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Know, a whole lot of proceedings that can go on for a very long time, and as we know, the former president is a master at delay, so it is not, you know, whatever is going to happen in this case, whether it is a trial or a settlement, it might be very, very far into the future. >> and then david, if you could, quickly, this defense repeatedly that is used for the former president, and it is, everything is doing it, the wealthy, in new york, the real estate magnates, everyone is doing it. >> there is some truth to it and there is especially truth to it when your name is trump and he had this ver...

>> i think it's kind of a footnote, but because roger stone has spent his entire life making himself into a very colorful character, it's really hard. you can't avoid cutting in to put this piece of breaking news out. he was one of the president's confidants, flashy dresser -- howard: yeah. >> -- self-made dirty trickster -- howard: self-promoter, yeah. >> you can't possibly avoid that, yes. howard: stone's defense described him as an exaggerator when he claimed to be a conduit e between wikileaks and the trump circle. but since he was convicted of lying, the media can't turn around and say, w...

Footnote to that investigation? >> i think it's kind of a footnote, but because roger stone has spent his entire life making himself into a very colorful character, it's really hard. you can't avoid cutting in to put this piece of breaking news out. he was one of the president's confidants, flashy dresser -- howard: yeah. >> -- self-made dirty trickster -- howard: self-promoter, yeah. >> you can't possibly avoid that, yes. howard: stone's defense described him as an exaggerator when he claimed to be a conduit e between wikileaks and the trump circle. but since he was convicted of lying, the me...

The bank came back for more, and remarkably, with the support of its very top executives. it's two of its ceos on different occasions signed of or at least were supportive of these loans and reflected real institutional support for a relationship that several years later would prove the biggest embarrassment of all for deutsche bank. >> so it's a lot of problems for deutsche bank in the way it runs its business for people who observe it. is there a legal issue here? >> well, there are a lot of legal issues here. i mean, think the biggest one for donald trump is what investigators in washington...

Tlaib and of exaggerator because the el cortez don't seem to be sorry not sorry about their comments. and over the weekend, they were equating these anti-semitic comments with islamophobia. so i don't see these individual women or the party at all to be very contrite about anti-semitic statements and that's what bothers me more than the op-ed which is pretty normal. >> i think had she started with this op-ed, wouldn't have had a storm that we had. that said, i think the fact that she talked about she was a refugee herself and being in a permanent state of refugee hood was fair and now you have...