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How worried are you that his campaign and his candidacy may be in trouble? and what do you think of all criticism that has gone his way with regard to, oh, you don't speak enough from your heart, you're not detailed enough, you're not this enough, you're not that enough? there's been a lot of rhetorical advice for him. what do you think of it? >> well, when you know him pe personally, his family and that role, i think a lot of that goes away, as well. people say he's not passionate about anything. baloney, look at his family, his faith, the way he's governed, the way he's lived his life. and w...

The world on issues such as stem cell research and now perhaps contraception that they would effectively if not necessarily intentionally relegate the social justice work and teaching to second-class status. >> so a lot to talk about there. and i would love, love to get into that. and what we around the table call matthew 25 christians in a minute. first, let's go to back to friday. you were along with sister carol and other catholics against the white house's contraception hhs ruling, but you think the president did the right thing and did enough to move beyond this issue. tell us why. >> wel...

Fbi agents at his daughter's wedding, who knows where he would've gone. >> and the black panthers trying to climb over the fence and kidnap him. >> and both time you had people outside the mainstream with ross perot and ron paul. but the main issue. >> by the way -- >> unfair. >> by the way, he said it, not me. >> i love ron paul and ross perot. >> it's unfair, but let me make a point. you had someone who isn't mainstream trying to connect the dots about an overextended foreign policy, a country not willing to deal with the deficit and debt and no one's talking about economic growth. and what ...

By the way, you haven't talked about this lin guy. >> i've talked endlessly about this lin guy. >> never. >> i can't stop talking about this lin guy. >> he's amazing. >> he's amazing. >> didn't he win another game this weekend? >> he won on saturday, they were in minnesota, scored 20 points, he hit the go ahead free throw. >> he's amazing. >> in the span of less than a week he came from nowhere -- when i say nowhere, if he went out on the street and asked 1,000 people, 999 wouldn't have heard of jeremy lin. >> and now everyone wants to go. when was the last time anyone said i've got to get to ...

Budget and -- >> as you always do. >> people avoiding -- >> you keep bringing it up. >> you know what's going to happen, you're going to have the president, he's put his budget out and it's talking past republicans, you've got the democrats in the senate who are going to go another 1,000 days without having the courage to put out a budget. and then you've got the republicans in the house that are going to pass a budget that's going to talk right past the president. and you're going to have these lobbies back and forth and nobody's going to get together. >> and these are core questions. as cram...