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Recordings of the vertical speed indications. now, in there it's very clear that even before the aircraft takes off, even before it leaves the runway, there's three indications, three data points, if you will, that say that the aircraft is climbing at 2,500 feet per minute. well, that's impossible. it's on the air field. it's still on the ground. so these erroneous indications. and they continue. they continue on out. and if i put that right up against the lion air accident, it's the same thing. we see the same kind of indications in that data, that it was erroneous and the pilot was reacting ...

I would put that off. until i know more about what's happening. but i'm going to err on the side of safety. you know me long enough to know that i'm going to do that. but as far as myself i think that would be an acceptable risk to take on myself. but would i put my whole family on the airplane? i don't think so. >> so david, china, indonesia, singapore, and ethiopia have ordered airlines to stop using these planes. should the u.s. do the same thing? >> i believe they should. i do, don. i've looked at the -- and people say it's irresponsible of me to say that. i've gotten a lot of grief for sa...

The runway, there's three indications, three data points, if you will, that say that the aircraft is climbing at 2,500 feet per minute. well, that's impossible. it's on the air field. it's still on the ground. so these erroneous indications. and they continue. they continue on out. and if i put that right up against the lion air accident, it's the same thing. we see the same kind of indications in that data, that it was erroneous and the pilot was reacting to it and having to fight against it. >> david, i'm so glad to have you on. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> r. kelly faces ten counts of a...

Of safety. you know me long enough to know that i'm going to do that. but as far as myself i think that would be an acceptable risk to take on myself. but would i put my whole family on the airplane? i don't think so. >> so david, china, indonesia, singapore, and ethiopia have ordered airlines to stop using these planes. should the u.s. do the same thing? >> i believe they should. i do, don. i've looked at the -- and people say it's irresponsible of me to say that. i've gotten a lot of grief for saying that earlier today. but here's the situation. i looked at the adsb data, the data that comes...