Thi ukraine, for decades, centuries was the green basket of russia. has such fertile land that separates the soviet union. in fact, in the 1930s, russia actually starved millions of ukrainians in something called the whole adele maher. putin doesn't want -- i've been to ukraine several times. people in ukraine are westerners, their europeans. they don't consider themselves russians. although, they do speak russian. their economy could be very vital. russia always feels most safe when they're rush -- our weakest and poorest. that is what putin is trying to accomplish. >> the dean of the school ...