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Independent investigation into these border patrol agents when the president says "those people will pay" and you say the images horrified us? >> jake, i think it's quite clear that what the images suggest horrified the american public. that is quite different than learning what actually happened, determining the facts, and the fact determinations will be made in an independent investigation by the office for professional responsibility, and the facts that are adduced, the facts that are determined will drive the outcome, nothing less and nothing more. what those images -- >> some of the descr...

Determining the facts, and the fact determinations will be made in an independent investigation by the office for professional responsibility, and the facts that are adduced, the facts that are determined will drive the outcome, nothing less and nothing more. what those images z-- >> some of the descriptions, sorry. >> what those images suggest, what they appeared to portray was horrifying, and that i think deserves attention. that is quite different than fact determinations and i will tell you, i served as a federal prosecutor for 12 years, and we conducted independent investigations despite ...

Bribery has occurred. that's why we don't ask you those questions. for one thing, you're also not aware of all the other facts that have been adduced during the investigation. with that, i yield back to mr. carson. >> thank you, chairman. thank you both for your service. colonel vindman, you were in a july 10th white house meeting in ambassador bolton's office, is that correct, sir? >> i'm sorry, can you say that again? >> you were in a july 10th white house meeting with ambassador bolton? >> correct. >> in that meeting the ukrainians asked about when they could get their oval office meeting, ...

From your state is saying about that. >> i think they should look at everything. look at it all. i think it will be good for the president, good for the country to have a full and credible investigation so no one can ever say you didn't look at this or didn't look at that. >> do you agree with him? >> i absolutely do. we need to good -- we need to stop the confusion and disinformation campaign that surrounding comey and this russia business. i mean it's almost like a telenovella, you can't make this stuff up. we need all of the information on the table. so far the president is not being invest...