a timeline on it because i just want to make sure we get this done right. thank you very much, everybody. appreciate it. >> all right, you're listening right there to house speaker paul ryan and his weekly press conference. i understand the president's frustration. that's one headline from this. let's discuss...

>> i want to ask you what you make of this line in the cbo report because i've heard in from you and your colleagues that's collapsing. it said "the non-group market would probably be stable in either areas, the american association of actuaries says there is no death spiral." it seems strange to me that you and your colleagues reiterate that obamacare is imploding more to a death spiral when the experts tasked we value waiting that say that is not true. >> on election day, on november 8, the voters chose republicans to lead based on a commitment and promise that we would repeal and replace ob...

About the actual state of the insurance market which isn't something that voters determine one way or the other. that's a fact about how those markets are functioning and the association of actuaries and the congressional budget office agree that it's not imploding so i'm wondering why you and your colleagues say it is. >> chris, what is clear is that the replacement proposal that we are debating in the congress today with some significant changes that we can make that we discussed in the oval office this morning could result in a health care program in this country that will work for far more...

From you and your colleagues that's collapsing. it said "the non-group market would probably be stable in either areas, the american association of actuaries says there is no death spiral." it seems strange to me that you and your colleagues reiterate that obamacare is imploding more to a death spiral when the experts tasked we value waiting that say that is not true. >> on election day, on november 8, the voters chose republicans to lead based on a commitment and promise that we would repeal and replace obamacare. >> that may be true, congressman, but that's not responsive to the -- it's a qu...